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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:37 am

miltiades wrote:
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miltiades wrote:The UK is actually the 3rd biggest trading partner of Germany, the first being the USA followed by France.
Don't just make statements out of your arse .
'

I said it was the 5th actually. But above I said it was 4th which is slightly incorrect.

British population = 65 million
Germany = 80 million.

Britain is not a small economy. It is a large economy in its own right - one of the biggest in the world.

Grow up please! :roll:

Listen stupid. I never said that Britain is a small economy. You said that the UK is Germany's largest trading partner, I corrected you by telling you that Britain is Germany's third largest after the USA and France.
By the way, it looks as if WE shall be in the EU all of 2019, October 31st won't happen!!
The Clown has been ....demasked !!
At the end of today , Brexit without a deal will be ILLEGAL. A GE might well be on the cards, lover boy will then have to pack up and return to the Circus where he belongs.
" Not a good start Boris!' MP mocks Boris Johnson seconds after humiliating Brexit defeat"


Yes it is because the Brits are probably the biggest buyer of British luxury cars in the EU.

And listen here fuckpot! I never said Britain was Germany's largest partner (probably USA, Japan, and China are much lager) but it is the largest in the EU along with probably France so that is a huge hole for Germany.

And no, it isn't illegal because Parliament enacted Article 50 and that Article means BREXIT whether there is a Deal or no deal.

So pull your head in! :roll:
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:40 am

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Kikapu wrote:MPs just took over the Commons.

BJ got his first ass kicking with many to come, I’m sure. :D


That means an election.

BOJO knew that, and the remainers just played into his hands. :D

Even the EU has abandoned the remainer MPs. EU will not force Britain to extend and avoid a NO DEAL Brexit. First piece of sanity from.]


A lot of no substance and heresay in the above video. The fact remains that, on Wednesday the parliament will vote to legally prevent a no deal Brexit. There is no guarantee that BJ will get the re-election just yet, but a good chance that he will be forced to go on his knees to the EU to beg for an extension on article 50. Slowly but surely BJ is about to become EU’s bitch. He can thank Trump for that! :D



You are forgetting about the vote under the fixed terms act to have another election.

Also, The Holy Ghost teaming up with Saint Lazarus, Nigel Farage! :D


Doesn’t that just means that BJ would need to get 2/3rd of all the MPs to vote for a new election?

He doesn’t have the votes to force a new election on his terms. He has become very distrusted PM in a very short time. Much like his tenure, I’m sure.

Right now new election is not the priority. The MPs want to legalize the no deal Brexit first then go after BJ’s butt in a new election.


You are presuming the Lib democrats and Labor will not support it.

I think you will need to be realistic about going after The Holy Ghost's butt. It is a lot more likely he will have some remoaner butt.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby miltiades » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:14 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:The UK is actually the 3rd biggest trading partner of Germany, the first being the USA followed by France.
Don't just make statements out of your arse .
'

I said it was the 5th actually. But above I said it was 4th which is slightly incorrect.

British population = 65 million
Germany = 80 million.

Britain is not a small economy. It is a large economy in its own right - one of the biggest in the world.

Grow up please! :roll:

Listen stupid. I never said that Britain is a small economy. You said that the UK is Germany's largest trading partner, I corrected you by telling you that Britain is Germany's third largest after the USA and France.
By the way, it looks as if WE shall be in the EU all of 2019, October 31st won't happen!!
The Clown has been ....demasked !!
At the end of today , Brexit without a deal will be ILLEGAL. A GE might well be on the cards, lover boy will then have to pack up and return to the Circus where he belongs.
" Not a good start Boris!' MP mocks Boris Johnson seconds after humiliating Brexit defeat"


Yes it is because the Brits are probably the biggest buyer of British luxury cars in the EU.

And listen here fuckpot! I never said Britain was Germany's largest partner (probably USA, Japan, and China are much lager) but it is the largest in the EU along with probably France so that is a huge hole for Germany.

And no, it isn't illegal because Parliament enacted Article 50 and that Article means BREXIT whether there is a Deal or no deal.

So pull your head in! :roll:

General, today Parliament will vote that without a deal we can not leave Europe. Its a foregone conclusion. The Clown will be defeated and we will nor be coming out on October 31st. Do me a favour, the UK ain't your country, it is mine. Just stick to what tou know best. Fuck all !!
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:26 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:The UK is actually the 3rd biggest trading partner of Germany, the first being the USA followed by France.
Don't just make statements out of your arse .
'

I said it was the 5th actually. But above I said it was 4th which is slightly incorrect.

British population = 65 million
Germany = 80 million.

Britain is not a small economy. It is a large economy in its own right - one of the biggest in the world.

Grow up please! :roll:

Listen stupid. I never said that Britain is a small economy. You said that the UK is Germany's largest trading partner, I corrected you by telling you that Britain is Germany's third largest after the USA and France.
By the way, it looks as if WE shall be in the EU all of 2019, October 31st won't happen!!
The Clown has been ....demasked !!
At the end of today , Brexit without a deal will be ILLEGAL. A GE might well be on the cards, lover boy will then have to pack up and return to the Circus where he belongs.
" Not a good start Boris!' MP mocks Boris Johnson seconds after humiliating Brexit defeat"


Yes it is because the Brits are probably the biggest buyer of British luxury cars in the EU.

And listen here fuckpot! I never said Britain was Germany's largest partner (probably USA, Japan, and China are much lager) but it is the largest in the EU along with probably France so that is a huge hole for Germany.

And no, it isn't illegal because Parliament enacted Article 50 and that Article means BREXIT whether there is a Deal or no deal.

So pull your head in! :roll:

General, today Parliament will vote that without a deal we can not leave Europe. Its a foregone conclusion. The Clown will be defeated and we will nor be coming out on October 31st. Do me a favour, the UK ain't your country, it is mine. Just stick to what tou know best. Fuck all !!


That Bill will need Royal Ascent and BOJO doesn't have to take it to the Queen till after 31st of October.

Blair did that when Britain entered entered the IRAQ2 war with the USA. There was a Bill to prevent British involvement and Blair did not take it to the Queen.

You are still pushing shit uphill because Parliament has its sovereignty given to it by the people and the people had a referendum, and Parliament also passed Article 50.

I really enjoyed the theatrics though. It was a sweet little glimpse of the salt bonanza headed my way. 8)
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:01 am

REVEALED: LORDS PLAN TO BLOCK REMAINER LEGISLATION

Guido can today reveal that pro-Governemnt forces in the House of Lords have a comprehensive, co-ordinated plan to prevent Hilary Benn’s anti-No Deal ‘Surrender Bill’ from becoming law, in the likely event it is passed in the Commons this evening.

The Shadow Leader of the Lords yesterday proposed a Business Motion to change the conventions of the House of Lords preventing the bill being talked out and forcing it to be taken on Thursday and Friday. The motion includes the imposition of mechanisms such as time limits, alien to House of Lords convention. Pro-Government peers, however, have tabled 86 amendments to the Business Motion, each of which require two votes to be heard and dismissed…

The pro-Government plan will see the very motion intended to ease the passage of the Benn Bill become the roadblock to it being passed. Senior Lords sources inform Guido that the time it will take the upper chamber to hear and vote on each amendment, as its rules compel it to do, would take up continuous 24/7 sitting until Saturday. Only after then could the Remainers’ anti-No Deal Bill be put. The Tories are determined to not see the Prime Minister’s hands bound in these negotiations. They have a real chance of talking the bill out in the Lords before the earliest opportunity to prorogue Parliament presents itself on Monday morning…


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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:22 am

Paphitis wrote:
What Government stats are you looking at.

The only Public Service document was Project Yellow Hammer and that depicted the worst case scenario. It was written by EU supporting public servants.

It [predicted that the sky will fall in, chaos will occur and that Britain will even have a shortage of medicine and people will die.

I mean what nonsense! That document was recently debunked and everyone admitted it really doesn't apply or is in any way real.

I want you to provide me with the stats of what is going to happen. Post them here please. Because I want to see their Merlin Fortune Telling abilities.


Question is. Will you read it?? You never read anything...
Regardless maybe someone else will.

https://obr.uk/

Quick Downloads:
Fiscal risks report – July 2019
17th July 2019 – 3 MB


Office for Budget Responsibility
Fiscal risks report Presented to Parliament by the Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury by Command of Her Majesty

Combining the IMF’s baseline and scenario estimates of the cost of Brexit gives a long-run estimated hit to GDP from leaving the EU and then trading under WTO rules of 5.9 per cent (Table 10.5). This compares to the Government’s estimates of between 7.7 and 9.3 per cent (depending on the migration policy assumption used);9 NIESR’s estimate of 5.5 per cent;10 and a joint study by the UK in a Changing Europe and the LSE Centre for Economic Performance’s (LSE) which contains estimates of between 4.7 and 9.9 per cent (depending on whether or not there are additional dynamic effects on productivity).11
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:33 am

EU Exit
Long-term economic analysis
November 2018
Presented to Parliament by the Prime Minister by Command of Her Majesty
November 2018

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... blications

Download this title:
28 November EU Exit: Long-term economic analysis (Command Paper)

Go directly to The combined impact on GDP and GDP per capita is summarised in Table 4.10.


$139 billion cost to the GDP per Capita compared to the 8 billion net cost of being in the EU!
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:48 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
What Government stats are you looking at.

The only Public Service document was Project Yellow Hammer and that depicted the worst case scenario. It was written by EU supporting public servants.

It [predicted that the sky will fall in, chaos will occur and that Britain will even have a shortage of medicine and people will die.

I mean what nonsense! That document was recently debunked and everyone admitted it really doesn't apply or is in any way real.

I want you to provide me with the stats of what is going to happen. Post them here please. Because I want to see their Merlin Fortune Telling abilities.


Question is. Will you read it?? You never read anything...
Regardless maybe someone else will.

https://obr.uk/

Quick Downloads:
Fiscal risks report – July 2019
17th July 2019 – 3 MB


Office for Budget Responsibility
Fiscal risks report Presented to Parliament by the Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury by Command of Her Majesty

Combining the IMF’s baseline and scenario estimates of the cost of Brexit gives a long-run estimated hit to GDP from leaving the EU and then trading under WTO rules of 5.9 per cent (Table 10.5). This compares to the Government’s estimates of between 7.7 and 9.3 per cent (depending on the migration policy assumption used);9 NIESR’s estimate of 5.5 per cent;10 and a joint study by the UK in a Changing Europe and the LSE Centre for Economic Performance’s (LSE) which contains estimates of between 4.7 and 9.9 per cent (depending on whether or not there are additional dynamic effects on productivity).11


you are correct that I don't read these things because how do they know?

But also, you mention this imposition, but you forget about the 39 Billion that will not be paid to the EU immediately and the 10 Billion + 10 Billion in other costs. The EU costs Britain about 20 Billion per year.

This drop in GDP is over a 15 year period. And it may not even come to fruition!

The net cost for being in the EU is more than 8.9 Billion per year. They have not considered the cost of immigration to the NHS and other incidentals.

So in 15 years Britain will save 8.9 x 15 = 133.5 Billion

Plus another 39 Billion

Which equals to 172.5 Billion.

Now let's say there is a GDP output cost of 139 Billion.

This equates to a profit of 33.5 Billion over 15 years. And that is without factoring in other incidentals like the NHS.

I don't provide any basis on these statistics whatsoever. Any potential losses to Britain will not be realized for at least 2 years after BREXIT. But they won't tell you that, and they won't tell you about the other 39 Billion Britain has to pay either.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:01 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
What Government stats are you looking at.

The only Public Service document was Project Yellow Hammer and that depicted the worst case scenario. It was written by EU supporting public servants.

It [predicted that the sky will fall in, chaos will occur and that Britain will even have a shortage of medicine and people will die.

I mean what nonsense! That document was recently debunked and everyone admitted it really doesn't apply or is in any way real.

I want you to provide me with the stats of what is going to happen. Post them here please. Because I want to see their Merlin Fortune Telling abilities.


Question is. Will you read it?? You never read anything...
Regardless maybe someone else will.

https://obr.uk/

Quick Downloads:
Fiscal risks report – July 2019
17th July 2019 – 3 MB


Office for Budget Responsibility
Fiscal risks report Presented to Parliament by the Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury by Command of Her Majesty

Combining the IMF’s baseline and scenario estimates of the cost of Brexit gives a long-run estimated hit to GDP from leaving the EU and then trading under WTO rules of 5.9 per cent (Table 10.5). This compares to the Government’s estimates of between 7.7 and 9.3 per cent (depending on the migration policy assumption used);9 NIESR’s estimate of 5.5 per cent;10 and a joint study by the UK in a Changing Europe and the LSE Centre for Economic Performance’s (LSE) which contains estimates of between 4.7 and 9.9 per cent (depending on whether or not there are additional dynamic effects on productivity).11


you are correct that I don't read these things because how do they know?

But also, you mention this imposition, but you forget about the 39 Billion that will not be paid to the EU immediately and the 10 Billion + 10 Billion per year that Britain pays to the EU. The EU costs Britain about 20 Billion per year.

This drop in GDP is over a 15 year period. And it may not even come to fruition!


They know because they studied this science.
The 39 billion WILL be paid, because it has already been agreed and there was consent concerning UK's liabilities.
It's BOJO who said he won't pay but he forgot the ICJ where he will lose. What would you expect from a clown? Besides he did not think of the bad reputation effect on the UK in trying to negotiate new deals. Who could trust them if they won't honour their current obligations??
Furthermore the drop is per year, for the next 15 years.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:31 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
What Government stats are you looking at.

The only Public Service document was Project Yellow Hammer and that depicted the worst case scenario. It was written by EU supporting public servants.

It [predicted that the sky will fall in, chaos will occur and that Britain will even have a shortage of medicine and people will die.

I mean what nonsense! That document was recently debunked and everyone admitted it really doesn't apply or is in any way real.

I want you to provide me with the stats of what is going to happen. Post them here please. Because I want to see their Merlin Fortune Telling abilities.


Question is. Will you read it?? You never read anything...
Regardless maybe someone else will.

https://obr.uk/

Quick Downloads:
Fiscal risks report – July 2019
17th July 2019 – 3 MB


Office for Budget Responsibility
Fiscal risks report Presented to Parliament by the Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury by Command of Her Majesty

Combining the IMF’s baseline and scenario estimates of the cost of Brexit gives a long-run estimated hit to GDP from leaving the EU and then trading under WTO rules of 5.9 per cent (Table 10.5). This compares to the Government’s estimates of between 7.7 and 9.3 per cent (depending on the migration policy assumption used);9 NIESR’s estimate of 5.5 per cent;10 and a joint study by the UK in a Changing Europe and the LSE Centre for Economic Performance’s (LSE) which contains estimates of between 4.7 and 9.9 per cent (depending on whether or not there are additional dynamic effects on productivity).11


you are correct that I don't read these things because how do they know?

But also, you mention this imposition, but you forget about the 39 Billion that will not be paid to the EU immediately and the 10 Billion + 10 Billion per year that Britain pays to the EU. The EU costs Britain about 20 Billion per year.

This drop in GDP is over a 15 year period. And it may not even come to fruition!


They know because they studied this science.
The 39 billion WILL be paid, because it has already been agreed and there was consent concerning UK's liabilities.
It's BOJO who said he won't pay but he forgot the ICJ where he will lose. What would you expect from a clown? Besides he did not think of the bad reputation effect on the UK in trying to negotiate new deals. Who could trust them if they won't honour their current obligations??
Furthermore the drop is per year, for the next 15 years.


Let me give you the tip Pyro!

There is no such Science. They are guessing and they are taking the worst case scenarios and making a LOT of assumptions in their calculations which will inevitably be incorrect.

And on top of it all, they are one sided because they did not mention the savings of 39 Billion in years 1 and the 8.9 Billion in savings per year for 15 years and other incidentals which are a burden on the taxpayer such as immigrants using NHS.

Listen mate. I am a scientist (aviator) so I am pretty damn ok with Maths and Physics and Meteorology and other things like that. If I could actually study that type of Science, I would give up aviation, go to Wall Street and become a Billionaire by trading the markets for a living. Unfortunately, I don't know any of that and pretty much don't have a clue about it and have to fly for a living and be away from my family a bit. Even those who studied this science and call themselves experts get it wildly wrong.

Just like Meteorologists. If you call yourself a Meteorologist you still can't predict the weather in the future. That is the fact! So many times you read their forecasts, and TAFS, and you arrive at the destination and all hell breaks loose with thunderstorms, icing, low visibility, and you can't get in and are low on fuel because the fools stuffed it up and so on.
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