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Re: China is in a lot of trouble

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:40 pm

..this power of the people would not have been demonstrated otherwise.

Honk Kong, its resilience may just move Chinese Leadership to consider that fear, while a working tool the state can use to control its citizenry is not entirely practical. New thinking is required.

Also, China can no longer consider itself a disadvantaged player on the world scene. It is clear that they have isolated themselves, and unintentionally.

...if it is the people, as opposed to the People, the Leadership cares about, they will reconsider how free expression (read: democracy) works, and why.
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Re: China is in a lot of trouble

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:43 pm

...still not word in the Turkish Press, and nothing more from the MSN, on the files exposed proving Genocide against Muslim believers in China.
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Re: China is in a lot of trouble

Postby Paphitis » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:25 am

repulsewarrior wrote:..this power of the people would not have been demonstrated otherwise.

Honk Kong, its resilience may just move Chinese Leadership to consider that fear, while a working tool the state can use to control its citizenry is not entirely practical. New thinking is required.

Also, China can no longer consider itself a disadvantaged player on the world scene. It is clear that they have isolated themselves, and unintentionally.

...if it is the people, as opposed to the People, the Leadership cares about, they will reconsider how free expression (read: democracy) works, and why.


The power of the people is being demonstrated because Hong Kongers are not happy with Chinese rule and interference.

The Chinese Leadership will NEVER move RW. They are turning into an imperialistic empire flexing their muscle and they will not be like the USA by any means.

China doesn't consider itself to be disadvantaged player. they are causing a lot of issues and problems. This is only the beginning.

Eventually, I predict they will take over Taiwan, despite US support. If China invade Taiwan, I can't see the Americans help defend it and risk a nuclear exchange. I don't think the Americans consider Taiwan important enough to risk the total destruction of the entire planet into a Nuclear Winter.

For Japan, they probably would.

That's the thing with the Americans. They will reason and pick their battles.
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Re: China is in a lot of trouble

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:04 pm

...China, to be the second, or first largest economy in the world, can only survive as a member of this larger world if they have the trust, and respect of those who are their clients. They cannot succeed beyond the short-run as bullies, or autocratic authorities, they will find themselves even more isolated in these circumstances, without the confidence, or support, of those that expect from them Leadership, (just as the world has grown to expect from America (read: Western world) leadership.

...indeed, if they crush Hong Kong, China may keep control of China as it is. But that is nothing more than a short-sighted fear. China must change.
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Re: China is in a lot of trouble

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:37 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...China, to be the second, or first largest economy in the world, can only survive as a member of this larger world if they have the trust, and respect of those who are their clients. They cannot succeed beyond the short-run as bullies, or autocratic authorities, they will find themselves even more isolated in these circumstances, without the confidence, or support, of those that expect from them Leadership, (just as the world has grown to expect from America (read: Western world) leadership.

...indeed, if they crush Hong Kong, China may keep control of China as it is. But that is nothing more than a short-sighted fear. China must change.

i am not so sure about that rw, the amerigi have done well out of that sort of thing.
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