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Postby Robin Hood » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:47 pm

I think we should just sit back and see whether BJ is as good as his word!

It will be 9-12 months before we know which direction he is going in. If it goes the wrong way ........ the damage to the UK will be bad enough to get the people to rise up against him and The Tories, and then the next election could very well swing even further the other way.

Corbyn cost Labour the election because he wanted another referendum, without realising this WAS the 2nd referendum! I also think he was subject to the same political anti-Semitic and pro-Russia propaganda overload that appears to be the norm in so called democracies these days. No real proof needed ..... accusation is enough. :x

Time will tell! :roll:
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:57 pm

Robin Hood wrote:I think we should just sit back and see whether BJ is as good as his word!

It will be 9-12 months before we know which direction he is going in. If it goes the wrong way ........ the damage to the UK will be bad enough to get the people to rise up against him and The Tories, and then the next election could very well swing even further the other way.

Corbyn cost Labour the election because he wanted another referendum, without realising this WAS the 2nd referendum! I also think he was subject to the same political anti-Semitic and pro-Russia propaganda overload that appears to be the norm in so called democracies these days. No real proof needed ..... accusation is enough. :x

Time will tell! :roll:


Corbyn’s past activities are a matter of open record. When he moved from 37 year fire-brand backbench “rebel” to leader of HMO (Milliband’s rule changes) they of course became the subject of wider scrutiny. He was clearly electoral arsenic and the people who knew him best - Labour MPs - voted to get rid of him 172/40. They were right, too. He didn’t take Labour to its worst electoral performance in 85 years due to something like antisemitism but because he was clearly the most inappropriate candidate for leader of the UK in our lifetime. Among other things.

“Pro-Russia propaganda”? Well, you should know! :wink:
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:36 am

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Well well well, what do you know. I had no idea who this person Richard Murphy is, and yet it matches to what I wrote. I thank you “Cyprusgrump” for highlighting it. It makes total sense that Brexiteers are about 13% less than those who did not vote for the Tories who run on the “Get Brexit Done” platform. This was not just every election. This was an election to vote for Brexit or not. If the Tories were not cowards and felt secure they can win another referendum on Brexit, they should have gone for it.

Never mind, because any new government in the future other than the Tories, there will be a new referendum proposed to rejoin the EU, because at the moment the majority is to remain as this election shows. Not sure Scotland and Northern Ireland is going to wait that long to rejoin the EU however, as they would want to get the fuck out of the Union as quickly as possible.



The Real World is savage eh Kikapu...? :lol: :lol: :lol:

How terrible it is that people don't vote like you in fair democratic elections! :cry:

I've been laughing my head off today, it is somewhat better than after the Brexit vote... There are so many fantastic stores and quotes but I think I can sum them up thus...

The entire left + Kikapu, Bordo, Milti, etc. wrote:Not fair! Waaaah, Waaaah, Waaaah!

I am beginning to think that Multi is correct about your IQ being in the toilet. :D

Who ever said I do not agree with the Democratic processes or anyone is disputing Tories victory? :roll:

The question is that Brexit supporters are less than remainers, because Brexit supporters are represented by the Tories, and eventhough the Tories won the election, they have only received 43.6% of the total voters. If and when there is another referendum on the EU in the future, remain vote will be more again, even when Scotland has long left the Union.


Sorry but not all BREXIT supporters voted. many of them being Traditional Labour voters couldn't bring themselves to vote Torie, and they couldn't vote for Corbyn so they did what Milti did and didn't vote altogether.

Nigel Farage even maintained he would not vote - I don't know if he did but he kept saying he wouldn't get out of bed because he is suspicious of Boris but had to accept Boris at the same time for BREXIT's sake.

Also, some Brexiteers voted for Corbyn as they are traditional Labour voters and were concerned about other issues as being more important, like the NHS.

The Tories did not attract the entire BREXITEER population.

In addition to this, some Traditional Torie voters who are pro remain did not vote Torie and voted for liberal Democrat instead along with some former Torie rebels. Luckily, the Tories did attract many more Traditional Labour voters and still romped it in.
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:41 am

Kikapu wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Well well well, what do you know. I had no idea who this person Richard Murphy is, and yet it matches to what I wrote. I thank you “Cyprusgrump” for highlighting it. It makes total sense that Brexiteers are about 13% less than those who did not vote for the Tories who run on the “Get Brexit Done” platform. This was not just every election. This was an election to vote for Brexit or not. If the Tories were not cowards and felt secure they can win another referendum on Brexit, they should have gone for it.

Never mind, because any new government in the future other than the Tories, there will be a new referendum proposed to rejoin the EU, because at the moment the majority is to remain as this election shows. Not sure Scotland and Northern Ireland is going to wait that long to rejoin the EU however, as they would want to get the fuck out of the Union as quickly as possible.



The Real World is savage eh Kikapu...? :lol: :lol: :lol:

How terrible it is that people don't vote like you in fair democratic elections! :cry:

I've been laughing my head off today, it is somewhat better than after the Brexit vote... There are so many fantastic stores and quotes but I think I can sum them up thus...

The entire left + Kikapu, Bordo, Milti, etc. wrote:Not fair! Waaaah, Waaaah, Waaaah!

I am beginning to think that Multi is correct about your IQ being in the toilet. :D

Who ever said I do not agree with the Democratic processes or anyone is disputing Tories victory? :roll:

The question is that Brexit supporters are less than remainers, because Brexit supporters are represented by the Tories, and eventhough the Tories won the election, they have only received 43.6% of the total voters. If and when there is another referendum on the EU in the future, remain vote will be more again, even when Scotland has long left the Union.



And Trump didn't win 'the popular vote'... :lol:

You lost, Brexit won (three times! :lol: )... :wink:

Get over it, have some dignity FFS and get on with your life... :lol:

The world has moved on now... You should try and do so too...


You are the one who Is dragging this FFS!

Trump and Bush jr. both did not win the popular vote in recent elections. In the US system, one doesn’t need to for them to become a president. It appears, one doesn’t need to win the majority vote in the UK either. “Democracy” comes in different forms. The party which gets the majority vote doesn’t always win the election. It all depends how the voting system is “rigged” up!

Yes, Tories/Brexit won with the minority popular vote in the recent election and the majority non Brexiteers lost despite having the most popular votes!

Life goes on until the next election/referendum.

In the meantime, I will support Scotland and Northern Ireland to reach their own destiny outside the Union.....Democratically!


You don't need to win the popular vote in Australia either.

I think the British system is fantastic actually. In Australia we have a preferential system which is slightly different and I don't like it as much as the UK system. I prefer the first past the post.

The reason why is because it takes away all the backroom wheeling and dealing between parties.

I believe that as a result the Australian System is open to corruption and manipulation, whereas the UK isn't.

Be careful what you wish for Brits.
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:44 am

Robin Hood wrote:I think we should just sit back and see whether BJ is as good as his word!

It will be 9-12 months before we know which direction he is going in. If it goes the wrong way ........ the damage to the UK will be bad enough to get the people to rise up against him and The Tories, and then the next election could very well swing even further the other way.

Corbyn cost Labour the election because he wanted another referendum, without realising this WAS the 2nd referendum! I also think he was subject to the same political anti-Semitic and pro-Russia propaganda overload that appears to be the norm in so called democracies these days. No real proof needed ..... accusation is enough. :x

Time will tell! :roll:


You already know what direction he is taking.

BREXIT on 31st of January then negotiate the future relationship with the EU.

40 new hospitals. 20,000 more police and 40,000 more nurses.

Plus extra investment into the NHS.
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:52 am

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:I think we should just sit back and see whether BJ is as good as his word!

It will be 9-12 months before we know which direction he is going in. If it goes the wrong way ........ the damage to the UK will be bad enough to get the people to rise up against him and The Tories, and then the next election could very well swing even further the other way.

Corbyn cost Labour the election because he wanted another referendum, without realising this WAS the 2nd referendum! I also think he was subject to the same political anti-Semitic and pro-Russia propaganda overload that appears to be the norm in so called democracies these days. No real proof needed ..... accusation is enough. :x

Time will tell! :roll:


Corbyn’s past activities are a matter of open record. When he moved from 37 year fire-brand backbench “rebel” to leader of HMO (Milliband’s rule changes) they of course became the subject of wider scrutiny. He was clearly electoral arsenic and the people who knew him best - Labour MPs - voted to get rid of him 172/40. They were right, too. He didn’t take Labour to its worst electoral performance in 85 years due to something like antisemitism but because he was clearly the most inappropriate candidate for leader of the UK in our lifetime. Among other things.

“Pro-Russia propaganda”? Well, you should know! :wink:


Labour is now in a death spiral.

From what I have seen, McDonald hasn't learnt and Labour will maintain its current trajectory with Momentum towards an ideologogy most people can't support.

They won't get back in for at least 40 years the way they are going.

In fact I believe that after the BREXIT dust settles, the Liberal democrats will replace Labour as the second party.

More and more Traditional Labour voters will abandon Labour and will be looking for a new party. Some went to Tories but I doubt the Tories will maintain these votes forever so once BREXIT ceases to be an issue I think the new home will be Liberal Democrats.

Labour MPs actually came out and said that Traditional Labour voters who voted Tories in the Midlands and North East were STUPID. I would love to ask them if they thought these voters were stupid when they voted for labour all their lives. Maybe they did, which is a real slap in the face towards voters in general.

Bye bye Corbynistas. You are the most deplorable human beings. A bunch of deplorables! Unfit and unworthy to govern so piss off to Venezuela or something! :roll:
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:03 pm

Paphitis:
Bye bye Corbynistas. You are the most deplorable human beings. A bunch of deplorables! Unfit and unworthy to govern so piss off to Venezuela or something!

For someone whose whole life has benefitted from the basic principals of Socialism that got it all started, why do you have such a down on others enjoying the same or similar benefits that you did? :roll:
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