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Re: the war against Libya

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:09 pm

Beside Trump, what will Biden do if he is President, if and when this becomes an open conflict, as war? America will have to choose a side, in effect, the "Brotherhood", or the Russians.

...will they call Haftar a Freedom fighter since he has the voting public's support, or will they continue to deny that the Libyan Government's Executive is a political extension of a terrorist organisation, having UN recognition even as it is.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Maximus » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:39 pm

Biden wont get elected as president of the US,

His supporter base and some members of the party are mainly totalitarian radical leftists tearing up the country.

They will have to stoop as low as rigging the election to come to power and finally get rid of trump. this is what they have been trying to do for these past four years.

The moderates have started to wake up and are moving center right.

I cant imagine a former trump support going to the left under the current political turmoil.

Unfortunately for some, its going to be another term for Trump.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Kikapu » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:29 pm

Maximus wrote:Biden wont get elected as president of the US,

His supporter base and some members of the party are mainly totalitarian radical leftists tearing up the country.

They will have to stoop as low as rigging the election to come to power and finally get rid of trump. this is what they have been trying to do for these past four years.

The moderates have started to wake up and are moving center right.

I cant imagine a former trump support going to the left under the current political turmoil.

Unfortunately for some, its going to be another term for Trump.


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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Paphitis » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:35 pm

Maximus wrote:Biden wont get elected as president of the US,

His supporter base and some members of the party are mainly totalitarian radical leftists tearing up the country.

They will have to stoop as low as rigging the election to come to power and finally get rid of trump. this is what they have been trying to do for these past four years.

The moderates have started to wake up and are moving center right.

I cant imagine a former trump support going to there ARF left under the current political turmoil.

Unfortunately for some, its going to be another term for Trump.


And fortunately for the most who are fed up with the radical left and all the mayhem, riots, a skulduggery they are causing.

I’m looking forward to the outbursts of emotion from the radical lefties, the crocodile tears, the weeping and meltdowns from the Hollywood elites.

Unfortunately though, they will cause riots for days after the American people exercise their democratic right. That’s just what the radical imbecilic lunatics do.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:51 am

...an update,

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... hagha.html

Besides, many in Tripoli have come to believe that too many concessions have been given to Turkey, while its military support has fallen short of securing control of all of Libya. Turkey's Syrian mercenaries are becoming another irritant.

Another move that irked Ankara after the cease-fire call was Sarraj’s acceptance of French President Emmanuel Macron’s invitation to visit Paris.

To top it all, street protests erupted against the Tripoli government.


...interesting read.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:25 pm

https://www.yourvalley.net/stories/us-t ... bya,184598

...an article on the American perspective; my comment,

Looking deeper, I have to ask myself which side will America choose when it comes to it; the Brotherhood or Russia, who would America rather be shaking hands with, here?

This is the question, with Libya.

...if America stands with the Libyan People they stand with the very Leadership labelled, "terrorists", which France, Russia, Egypt, and the UAE support. If America supports the Executive, that which is sanctioned by the UN as the Libyan Government, it is with the Islamists; that if we remember not so long ago were burning those alive, not "them", in cages for punishment.

There is another way, one which provides Peace to all the Eastern Mediterranean, one which demonstrates a commitment to the values which make Universal Principals so important and so vital to our own betterment as Individuals, and as Persons.

Let us not forget who has disrupted every neighbour's internal strife with a weaponisation of the issues: Turkey. In affect, what is the Problem is much bigger than its origins in Cyprus; what is "Turkishness" is still a problem today, expanding, and which is now dividing Turkey herself.

Indeed, the Treaty of Lausanne in Erdogan's mind has been tossed out the window; he seeks more than a Turkey, or, Freedom (and Liberty) for its People. It is his Caliphate in Istanbul which moves closer, and he has two years to Turkey's Centennial to make of it this Legacy.

What of it, something better? For Greece, Cyprus, the Libyan People, and all the rest of Turkey's neighbours from which he has left himself isolated, and threatened with force for a reason.

Will he get everything he has dreamed of, because there is no "one" to oppose him?

Indeed there are issues where America and Russia should find themselves on the same side.

...solidarity, as a Human Race; that which "Turkishness" questions: "our" answer depends on us.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Maximus » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 pm

Apparently, the mandate of the GNA has ended along with its legitimacy.

The GNA still operates under an international cover of legitimacy despite the expiration of the Skhirat agreement from which it emanated three years ago. The term of the Sarraj government ended in principle on December 17, 2017, with a possible extension of one year. That extension provision was not invoked but the international community has nonetheless maintained its endorsement of the Islamist-dominated government until today, three years after the end of the GNA's mandate.

The international community overlooked these gaps from the start and seemed to be in a hurry to impose a new reality in Libya that would hand power to the Islamists despite them having been rejected in the ballot box in June 2014 legislative elections.

https://thearabweekly.com/egypt-challen ... on-mandate


Another fck up by the UN?

Maybe this is why Sarraj feared a coup, and probably why the country is still in a civil war,

They are being propped up by Turkey but their agreements, especially the EEZ agreement that they signed is anything but legitimate. The parliament didnt ratify it and rubbished it. Its the most inconceivable EEZ delimitation imaginable.

What Libyans need to do is cease fire and run democratic elections to elect a government.

But, it seems Islamists from the Muslim brotherhood dont agree with that and prefer to kill their Muslim brothers instead.

And to me, its seems like the west is quite fond of Islamists. :roll:
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:19 pm

...Turkey's hold on Libya hangs on the validity of a single piece of paper signed by Sarraj; he has no intention to hang on to power, or to be more than an interim leader.

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... urkey.html
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Maximus » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:25 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...Turkey's hold on Libya hangs on the validity of a single piece of paper signed by Sarraj; he has no intention to hang on to power, or to be more than an interim leader.

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... urkey.html


The stitching is fraying at the wayside, so flimsy that it is all falling apart.

Endorgan's world is about to cave in on him and he will take the whole country down with him.
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Re: the war against Libya

Postby Kikapu » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:20 pm

Maximus wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...Turkey's hold on Libya hangs on the validity of a single piece of paper signed by Sarraj; he has no intention to hang on to power, or to be more than an interim leader.

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... urkey.html


The stitching is fraying at the wayside, so flimsy that it is all falling apart.

Endorgan's world is about to cave in on him and he will take the whole country down with him.


The document signed by Sarraj with Erdogan on the delineation lines in the Med between Turkey and Libya was not only illegal, but also incomplete, since the Libyan Parliament never ratified the deal. I know important details such as International Law is meaningless to Turkey who does not obey the Rule of Law, but means a great deal to others.

Sarraj has seen the wave of Mediterranean countries ALL lining up against Turkey's illegal actions in trying to claim others EEZ, so perhaps he is trying to prevent Libya becoming ostracized much like Turkey and allow Libya to normalize relationship with Greece again so to agree on their EEZ boundaries.

Slowly Erdogan's "Ottoman Empire" is starting to crumble before it got off the ground. :D
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