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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Lordo » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:06 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...'we' were/are not told the truth (some good examples Lordo), and so it boils down to values; 'our' choices.

...''north'' and ''south'' appear to be the same in that regard (constructing Truth to suit "Them"), and why i suggest that actually Cypriots do not have representation as Cypriots, why they must demonstrate for this change themselves.

Make no mistake, those of 'us' against ''This'' (generally but in Cyprus in particular) have the power to act...

...at the polls let's not forget as voters 'we' are not few.

...and if Cypriots decided to eat souvla together on their beach, if they marched together on their streets, who would be against it?

It is not that we are not told the truth, it is how these bastards make up stories and then attack the other side calling them traitors. This is how they won the vote in 2004. Even the EU observers were disgusted at how the media and the politicians against and their supporters treated the Anan supporters.

No RW, the exact same tactic was tried in the north in 2004 but Talat stood tall and they lost that vote. Some friends of mine who happened to be Anan plan supporters applied for grant from the EU when it was decided that EU would support building work and immediately they were accused of being traitors for accepting the grant money as a bribe to support Anan plan. It is not the same on both sides. I grant you, Turkey does meddle in the vote in the north and bribe people but I firmly believe that if those who want peace believed that GCs were serious about peace they would not fall prey to such tactics. It is because they believe nothing will come out of the talks, so they voted for Tatar. Just in the same way that Labour supporters decided not to vote for Corbyn because he was a millionaire so they voted for the inbred BoZo who was a compulsive liar and a baffoon and far richer too.

Such is life.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Lordo » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:15 am

Here is the full version.

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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Lordo » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:24 am

I only wish I can understand exactly what is being said.

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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:58 pm

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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:50 am

https://lgcnews.com/we-can-change-statu ... prus-nami/

...dialog, another approach to its need.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:51 pm

An interesting fact came out of the book. When Akinci won the election, Drousiotis was invited to meet him and Akinci had asked him about the Americans and what effect they are having on the talks. Drousiotis advised Akinci that it is not the Americans who he needs to worry about. Sure they want a solution that suits them but they do want a solution. Where as he should be more aware of the effect Russia has in the talks. The Russians are controlling the GC and Greek establishment like a puppets on a glove. The difference is that id does not suit the Russians to have peace in Cyprus. They like things as they are as it is causing problems between Greece and Turkey which means the NATO's Southern flank is in conflict and that's the way they like it.

It seems Akinci did not register the danger that was waiting for him heading to Crans-Montana.

Interestingly it has also divulged that back in 1974, just after the invasion, the UN wanted to pass a resolution to ceasefire and it was Russia that was blocking such a resolution. Add to that the fact that the Russians actually facilitated the supply of fuel and the transport of the fuel and you begin to see who has the best interest of Cyprus.

I know the Yanks are not in my good books but this is in a different level.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby Londonrake » Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:17 pm

Lordo wrote:An interesting fact came out of the book. When Akinci won the election, Drousiotis was invited to meet him and Akinci had asked him about the Americans and what effect they are having on the talks. Drousiotis advised Akinci that it is not the Americans who he needs to worry about. Sure they want a solution that suits them but they do want a solution. Where as he should be more aware of the effect Russia has in the talks. The Russians are controlling the GC and Greek establishment like a puppets on a glove. The difference is that id does not suit the Russians to have peace in Cyprus. They like things as they are as it is causing problems between Greece and Turkey which means the NATO's Southern flank is in conflict and that's the way they like it.

It seems Akinci did not register the danger that was waiting for him heading to Crans-Montana.

Interestingly it has also divulged that back in 1974, just after the invasion, the UN wanted to pass a resolution to ceasefire and it was Russia that was blocking such a resolution. Add to that the fact that the Russians actually facilitated the supply of fuel and the transport of the fuel and you begin to see who has the best interest of Cyprus.

I know the Yanks are not in my good books but this is in a different level.


Interesting/informative post.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:28 am

https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/local/t ... prus-poll/

In addition, 90.3% of respondents believe that things are going in the wrong direction in the territories still under occupation since a 1974 invasion by Turkey.

The most important issues that cause anxiety to Turkish Cypriots is the economy followed by the Cyprus problem, incompetent political leadership, inflation, unemployment and corruption.

The survey also showed that 82.76% of respondents agreed with the view that “there has been an increasing interference of Turkey in the internal affairs of the ‘trnc’ in recent years.”

The percentage of those who said they did not agree with this view was only 7.13%.


...much dissatisfaction.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:56 pm

Most notable among them was Serdar Denktash, son of late Turkish Cypriot leader Rauf Denktash. He marched side by side with CTP Leader Tufan Erhurman, with the pair also joined by independent ‘MPs’ and mayors belonging to the CTP, and Mehmet Kucuk, son of late Republic of Cyprus Vice President Fazil Kucuk.

Mehmet Ali Talat, Turkish Cypriot Leader between 2005 and 2010, was also in attendance


https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/10/28/turk ... overnment/

...while the demonstration was measured only in hundreds, it is notable the opposition that has united against this government.
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Re: elections in the illegally occupied territories

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:03 pm

https://lgcnews.com/corruption-rife-in- ... s-solyali/

There is 90 percent corruption and bribery in the country, Nicosia CTP deputy Ürün Solyalı says in an interview with Yeniduzen.

...a detailed analysis follows supporting his claim.
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