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[repulsewarrior]

..."the UN Charter is a promise, not a reality yet", he says.

(hate to say it but Mr. Anastasiades is a better speaker)

https://www.saudigazette.com.sa/article ... p-priority

...easier to read.

[Lordo]

RW shit beautifully spoken is still shit.

“It’s people — Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots — continue to suffer the consequences of invasion, occupation, division. They are deprived of fundamental freedoms and human rights. Europe, which decades ago witnessed the worst horrors humankind has ever committed against itself, remains fractured as long as Cyprus is divided.”

He needs to read the history of Cyprus Problem with a little more attention cause his conclusion is shit. Only GCs suffered since 1974. The TCs were suffering for over a decade before that in the hands of his predecessors. We are talking about police picking up innocent civilians off the road or the fields and executing them. Naturally TMT replied and did the same thing. I think it is called eye for an eye. The difference being most of the time the RoC was involved in the killings rather than protecting the innocent. Hell they did not even protect the GCs who were killed by EOKA. And yet the RoC policy currently is to punish the TCs for the invasion by Turkey. Go figure.

Cyprus had an opportunity to unite both in 1972 and again in 2004 and was refused both times by GC predecessors.

Can he please tell us something we have not heard before.

[repulsewarrior]

Council: Turkiye must pay $64m to those who cannot access their properties in Northern Cyprus

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230 ... rn-cyprus/

...a step closer to declaring the IPC cannot provide a local remedy.

[repulsewarrior]

RW shit beautifully spoken is still shit.

“It’s people — Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots — continue to suffer the consequences of invasion, occupation, division. They are deprived of fundamental freedoms and human rights. Europe, which decades ago witnessed the worst horrors humankind has ever committed against itself, remains fractured as long as Cyprus is divided.”

He needs to read the history of Cyprus Problem with a little more attention cause his conclusion is shit. Only GCs suffered since 1974. The TCs were suffering for over a decade before that in the hands of his predecessors. We are talking about police picking up innocent civilians off the road or the fields and executing them. Naturally TMT replied and did the same thing. I think it is called eye for an eye. The difference being most of the time the RoC was involved in the killings rather than protecting the innocent. Hell they did not even protect the GCs who were killed by EOKA. And yet the RoC policy currently is to punish the TCs for the invasion by Turkey. Go figure.

Cyprus had an opportunity to unite both in 1972 and again in 2004 and was refused both times by GC predecessors.

Can he please tell us something we have not heard before.

...he needs to act more as the President of all Cypriots.

Both DISY and AKEL should be behind such a notion, cultivating the opposition to "Them" (both Turkish and Greek), joining Cypriots (left and right) together in their common Principles.

..."Cypriot" is a state of mind, fact is in the politics of Cyprus the voters speak loud and clear even in their dysfunctional state torn apart for decades, they have never voted overwhelmingly for even one of "These" candidates.

...a Leader above all represents 'our' aspirations; despite the past (because of the past).

[Lordo]

Council: Turkiye must pay $64m to those who cannot access their properties in Northern Cyprus

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230 ... rn-cyprus/

...a step closer to declaring the IPC cannot provide a local remedy.

Agree with that but how about the TCs who are not allowed to access property in the South. Why do bastards apply this rule to all Cypriots who have lost property in the north and the south. Why only for GCs who lost property in the south.

IPC can show that it does provide remedy for those who apply. The question should be why have RoC created and IPC for the TCs who have property in the south they are not allowed to access.

[Lordo]

RW shit beautifully spoken is still shit.

“It’s people — Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots — continue to suffer the consequences of invasion, occupation, division. They are deprived of fundamental freedoms and human rights. Europe, which decades ago witnessed the worst horrors humankind has ever committed against itself, remains fractured as long as Cyprus is divided.”

He needs to read the history of Cyprus Problem with a little more attention cause his conclusion is shit. Only GCs suffered since 1974. The TCs were suffering for over a decade before that in the hands of his predecessors. We are talking about police picking up innocent civilians off the road or the fields and executing them. Naturally TMT replied and did the same thing. I think it is called eye for an eye. The difference being most of the time the RoC was involved in the killings rather than protecting the innocent. Hell they did not even protect the GCs who were killed by EOKA. And yet the RoC policy currently is to punish the TCs for the invasion by Turkey. Go figure.

Cyprus had an opportunity to unite both in 1972 and again in 2004 and was refused both times by GC predecessors.

Can he please tell us something we have not heard before.

...he needs to act more as the President of all Cypriots.

Both DISY and AKEL should be behind such a notion, cultivating the opposition to "Them" (both Turkish and Greek), joining Cypriots (left and right) together in their common Principles.

..."Cypriot" is a state of mind, fact is in the politics of Cyprus the voters speak loud and clear even in their dysfunctional state torn apart for decades, they have never voted overwhelmingly for even one of "These" candidates.

...a Leader above all represents 'our' aspirations; despite the past (because of the past).

At times you are very naïve RW. This cove can say what ever he likes now, knowing that Tatar will not come to the table to discuss anything other than two states. The question is what will he say if after the next election in the north, Erhurman wins and he does want to talk. Will he go back to where they left off at Crans-Montana?

I suspect not.

[repulsewarrior]

...i am hoping that by the time the next elections role around, the opposition to Tatar and the "Cypriot Turks" will have established firm links with Parties like DISY and AKEL, with Policies that serve the needs of this electorate, as Cypriots.

Exposing "Them" to the possibility that Turkish Cypriots would vote for this President, young as he is, may make his re-election, and those opposed to Tatar's "Turkishness" more possible. But you are right, words alone won't do it.

...certainly, a register of Hotels across the island that are Cypriot would help, so do Certification Processes in Education and Labour Practices that are open to all Cypriot Universities, Hospitals, and Unions for qualification helps also.

...the issue of employment, for youth, becoming an island-wide issue is not an unworthy task for such Parties (Cypriot, Turkish or Greek).

...it is not hard to imagine a Cypriot Olympic Team rich in its diversity as well as their capacities.

...are there subsidies for those Cypriot who wish to venture into or who are in the illegally occupied territories toward establishing Cypriot Enterprise (and Trade)?

A Federal Government (to be possible in Cyprus) must be seen to be acting effectively, economically, and efficiently (for Cypriots).

Lordo, look at the bright side, at least he is not one of those old farts who consider themselves Heroes but if the truth were told they are cowards hiding behind the hateful dogmas they have created for themselves, for power; through fear.

...it's to early to tell what path he'll take, still.

[Lordo]

Why has he not declared the path?
Is he going back to where they left off in 2017 or not.
Blooming heck it has been 6 years without any talks.

Lets face it RW, one thing we do know in life is that once one has power, they will not give it up without a fight. Why would he be any different. Fifty years of talks has taught us that if nothing else.
Can you imagine a GC leader who would be willing to lose the power they have over RoC?

[repulsewarrior]

...could you have imagined America lost because of its President but for a few Patriots?

It would take courage that we have not seen yet but it is possible.

[Lordo]

Crime at Crans-Montana:
Russia sabotaged a deal to reunite Cyprus, undermined NATO and lured Turkey away from the West

This is how this book by Drousiotis is described. When Drouiotis was asked about why he was chosen by Anastasiades to go with him, he could not explain it but he did say that he had heard that Anastasiades when asked about taking Drousiotis to Crans-Montana was his biggest mistake.