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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:07 am

Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...transference; i believe this is called,

https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/dip ... ian-issues

"The functioning of the Committee on Missing Persons in Cyprus, which struggles against time to find the missing, and produces and continues to produce results with the extraordinary efforts of scientists from both sides, will be more effective if the Greek side finds the burial places of the missing and persuades witnesses to speak, as the TRNC and the Republic of Turkey are doing," it added.

...while the Turkish Army has always been completely unhelpful, still not forthcoming after all these years with the information they hold, such comments show the lengths to which the Turkish government will go to gain sympathy from the reading public.

What? And has the RoC been any better?



...in this case yes. Just look back in this topic, plenty of sources to choose from as time wears on.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:22 am

...education, the bedrock of any society,

Ankara demands a Turkish-centered history
https://www.philenews.com/eidiseis/poli ... 5492848758

"After referring to the Reds, he criticized changes in history books made in the past and especially during the period of Mehmet Ali Talat in the "Ministry of Education" when "history was erased"."

History was not erased, but it is certain that the "Turks" will be adding to it.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:23 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...education, the bedrock of any society,

Ankara demands a Turkish-centered history
https://www.philenews.com/eidiseis/poli ... 5492848758

"After referring to the Reds, he criticized changes in history books made in the past and especially during the period of Mehmet Ali Talat in the "Ministry of Education" when "history was erased"."

History was not erased, but it is certain that the "Turks" will be adding to it.

Did the RoC change the history books the way Talat did? or was there no need?
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:37 am

...no, but it is all the more important. If Turkish Cypriots are to be respected they must make more efforts, now, to preserve their identity which Turkey is clearly trying to usurp.

Isolated as they are, the rest of us who are not Turkish Cypriot will see if their conviction defines them as a People. And with every step Turkey takes to challenge them is the need for an equal opposing force.

...such an effort, to defend a Cypriot existence as Cypriots, will only serve to expose "Them".

Turkish Cypriots in effect are the vanguard. Those who are against a Cypriot's existence as a Cypriot may find Cypriots joining against such notions that "Greekness" and "Turkishness" promote.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:13 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...no, but it is all the more important. If Turkish Cypriots are to be respected they must make more efforts, now, to preserve their identity which Turkey is clearly trying to usurp.

Isolated as they are, the rest of us who are not Turkish Cypriot will see if their conviction defines them as a People. And with every step Turkey takes to challenge them is the need for an equal opposing force.

...such an effort, to defend a Cypriot existence as Cypriots, will only serve to expose "Them".

Turkish Cypriots in effect are the vanguard. Those who are against a Cypriot's existence as a Cypriot may find Cypriots joining against such notions that "Greekness" and "Turkishness" promote.

I like that, forget about what the GCs are doing, what are the TCs doing is your question and they must sort out Turkey.

The number of times we came close to having an agreement and it was refused by the GCs is beyond belief. They gave you Marash twice with no strings attached and you refused and they gave it to you a third time with just Ercan and Magusa ports being opened to international trade which would have cost you nothing and it was refused. You really do have more front front southend RW. Anastasiades has done everythin in his power to remove Akincii even talked to Cavushoglu behind his back abaout a two state solution. And now the Tatar is asking for it, it was as if it was never discussed. Butter would not melt in his mouth the assholes.

Sure, anything else you would like from them?
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:26 am

...i would say, they must lead, without 'the vast majority' that is Cyprus. If there are Cypriots they will follow, for a Cypriot way; those who are "Greeks" may join against "Turkishness", but it would mean having to take a hard look at themselves.

Indeed, it won't be all "TC"s as you call them that will or will not support these notions, it is the half that as voters who have always voted for a Cypriot way. And this is what makes the "Greek" side and the "Turkish" side the same; "they" would never want to admit (that only) a Cypriot existence is due; that such a People have never waned at the polls.

Cypriots suffer, so does our Human existence; without an Identity which is clearly defined by its existence in History, and, by its geography because it is an island after all, that we exist as Individuals equally willing to defend it and the Universal Principals on which such an Identity is based, it remains the same.

Freedom, Cypriots will not have until they join to keep it.

Liberty, without respect and trust, is all "they" offer; (certainly not Freedom); where have they demonstrated that this is better?

...you speak of the two regimes as though the People do not exist; it is but a half that "they" have a hold of
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:30 am

...not just a threat to Cyprus,

https://thearabweekly.com/turkish-drone ... n-aviation

An intelligence report suggested that the Gecitkale base will be expanded to host both armed and unarmed Bayraktar TV2 drones, surveillance aircraft, training planes and advanced fighter jets.


The International Federation of Air Line Pilots’ Associations (IFALPA) cited a recent European Union Air Safety Agency (EASA) study that the potential consequences of such conflicting instructions to civilian jets “could be detrimental to flight safety for aircraft” operating in the region. The same study recorded 166 “incidents” took place inside airspace controlled by Nicosia ATC in 2019, without specifying the exact nature of the incidents. The same study indicated that between 2016-18, there were 276, 260 and 254 “incidents” respectively.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:37 am

FYI Gecitkale is not a base, it is an airport and it was used when Ercan had to be refurbished for a year or so. It was built for Nato and is used by Nato and of course Turkish Armed Forces.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:46 pm

...it is, as Erdogan says, the Treaty of Sevres cornered.

Armed as it is, now makes it much clearer; their (his) intentions do not include Cypriot concerns.

...you can submit Lordo, or, if you are Cypriot you can resist.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:10 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...it is, as Erdogan says, the Treaty of Sevres cornered.

Armed as it is, now makes it much clearer; their (his) intentions do not include Cypriot concerns.

...you can submit Lordo, or, if you are Cypriot you can resist.

Resist with both hands tied behind my back by the lovely GRoC RW. you need to wake up mate.

Embargoes have to go.
TCs are allowed to begin to survive without the need of Turkish Financial aid
The you will see the TCs resist.

While financial aid comes in very small percentage wil lresist. Not even a god bites the hand that feeds it.
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