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[Paphitis]

Locking up the elderly until coronavirus is defeated is a cruel mockery of basic human values: Former Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION gives a withering critique of the Government's lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... kdown.html

An insightful interview with Lord Sumption about the worrying human rights implications of the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrR11HNFp8

More confirmation bias, no doubt. OK folks, give me links to things I should be reading/listening to so as to correct this!

I'm with you on this Tim. I think it's a violation of Human Rights.

[cyprusgrump]

Locking up the elderly until coronavirus is defeated is a cruel mockery of basic human values: Former Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION gives a withering critique of the Government's lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... kdown.html

An insightful interview with Lord Sumption about the worrying human rights implications of the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrR11HNFp8

More confirmation bias, no doubt. OK folks, give me links to things I should be reading/listening to so as to correct this!

I'm with you on this Tim. I think it's a violation of Human Rights.

I have some friends that got a repatriation flight from Heathrow to Larnaca yesterday.

They are now locked in a hotel room in Ayia Napa for 14 days with Army guards outside to make sure they don't escape...

[erolz66]

Locking up the elderly until coronavirus is defeated is a cruel mockery of basic human values: Former Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION gives a withering critique of the Government's lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... kdown.html

An insightful interview with Lord Sumption about the worrying human rights implications of the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrR11HNFp8

More confirmation bias, no doubt. OK folks, give me links to things I should be reading/listening to so as to correct this!

I'm with you on this Tim. I think it's a violation of Human Rights.

I have some friends that got a repatriation flight from Heathrow to Larnaca yesterday.

They are now locked in a hotel room in Ayia Napa for 14 days with Army guards outside to make sure they don't escape...

They did not know before they chose to take this flight that they would be required to quarantine for 14 days on entry to the RoC ?

[erolz66]

Locking up the elderly until coronavirus is defeated is a cruel mockery of basic human values: Former Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION gives a withering critique of the Government's lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... kdown.html

An insightful interview with Lord Sumption about the worrying human rights implications of the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrR11HNFp8

More confirmation bias, no doubt. OK folks, give me links to things I should be reading/listening to so as to correct this!

I'm with you on this Tim. I think it's a violation of Human Rights.

Not so long ago you were lauding Australia refusing to allow cruise ships to dock in Australia even to let off Australian citizens, let alone any others and condemning such people to remain locked on ships where it was known the virus was spreading. Human rights indeed. Did you even read past the sensationalist MSM exaggerated headline to what Lord Sumption actually wrote ? I doubt it.

Talk of compulsorily 'shielding' (in plain English locking up) the old and vulnerable until one of those things happens is a cruel mockery of basic human values.

Talk. There has so far been NO compulsory isolation of the 'elderly' or other high risk groups in the UK. The people I know who are in such groups in the UK are isolating BY CHOICE.

[cyprusgrump]

Locking up the elderly until coronavirus is defeated is a cruel mockery of basic human values: Former Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION gives a withering critique of the Government's lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... kdown.html

An insightful interview with Lord Sumption about the worrying human rights implications of the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrR11HNFp8

More confirmation bias, no doubt. OK folks, give me links to things I should be reading/listening to so as to correct this!

I'm with you on this Tim. I think it's a violation of Human Rights.

I have some friends that got a repatriation flight from Heathrow to Larnaca yesterday.

They are now locked in a hotel room in Ayia Napa for 14 days with Army guards outside to make sure they don't escape...

They did not know before they chose to take this flight that they would be required to quarantine for 14 days on entry to the RoC ?

Yet another of your Straw Man arguments...

The discussion point is if such restrictions on our liberty are appropriate. But then you knew that...

[erolz66]

The discussion point is if such restrictions on our liberty are appropriate. But then you knew that...

It is a fundamental of liberty that restriction of such by CONSENT is not the same as restriction without consent. No one forced your friends on to a flight that would require them to enter quarantine on arrival. They chose to get on that flight knowing that the quarantine would be a condition on arrival.

So you think that fundamental liberty means that a state should not have the right to require that someone entering the country from a virus hot spot during a global pandemic of this nature, do you ? Cause I did not see much comment from you when USA and countless other places were imposing such restrictions all the way back to January.

[Kikapu]

Locking up the elderly until coronavirus is defeated is a cruel mockery of basic human values: Former Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION gives a withering critique of the Government's lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... kdown.html

An insightful interview with Lord Sumption about the worrying human rights implications of the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrR11HNFp8

More confirmation bias, no doubt. OK folks, give me links to things I should be reading/listening to so as to correct this!

One man’s opinion on Human Rights or on any other rights cannot be accepted as gospel without first arguments are heard for and against the case in the court of law.

Lord Sumption as a former Supreme Court Judge does not change the above argument.

[erolz66]

Locking up the elderly until coronavirus is defeated is a cruel mockery of basic human values: Former Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION gives a withering critique of the Government's lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... kdown.html

An insightful interview with Lord Sumption about the worrying human rights implications of the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrR11HNFp8

More confirmation bias, no doubt. OK folks, give me links to things I should be reading/listening to so as to correct this!

One man’s opinion on Human Rights or on any other rights cannot be accepted as gospel without first arguments are heard for and against the case in the court of law.

Lord Sumption as a former Supreme Court Judge does not change the above argument.

And NO such compulsion has been introduce in the UK in any case despite the sensationalist MSM daily mail headline. All there has been to date is 'talk'.

[Paphitis]

Locking up the elderly until coronavirus is defeated is a cruel mockery of basic human values: Former Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION gives a withering critique of the Government's lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... kdown.html

An insightful interview with Lord Sumption about the worrying human rights implications of the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrR11HNFp8

More confirmation bias, no doubt. OK folks, give me links to things I should be reading/listening to so as to correct this!

I'm with you on this Tim. I think it's a violation of Human Rights.

I have some friends that got a repatriation flight from Heathrow to Larnaca yesterday.

They are now locked in a hotel room in Ayia Napa for 14 days with Army guards outside to make sure they don't escape...

Army guards? Gee, a bit over the top.

I don't have a problem with 14 days of isolation which covers any incubation period. What's the worse thing ever is restricting everyone's movement indefinitely until this crisis is over. That could be anything up to 2 years. So basically keeping everyone under house arrest other than shopping for essential items or for work.

[Paphitis]

Locking up the elderly until coronavirus is defeated is a cruel mockery of basic human values: Former Supreme Court judge LORD SUMPTION gives a withering critique of the Government's lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... kdown.html

An insightful interview with Lord Sumption about the worrying human rights implications of the lockdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrR11HNFp8

More confirmation bias, no doubt. OK folks, give me links to things I should be reading/listening to so as to correct this!

I'm with you on this Tim. I think it's a violation of Human Rights.

Not so long ago you were lauding Australia refusing to allow cruise ships to dock in Australia even to let off Australian citizens, let alone any others and condemning such people to remain locked on ships where it was known the virus was spreading. Human rights indeed. Did you even read past the sensationalist MSM exaggerated headline to what Lord Sumption actually wrote ? I doubt it.

Talk of compulsorily 'shielding' (in plain English locking up) the old and vulnerable until one of those things happens is a cruel mockery of basic human values.

Talk. There has so far been NO compulsory isolation of the 'elderly' or other high risk groups in the UK. The people I know who are in such groups in the UK are isolating BY CHOICE.

I am in full support of Australia closing it's borders to outsiders and forbidding cruise ships from docking in Australia and taking draconian steps to prevent the importation of Chy-na Virus into Australia from other countries.

because of it, we have have less than 900 active cases and declining daily and as a result of this, restrictions will begin to be lifted gradually.

Those cruise ships almost brought us to the brink of disaster, and Australia has the sovereign right to restrict entry to non citizens and permanent residents. Those shipping companies can now shove it because entering Australia to go on holiday during a national State of Emergency isn't a human right. Those who violated Australian laws have been charged and shipping companies are now facing major penalties and even embargoes where they are banned from entering Australia permanently.