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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:05 pm

Many of them have Coronavirus too.
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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby Kikapu » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:08 pm

Paphitis wrote:Many of them have Coronavirus too.

Turkey is full of Coronavirus. They are trying to hide it so not to ruin their tourist industry. Only an idiotic president can think he can sweep this virus under the carpet as if it does not exists.
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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:11 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Many of them have Coronavirus too.

Turkey is full of Coronavirus. They are trying to hide it so not to ruin their tourist industry. Only an idiotic president can think he can sweep this virus under the carpet as if it does not exists.


I heard stories they have had 10,000 deaths Kikapu and that they are far worse than Italy, Spain, and Iran but they are covering it all up.

So they are the real epicenter.
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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby Kikapu » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Many of them have Coronavirus too.

Turkey is full of Coronavirus. They are trying to hide it so not to ruin their tourist industry. Only an idiotic president can think he can sweep this virus under the carpet as if it does not exists.


I heard stories they have had 10,000 deaths Kikapu and that they are far worse than Italy, Spain, and Iran but they are covering it all up.

So they are the real epicenter.

The fact that they do their Coronavirus testing only in Ankara for the whole country, is a way to keep information from getting out.
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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:35 am

the confirmed number of total reported cases of the virus in Turkey is now doubling by the day.

On the 14th of March, there were 6 confirmed cases,

18 on the 15th

46 on the 16th

98 on the 17th

191 on the 18th

There have been 2 confirmed deaths.

The average time from symptoms to death is about 3 weeks. As estimated from elsewhere. The incubation period is about 2 weeks.

So this has been probably been spreading in the country since January.
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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby erolz66 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:43 am

imo

The EU will renew the deal with Turkey and it will almost certainly involve paying more money to Turkey because as unpalatable as that is for the EU it is still more palatable than the EU accepting it's international legal obligations towards refugees when they number in the 10's of millions.
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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:45 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Many of them have Coronavirus too.

Turkey is full of Coronavirus. They are trying to hide it so not to ruin their tourist industry. Only an idiotic president can think he can sweep this virus under the carpet as if it does not exists.


I heard stories they have had 10,000 deaths Kikapu and that they are far worse than Italy, Spain, and Iran but they are covering it all up.

So they are the real epicenter.

The fact that they do their Coronavirus testing only in Ankara for the whole country, is a way to keep information from getting out.


And they are not revealing the real stats, thus endangering the world even more.

Also, the migrants at Greece's border amounts to a BIO war against Greece.

I say that because if these people get in and a lot of them have the virus, then Greece becomes another Italy in no time.
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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:50 am

erolz66 wrote:imo

The EU will renew the deal with Turkey and it will almost certainly involve paying more money to Turkey because as unpalatable as that is for the EU it is still more palatable than the EU accepting it's international legal obligations towards refugees when they number in the 10's of millions.


What about Turkeys international legal obligations towards the refugees?

Turkey is more obliged because it is the first country they arrived in. From there, they have to file their asylum application and they go wherever they are accepted. The EU member states are as much obliged as every other country on the planet. So enough of directing all the international obligation for refugees towards the EU. It is a fallacy to expect and demand the EU to take in all the worlds refugees.

Erdogan can make representation to the IOC to share his burden. Why isnt he doing that? :roll:

Plus, there arent 10's of millions of refugees.

Givers have to set limits because takers rarely ever do..........
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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:05 am

Maximus wrote:
erolz66 wrote:imo

The EU will renew the deal with Turkey and it will almost certainly involve paying more money to Turkey because as unpalatable as that is for the EU it is still more palatable than the EU accepting it's international legal obligations towards refugees when they number in the 10's of millions.


What about Turkeys international legal obligations towards the refugees?

Turkey is more obliged because it is the first country they arrived in. From there, they have to file their asylum application and they go wherever they are accepted. The EU member states are as much obliged as every other country on the planet. So enough of directing all the international obligation for refugees towards the EU. It is a fallacy to expect and demand the EU to take in all the worlds refugees.

Erdogan can make representation to the IOC to share his burden. Why isnt he doing that? :roll:

Plus, there arent 10's of millions of refugees.

Givers have to set limits because takers rarely ever do..........


It's become fashional these days to tell Erdogan to FO.

If the EU do not tell this criminal a FO, then they are idiots and I hope they burn for it!

So far, Russia, USA and Israel have been resolute in telling this Sultan of ultimate stupidity to get lost. Time for the EU to play ball or all else.

Back in 2004, I was a supporter of the EU when Cyprus joined, but since then I have come to loathe them with a passion like so many millions more. They deserve all the shit they can get.
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Re: Greece/Turkey border clashes

Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:10 am

I know what you mean,

Plus, these refugees dont have to go to the EU. Its just becaome the most common narrative in debate. All false.

They are safe and are being fed and many of them are working in Turkey.

Turkey is also a member of the IOC and Erdogan can make representations to other Muslim nations to share them around.

Has Turkey done that. No...

erdogan and people like Erolz are more interested in getting rid of them through the EU than anything else.
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