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Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:55 am

Get Real! wrote:If France deems Libyan oilfields important enough, they could just park the Charles de Gaulle a few miles off Sirte, land 100 Rafale’s on standby in southern Italy, place a significant portion of their Legionnaires in Tripoli, and declare and no-go and no-fly zone as they please!

And what are the rest of the clowns going to do about it?

Not even the combined forces of Egypt, Turkey, Greece and CY, can do anything to stop France’s will should they decide to do so.

That’s what a nuclear power is all about… you don’t fuck with them! :lol:


Greece, Cyprus, Egypt, US are on the same side as the French so why would any of them want to do anything?

The country against France is Turkey. They are on the opposite side of virtually every country when it comes to Libya. The rest of us are with Haftar. Turkey so far has been stupid enough to land troops, arms and aircraft in Libya in opposition of everyone - France, Russia, Italy, US. Long may this stupidity continue.
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Re: World Unites against so called 'Tu**ey'

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:59 am

repulsewarrior wrote:


Comparing Turkey as a miniature Chy-na is extremely accurate.

No other countries are bigger bullies as of late than both Turkey and Chy-na

They should be kicked out of NATO. It might just happen.

Pootin is trying to achieve that - let Pootin have this as a victory. It’s an Islamic State now.

Stanathema tous!

Don’t forget, Turkey is a country always on the brink. How long can it continue before the secularists and/or Kurds hit back? Hopefully not long.
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Re: World Unites against so called 'Tu**ey'

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:07 am

Londonrake wrote:Well, I've been to Israel and can tell you that they don't need any of that. Trust me, the IDF have something far more effective:

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Yeh I can vouch for that. Their women are hot.

Years ago, I use to date one that was temporarily in Australia and I still talk with her. 8)

We bonded well and she use to say Israel and Cyprus are cursed to be where they are. :lol:
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Re: World Unites against so called 'Tu**ey'

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:17 am

Paphitis wrote:
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Cap wrote:Agree with Paphitis.
Israel is a known nuclear power of which much they refuse to disclose.
Their entire existence is built on defense, innovation and their intelligence agencies are vast and far reaching.
Definitely 1st division.

Can Israel wage war against another nation on the other side of the globe?

Has Israel landed on the moon or are they even involved in one of the handful of space programs? (Indian, Chinese, European, Russian, American)

Does Israel have an aircraft carrier even?

Can Israel manufacture Yellowcake?

Such are the prerequisites to be called a “superpower”.

Israel would only make first division if there was a “sponging off the planet” league! :lol:


But you forget...Israel doesn’t want to wage a war on the other side of the planet. It’s geared to wage war in its region with the focus clearly being to defend its National Borders. It’s literally a Defence Force with the ability to attack neighbouring nations if need be, including Iran. It’s focusing on its own defence and attacking its known enemies if necessary.

Yellow cake is available to them from Australia as they require it. We got a lot. Australia probably has no issue supplying Israel either as we have a good friendly and cordial relationship with them.

But this is not about what Israel wants but what Israel CAN or CANNOT do that would determine if Israel is a superpower, but unfortunately they can’t do any of the things I listed and there’s more… much more:

* Does Israel have a satellite orbiting the entire globe?

* Can Israel strike any target on the planet from Israeli territory?

* Does Israel have military bases outside of Israel thereby extending its reach?

Come to think of it, I was being very generous putting Israel in division two! :lol:

You’ll find that nations like Britain, France, Japan, Germany, China, Russia, US, etc... can do all the things I’ve listed and that’s what puts them in the top division.

Israel has no place in this group.
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Re: World Unites against so called 'Tu**ey'

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:31 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Cap wrote:Agree with Paphitis.
Israel is a known nuclear power of which much they refuse to disclose.
Their entire existence is built on defense, innovation and their intelligence agencies are vast and far reaching.
Definitely 1st division.

Can Israel wage war against another nation on the other side of the globe?

Has Israel landed on the moon or are they even involved in one of the handful of space programs? (Indian, Chinese, European, Russian, American)

Does Israel have an aircraft carrier even?

Can Israel manufacture Yellowcake?

Such are the prerequisites to be called a “superpower”.

Israel would only make first division if there was a “sponging off the planet” league! :lol:


But you forget...Israel doesn’t want to wage a war on the other side of the planet. It’s geared to wage war in its region with the focus clearly being to defend its National Borders. It’s literally a Defence Force with the ability to attack neighbouring nations if need be, including Iran. It’s focusing on its own defence and attacking its known enemies if necessary.

Yellow cake is available to them from Australia as they require it. We got a lot. Australia probably has no issue supplying Israel either as we have a good friendly and cordial relationship with them.

But this is not about what Israel wants but what Israel CAN or CANNOT do that would determine if Israel is a superpower, but unfortunately they can’t do any of the things I listed and there’s more… much more:

* Does Israel have a satellite orbiting the entire globe?

* Can Israel strike any target on the planet from Israeli territory?

* Does Israel have military bases outside of Israel thereby extending its reach?

Come to think of it, I was being very generous putting Israel in division two! :lol:

You’ll find that nations like Britain, France, Japan, Germany, China, Russia, US, etc... can do all the things I’ve listed and that’s what puts them in the top division.

Israel has no place in this group.


They can if they wanted too....size has not as much to do with it as you seem to think because warfare has changed in this day and age.

I’ll give you 2 examples, one is Israel and the other has an even smaller military than the IDF (which isn’t small).

The other is Australia.

2 Defence Forces but equiped to do 2 different things.

Israel, good at defending their borders and projecting power in their region and even give neighbouring countries as big as Iran a good smack down. Not equiped to operate that well on the other side of the planet.

Australia which has virtually not much at all defensive capability. We rely on our geography and we are lucky the geography favours us and that there isn’t really a power in the world that is able to land troops here, invade and occupy us. It’s a death mission for the invader. So our capability in terms of troops on the ground, armour isn’t that great as we believe it doesn’t need to be so we focus resources elsewhere.

However, good at quickly deploying troops thousands of kilometers away and equiped with an Air Force and Navy that can operate anywhere. Geared to operate as part of a multinational force in the Gulf, Med, South Chy-na Sea and able to offensively offer a strike capability.

The Israelis don’t do this because they don’t want to. Their priority is to defend Israel from their neighbours.
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Re: World Unites against so called 'Tu**ey'

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:36 am

Oh be quiet Paphitis! :roll:

You need a TRILLION dollar budget to do most of the things I’ve outlined, and where the hell is tiny Israel gonna get that kind of money?

Anyway, my intention here wasn’t to go on a belittling campaign against Israel, but to awaken some of you who seem clueless as to what a superpower is and what they are capable of.

I’ll now close with a strong message to ErdoCunt...

Know your place little Turk! :lol:
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Re: World Unites against so called 'Tu**ey'

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:46 am

Get Real! wrote:Oh be quiet Paphitis! :roll:

You need a TRILLION dollar budget to do most of the things I’ve outlined, and where the hell is tiny Israel gonna get that kind of money?

Anyway, my intention here wasn’t to go on a belittling campaign against Israel, but to awaken some of you who seem clueless as to what a superpower is and what they are capable of.

I’ll now close with a strong message to ErdoCunt...

Know your place little Turk! :lol:


Nonsense!

You can have a top notch maritime capability to patrol thousands of kilometers, a first rate surveillance umbrella to do the same, 12 Shortfin Submarines able to launch cruise missions from any corner of the globe and for a few million dollars can be able to retrofit 2 existing ships to take F-35b aircraft, and have Air Wafare Destroyers operating on the other side of the globe taking out infrastructure, and causing all kinds of havoc and mayhem. Israel can if it chooses to, do the same, but their priorities lie elsewhere.

All with a defence force of 80k all up - all fully professional and well trained, and defence expenditure of 26 billion - about to become 50 billion. Thanks to Chy-na.

I also rate Israel as a legitimate regional power. That’s all they need to be.
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Re: World Unites against so called 'Tu**ey'

Postby Maximus » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:21 pm

All this BS is being done to create distractions and diversions.

Errorgan has made too many mistakes but instead of fixing them, he make other errors to try and hide them.

Converting the Agia Sophia in to a mosque is just one example of such distractions. But it has no medium to long term benefit.

Investment funds withdrew more than $7 billion from Turkey’s local currency bond market in the six months up to the end of June - the largest first half yearly drawdown on record, WSJ said, citing data from Turkey’s central bank. “The way they pulled out of Turkey is really unprecedented.”

Meanwhile, Turkey’s central bank spent billions of dollars of foreign-exchange reserves and borrowed foreign currencies from domestic banks to buy lira to halt the slide in the currency. Despite that, the currency still slumped to record lows.

With the lira sliding, Turkey’s overseas borrowing costs have risen this year, which is spooking foreign investors.

Investors are also increasingly worried about how borrowers will repay their debt, as Turkish banks issued loans to households at a record pace in the first half of the year. The government is guaranteeing debt to small and medium-size businesses to keep credit flowing.

The WSJ reported that Turkey’s central bank now owes more in foreign currencies than it has in its coffers.

Turkey’s dependence on its reserves and borrowed currencies has led to investors speculating that Ankara heading towards a balance-of-payments crisis, which would leave Turkey unable to pay for essential imports or make payments on its external debt. So they wont be able to keep supporting the currency, Which will make the next round of currency depreciation quite devastating.

In which case, Turkey would be forced to let the currency weaken and raise interest rates, reducing economic growth, or to seek a bailout, the WSJ said.

The banks are basically going to go under and Turkey is going to default.

This is what Erdogan is trying to create distractions from because the average Turk is heading towards the poverty line and the upper middle classes are going to lose a substantial amount of wealth.

He has basically fckd the country and he thinks wars and sanctions will provide him with a scapegoat.

https://ahvalnews.com/turkish-economy/f ... market-wsj
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Re: World Unites against so called 'Tu**ey'

Postby Maximus » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:26 pm

The US air craft carrier Eisenhower will enter the med via the suez canal and conduct joint military exercises with Greece off of crete.

Expecting to last for around 10 days, involving f16,s and about 10 US war ships that will be accompanying the carrier.

Frances Charles de Gaulle, has conducted military exercises with Egypt. Egypt didn't say when but it was mentioned in Egypt today, days ago.

Meanwhile, the Turkish authorities are still talking chuzpa but are showing signs of backing down with their military chaperoned navtex to survey in Greece's EEZ.

How are they going to wage a war in Libya now? They will be buried in the med trying to get there.
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Re: World Unites against so called 'Tu**ey'

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:17 pm

...Pakistan is Turkey's staunchest ally,



...something to think about.
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