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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Paphitis » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:21 am

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Paphitis wrote:I read many articles and it looks like the UK has a free trade deal. So good result for them and they also BREXIT. Sounds like they got their cake and get to eat it too. :wink:


It only sounds that way to you because you are an idiot. There are more barriers to trade between the UK and the EU now than there were when we were members. That means less trade. That is the way it works. If you look a services which accounts for the majority of UK trade with the EU, its biggest trading partner , then the barriers are much much worse now and trade will suffer. Only an idiot could perceive that having more barriers to trade and thus less trade in total with your biggest single trading partner is 'cake'. It is not. We chose to have less trade with the EU in return for getting our 'sovereignty' back and we did it by proving we had not lost that sovereignty in the first place because as long as you can chose to leave you are sovereign, by definition.


And much less in the way of barriers in trade with non EU countries like the America’s, Australia, Chy-na and India.

I choose the latter despite the trade war which will end which is only as a result of over reliance on one country. The trade war isn’t really personal. It’s just business and fiscal policy realignment.

You always come up with these quite angry vitriolic insults. You do have form in this regard whereas I tend to control these silly outbursts of insult and vitriol because I consider who may be on the receiving end of such vitriol. Always thinking about the other person I am. I learned this to be the proper conduct of a gentleman. So the insults and vitriol you dish out is a clear reflection of yourself, and not my doing, as if you were describing what you see when you look in the mirror. I feel very sorry for you and imbecilic behaviour.
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Paphitis » Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:22 am

All of you have a slave mentality. There is zero chance of any EU member state agreeing to a FTD with other non EU countries.

The UK could not for instance just go out and sign a FTD with Australia, Canada, USA, India, Japan, or Chy-na.

Now it can because it is regaining its independence. And that is worth all the money in the world.

The EU just wants the UK to fail because if it becomes a massive success story, then others will follow.

And it will become a success story.

It’s actually pretty poor form restricting trade between the UK and its brethren countries like Australia, NZ and Canada. These countries are joined at the hip politically and even share the same Head of State.

Very poor form. But the UK is free now so you can all eat their dust! :D

You can make all the political constructs built on lies and falsehoods all you like but when it comes down to it, Britain has more in common with the far flung former dominions than it does with the continent of Europe. You thought you can hold them to ransom, but you couldn’t do it in the end. They won and showed the EU up for what it truly is.

Good riddance to the EU. Fact is, it’s good the Brits got a FTD and it’s also good for the EU. But even a FTD isn’t enough to hold this country to ransom against the democratic will of the people. This race of people put their countries before money. Look at Australia in its brave fight with Chy-na. That is the kind of nettle you lot simply don’t have. And that is a real big shame too. Maybe you could learn a lot from the Brits.

Wonderliar, you’re fired. You tried to push them around and now your face is in the dirt. Enjoy! :D

Now you will see an even bigger trade alliance, one that produces a shitload of agricultural products, steel, gas, iron ore, coal, uranium, copper, and everything else under the sun.
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Paphitis » Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:39 am

Oh but but but, there will be less trade with the EU! Oh no, Britain is gonna die! :shock:

How much less trade is the question of at all?

And let’s not talk about the fact they can freely sign any FTD they like with any country they like.

Mmmmm...some logic hey! :roll:
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby miltiades » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:57 am

Look stupid, the world's largest trading block is just around the corner, yet idiots think that doing new trade deals with Australia, Canada, Bangladesh and india is more conducive to Britain's trade !! In spite of some health issues I have been go8ng through I SHALL be around when Britain applies for EU membership in a few years when the peasants realize how stupid they have been and stop sitting on their brains.
The EU and the Euro will continue to thrive where as the UK will shrink financially.
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Paphitis » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:29 am

miltiades wrote:Look stupid, the world's largest trading block is just around the corner, yet idiots think that doing new trade deals with Australia, Canada, Bangladesh and india is more conducive to Britain's trade !! In spite of some health issues I have been go8ng through I SHALL be around when Britain applies for EU membership in a few years when the peasants realize how stupid they have been and stop sitting on their brains.
The EU and the Euro will continue to thrive where as the UK will shrink financially.


Milti, I could have told you fir free that you have a couple of health issues - mental health issues that is.

Yes, trade deals with Australia is quite huge considering the fact we are resource Rick down here.

Trade with I dis also huge as they are a massive market. Trade with Chy-na is also huge because they are a massive market. Trade with Canada is also huge.

Trade with the US is huge because they are not just a massive market, but have the biggest GDP. UK was not at Liberty to chart its own destiny and forge its own FTDs with any of them. Now they are!

Once the UK enter into the CANZUK block, they won’t be joining the EU. Unless of course you intend that all of CANZUK join the EU and that won’t be happening. You may live to see CANZUK but as for the UK joining EU, well all I got to say is I wish you good health. :lol:
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:24 pm

Just received this email from Ambassador Jane Owen’s Office whom I had the pleasure of meeting her at her residence with other British expats last year on Brexit. Basically, life will go on for us expats living in Switzerland mostly as before. :D


Happy New Year from the British Embassy Berne!

Her Majesty’s Ambassador, Jane Owen, and everyone at the Embassy wishes you and your loved ones all the best for the New Year!

As the Brexit Transition Period comes to an end on the 31st of December, we will continue to work hard to ensure that you have the information you need about living in Switzerland. We have summarised the most recent information and important links below.

As you will be aware, the UK and Switzerland have agreed on the UK-Swiss Citizen’s Rights Agreement, as well as a number of continuity agreements in other areas (which include trade, air services, road transport, insurance and services mobility), which are ready to come into force at the end of the transition period. These agreements provide a high degree of continuity for individuals and businesses in both Switzerland and the UK. For further information see: gov.uk/government/collections/eu-exit-transition-switzerland.

What to know about the Citizen’s Rights Agreement?

The UK-Swiss Citizens’ Rights Agreement protects the rights of UK nationals living in Switzerland, those who frontier work into Switzerland, as well as Swiss nationals living in the UK. It means that if you are a legal resident in Switzerland before the 1st of January 2021, you will be able to continue living your life in Switzerland broadly as you do now.

The deal protects your residence permit, your right to stay and to work, family reunification, access to healthcare, your social security benefits and lifelong access to an uprated state pension. Your professional qualifications will continue to be recognised. For further information see: gov.uk/guidance/living-in-switzerland

You do not need to take any actions to benefit from the Agreement. Your current residence permit will remain valid and you need to apply for a new residence permit (which will be biometric) before your existing one expires, as usual.

What will change from the 1st of January?

You will no longer be able to use the EU lane or e-gates when travelling, you will instead have to go through passport control. You will need to show your Residence Permit and Passport, which applies even when entering the Schengen Area in another country. Your passport will be stamped and should have at least six months left and be less than ten years old. There is a checker available at gov.uk/check-a-passport-travel-europe-1-january-2021. You may be asked to show your residence permit as proof of residency when checking in at the airport.

As a Schengen resident, you will not need to obtain a visa to travel to another country in the Schengen Area (e.g. on holiday). Your residence permit and passport act as proof of residency. However you are only allowed a maximum stay of 90 days in any 180 day period in another country.

European Health Insurance Card (EHIC)

Your access to healthcare in Switzerland will not change, as long as you are covered by the UK-Swiss Citizen’s Rights Agreement. Private health insurance is compulsory in Switzerland and must be taken out within 3 months of arriving or beginning to work in Switzerland. From the 1st of January 2021, your UK-issued EHIC will no longer be valid.

If you live in Switzerland and receive an exportable UK pension, contribution-based Employment Support Allowance or another exportable benefit, you may currently be entitled to state healthcare paid for by the UK. Read our guidance on using an S1 form in Switzerland to ensure you are correctly registered for healthcare here: gov.uk/guidance/healthcare-in-switzerland#s1


Want to know more?

For the latest news on the end of the Transition Period and information related to living in Switzerland and Liechtenstein, see our Living in Guides for Switzerland and Liechtenstein on GOV.UK, where you can sign up for email alerts.

You can also:

- Interact with us on Facebook where we hold regular Q&A sessions and can answer your questions.

- Visit gov.uk/travelaware for all your guidance relating to travel

- Read the UK-Swiss Citizens’ Rights Agreement and our Explainer

- Look through the official Swiss government page on Brexit and their questions and answers
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:08 am

I just saw a lm interview with Farage who is definitely a hard liner with regards to a hard BREXIT.

There has never been a plan he approved of till now. The worst one was Theresa May’s plan which he said was not a BREXIT plan at all.

Plus all the other plans, whilst better, were not far off. They never met his standards neither.

He wants a BREXIT with proper severing of all ties and EU meddling in British affairs and laws.

He came out yesterday and said the current plan is a good one for Britain, so he approves of it. At the same time he said, there are some negatives which he doesn’t like. EU countries will still be allowed to fish British waters for 6 years. But he said that’s a minor issue and the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Britain gets a FTD and will severe ties with EU which will no longer hold any powers over British law makers he said.

He said it’s been a long hard road but we are finally about to arrive at our destination. And the best thing is, it will put an end to the Brexit issue once and for all over so many years.

He is calling it a major victory for the UK and congratulated Boris after the doubts he had.

So it seems Farage is actually quite content. First time that has happened as the hard liner that he is. And the man has analysed every aspect of the deal.
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:17 am

Paphitis wrote:I just saw a lm interview with Farage who is definitely a hard liner with regards to a hard BREXIT.

There has never been a plan he approved of till now. The worst one was Theresa May’s plan which he said was not a BREXIT plan at all.

Plus all the other plans, whilst better, were not far off. They never met his standards neither.

He wants a BREXIT with proper severing of all ties and EU meddling in British affairs and laws.

He came out yesterday and said the current plan is a good one for Britain, so he approves of it. At the same time he said, there are some negatives which he doesn’t like. EU countries will still be allowed to fish British waters for 6 years. But he said that’s a minor issue and the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Britain gets a FTD and will severe ties with EU which will no longer hold any powers over British law makers he said.

He said it’s been a long hard road but we are finally about to arrive at our destination. And the best thing is, it will put an end to the Brexit issue once and for all over so many years.

He is calling it a major victory for the UK and congratulated Boris after the doubts he had.

So it seems Farage is actually quite content. First time that has happened as the hard liner that he is. And the man has analysed every aspect of the deal.


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There’s going to be a cost to Britain on the long run by leaving the EU. Biggest will be Scotland leaving the Union little by little until fully becoming independent and once again joining the EU. Scotland will openly keep demanding independence, and the more the UK says “NO”, the more the Scotts will demand it. UK will not be United as the name would suggest, even without independence for Scotland in the short term. Northern Ireland too may become a candidate to leave the UK.

EU’s fishing rights in British waters is not just for 5 1/2 years. That is just a transitional period before another agreement would need to be signed or else Tariffs will be added on any fish sold in the EU from the UK. There are still other transitional periods in other areas of the deal too.

There will be many changes as time goes as more and more is understood with the Brexit agreement. Too early on day two of Brexit to know everything. As for Farage, he wanted a No Deal Brexit as well as all the hardliners. He can make all the hallowed victories as he wants to save face, but the truth is, he has failed and the EU/UK are still connected at the hips still to a degree. By how much, we will know more with time.

Oh, and let’s not forget about the deal on Gibraltar where it is to become part of the Schengen area with Spain. Frontex, a European Union agency will be in charge of Gibraltar’s sea and airport entry points.
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:38 pm

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Paphitis wrote:I just saw a lm interview with Farage who is definitely a hard liner with regards to a hard BREXIT.

There has never been a plan he approved of till now. The worst one was Theresa May’s plan which he said was not a BREXIT plan at all.

Plus all the other plans, whilst better, were not far off. They never met his standards neither.

He wants a BREXIT with proper severing of all ties and EU meddling in British affairs and laws.

He came out yesterday and said the current plan is a good one for Britain, so he approves of it. At the same time he said, there are some negatives which he doesn’t like. EU countries will still be allowed to fish British waters for 6 years. But he said that’s a minor issue and the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Britain gets a FTD and will severe ties with EU which will no longer hold any powers over British law makers he said.

He said it’s been a long hard road but we are finally about to arrive at our destination. And the best thing is, it will put an end to the Brexit issue once and for all over so many years.

He is calling it a major victory for the UK and congratulated Boris after the doubts he had.

So it seems Farage is actually quite content. First time that has happened as the hard liner that he is. And the man has analysed every aspect of the deal.


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There’s going to be a cost to Britain on the long run by leaving the EU. Biggest will be Scotland leaving the Union little by little until fully becoming independent and once again joining the EU. Scotland will openly keep demanding independence, and the more the UK says “NO”, the more the Scotts will demand it. UK will not be United as the name would suggest, even without independence for Scotland in the short term. Northern Ireland too may become a candidate to leave the UK.

EU’s fishing rights in British waters is not just for 5 1/2 years. That is just a transitional period before another agreement would need to be signed or else Tariffs will be added on any fish sold in the EU from the UK. There are still other transitional periods in other areas of the deal too.

There will be many changes as time goes as more and more is understood with the Brexit agreement. Too early on day two of Brexit to know everything. As for Farage, he wanted a No Deal Brexit as well as all the hardliners. He can make all the hallowed victories as he wants to save face, but the truth is, he has failed and the EU/UK are still connected at the hips still to a degree. By how much, we will know more with time.

Oh, and let’s not forget about the deal on Gibraltar where it is to become part of the Schengen area with Spain. Frontex, a European Union agency will be in charge of Gibraltar’s sea and airport entry points.


Once the plans for CANZUK become clearer during this year, and what the goals actually are, Scotland will not be leaving any union. It will join a far larger union with another 4 countries to form a real global power. Scotland will join NZ. That alone will keep them in as NZ is Scotland’s sister.

As for the fishing industry. It’s for 5.5 years. At that time, Britain doesn’t need to do a thing as they shouldn’t even care if tariffs are added. Tariffs will also be added to EU fish, and Britain will easily be able to sell its fish with or without tariffs.

The demand for fish just won’t wane. We have an embargo in Australia and our fish still got sold. We even had an abundance on our local market which was really good.

Therefore, sovereignty seems to be in full.
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:32 pm

Oops! :D


The Telegraph
Spain will have last word who enters Gibraltar, says Foreign Minister

Jamie Johnson
Sat, January 2, 2021, 5:46 PM GMT+1

Spain will be able to decide who can enter Gibraltar under the terms of a post-Brexit deal, its Foreign Minister has said, sparking a furious response from the Territory’s Chief Minister.

Just hours before the UK formally left the EU a preliminary deal was struck which allows Gibraltar to join the Schengen zone, ensuring free movement of people and goods into the British Overseas Territory.

But in an interview with Spain’s El Pais newspaper, Foreign Minister Arancha González Laya said: “Schengen has a set of rules, procedures and instruments to apply them, including its database, to which only Spain has access. Gibraltar and the United Kingdom do not.

“In order to enter a Gibraltar integrated into the Schengen area, the responsibility for border control is in Spanish hands.

“That is why the final decision on who enters the Schengen area is Spanish, of course. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://news.yahoo.com/spain-last-word- ... 20008.html
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