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Re: 1974

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:37 pm

But before 1963, Bordo, your community was fighting to keep Cyprus as a colonial province of either Britain or Turkey. Werent they :roll:

Until 1963, a Turkish apatheid in Cyprus was OK wasnt it.

Your community was used, like a pawn to frame Cyprus and create the division we have today.

Your community also maintains it in collaboration with the illegal invader, because democracy is not good enough.

Now go complain on another thread about slavery and how the blacks are treated in America. :roll:

Then come back here and explain to everyone why apartheid, colonialism, theft of property and occupation in Cyprus is OK.

You are a waste of time.
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Re: 1974

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:39 pm

Maximus wrote:But before 1963, Bordo, your community was fighting to keep Cyprus as a colonial province of either Britain or Turkey. Werent they :roll:

Until 1963, a Turkish apatheid in Cyprus was OK wasnt it.

Your community was used, like a pawn to frame Cyprus and create the division we have today.

Your community also maintains it in collaboration with the illegal invader, because democracy is not good enough.

Now go complain on another thread about slavery and how the blacks are treated in America. :roll:

Then come back here and explain to everyone why apartheid, colonialism, theft of property and occupation in Cyprus is OK.

You are a waste of time.

Booooy you are bullshitting again. The mantra was the same before 1960 and after 1963.

Ya Taksim Ya olum. Division or death was what TMT wanted. At no point was there any claim for remaining under Britain or joining Turkey, like you wanted to join with Greece. In fact if you cunts asked for Independence instead of Enosis Plenty of TCs would have joined you and also would not have remained in the British Army to help them.

What saved your ass was the TCs demand of no enosis otherwise you would have been a carbuncle on Greece's backside you stupid cunt.

Theft of property you boys are experts at boooooooooooooooooy in 1963 you stole enough till Terrgy came in and gave you what for and took it back.

Now bugger off and go fornicate with your goat you stupid vosgosmeno.

Now back to the subject matter, you actually believe that 1974 was a trap and your own MPs and your own NG were all in on it right? Liek fuck it was, you stupified tsouro.

Yesterday was a revelation for me. I found another idiot just like you but from the TCs side. Just like you who do not belive any people who are now TCs were not in Cyprus before 1570, he did not believe there were any GCs in Cyprus before the Osmalis decided to unify Cyprus with their little empire.

Fancy having an idiot on both sides, but I think you win the idiocy race here. There is a lot more fuckers on your side with that idiotic notion than our little ol TC with his lack of knowledge.
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Re: 1974

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:12 pm

what was wrong with Enosis? That was the wish of the majority of Cypriots at the time. That is democracy and self determination. Just like the UK decided to join the EU and then leave.

Your problem is that you dont want the indigenous people of Cyprus to determine for themselves, the future of their island.

That TC guy isnt an idiot, he understands that his culture, language and religion only came to Cyprus during the Ottoman invasions post 1570. There are no historical artifacts pre dated in Cyprus before that to indicate that Turks are indigenous to these lands. None.

Turks came to Cyprus as invaders, converting people to Islam and supplanting an empire on existing nations and civilizations, long before Europeans colonized America and Australia.

Doesnt that make Turks the original colonialist's? :roll:

So the next time your heart bleeds for the blacks and indiginous people in America, and how bad the west is, think about what Turks did in eastern Europe, the middle east and north Africa long before that and continue to do to the people in the region today.
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Re: 1974

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:12 am

...indeed, then (more than 300 years ago) as now, Cyprus is a crossroad to three continents; Cypriots of all kinds can be found, (even as communities).

What the Ottoman's considered a backwater, a place of barracks with services, its People chattel, is no different today, within the territory they illegally occupy.

Cyprus grows. It grows exponentially since Free. Call it "Greek" and you would be mistaken because "Greekness" is no better than "Turkishness"; Cypriots, Greek and Turkish, know this all too well.

The facts have also shown that what Cypriots do and did as Cypriots for themselves, as facilitators of exchange, proves successful.

...nothing wrong with Enosis: but Cypriots must take back the word, bringing it forward actually from what they've learned from the past; what was torn by these two dogmas in Cyprus must be mended.
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Re: 1974

Postby Lordo » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:06 pm

Its just not true RW, Cyprus is not a cross roads to anywhere. It is a little back water tucked under Terggy which would have fallen into the hands of Greeks but for the effort of TCs oposing Enosis. The real value to be had was Egypt. Although Cyprus ended up like an aircraft carrier and a listening post for the fascists, but thats another story.

Interesting bit of real history is the fact that TCs were working with Akel which included Kavazoglu to fight the partitionists in 1963 till Akel decided to anounce that they supported Enosis. Every single TC withdrew they support for Akel except Kavazoglu and the fact that he did not withdrew his support for akel after the anouncement lead to his murder.
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Re: 1974

Postby Lordo » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:33 pm

Does anybody know what this fellow was tasked to do back in 1974?

Mihail Yorgitsis
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Re: 1974

Postby Lordo » Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:32 am

It is that special time of year onece again. For those in denial, this is worth watching. A real history lesson with all the actors taking part...


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Re: 1974

Postby Lordo » Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:40 am

About 5 minutes in Makarios claims that Turkey was controling the TCs to block the operation of government. This is simply not true.
First of all Makarios never implemented the constitution so Turkey did not even get a chance to interfere.
Second, it was Makarios who was trying to change the agreed constitution before it was even implemented through the back door using the tax laws.

The blame of 1963 falls fully on Makarios and his EKOA friends in the Government as well as the Greeks.

Here is another question.

How did we end up with Greek Military personnel in CNG when the President did not ask for it?
Who asked for it?
Who decided they should be in Cyprus and did Makarios not worry about what these people may get upto?
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Re: 1974

Postby Lordo » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:35 pm

Lordo wrote:Does anybody know what this fellow was tasked to do back in 1974?

Mihail Yorgitsis


So his name is mentioned as a coup leader 20 minutes into the clip
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Re: 1974

Postby Lordo » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:30 pm

Lordo wrote:It is that special time of year onece again. For those in denial, this is worth watching. A real history lesson with all the actors taking part...




So about 1 hour 5 minutes in Sampson claims that when he was in charge, GCs had taken 98% of Turkish Cypriot land. In we have people here who to this day claim that GCs did not harm TCs in anyway till after Turks invaded. How did thay take 98% of TC lands then?

So who exactly is not in denial here?
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