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Re: Is there god

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:43 am

Lordo wrote:Gravity is god, ...

Gravity is just a natural phenomenon that gives “weight” to all things having a mass.

It's just one of many natural phenomena including lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, wind, ice crystals, volcanic eruptions, and so forth.

While they’re all awesome they still remain nothing but properties that came along with the whole package, so it’s pretty dumb to assume that any of these are a God!

To assume that gravity is God is not much different to ancient paganism that worshiped the sun for a God.

I guess your evolution theories have also fallen flat, Lordo because your brain hasn’t evolved much from that of ancient pagans. :lol:
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:22 am

Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:Gravity is god, ...

Gravity is just a natural phenomenon that gives “weight” to all things having a mass.

It's just one of many natural phenomena including lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, wind, ice crystals, volcanic eruptions, and so forth.

While they’re all awesome they still remain nothing but properties that came along with the whole package, so it’s pretty dumb to assume that any of these are a God!

To assume that gravity is God is not much different to ancient paganism that worshiped the sun for a God.

I guess your evolution theories have also fallen flat, Lordo because your brain hasn’t evolved much from that of ancient pagans. :lol:

The issue here is you are blind to the obvious. Just like the old Belarussian leader who claimed there is no covid as he could not see it or smell it. If Gravity was red colour and smelled like rotten eggs I thionk you would be able to understand it.

Sure it is a natural as light and wind etc but all the other natural elements have not got the effect garavity has. Without gravity life could bot exist where without the wind and the sun life goes on nicely under the oceans gavole.

No wonder you could not hack it in two unies. It take a llot of of logic to survive in a learning establishment. The kind of logic you learn when avoiding eoga bullets.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:35 am

Lordo wrote:
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Lordo wrote:Gravity is god, ...

Gravity is just a natural phenomenon that gives “weight” to all things having a mass.

It's just one of many natural phenomena including lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, wind, ice crystals, volcanic eruptions, and so forth.

While they’re all awesome they still remain nothing but properties that came along with the whole package, so it’s pretty dumb to assume that any of these are a God!

To assume that gravity is God is not much different to ancient paganism that worshiped the sun for a God.

I guess your evolution theories have also fallen flat, Lordo because your brain hasn’t evolved much from that of ancient pagans. :lol:

The issue here is you are blind to the obvious. Just like the old Belarussian leader who claimed there is no covid as he could not see it or smell it. If Gravity was red colour and smelled like rotten eggs I thionk you would be able to understand it.

Sure it is a natural as light and wind etc but all the other natural elements have not got the effect garavity has. Without gravity life could bot exist where without the wind and the sun life goes on nicely under the oceans gavole.

No wonder you could not hack it in two unies. It take a llot of of logic to survive in a learning establishment. The kind of logic you learn when avoiding eoga bullets.

No I don’t agree with any of that… gravity is no more or less important than every other phenomenon.

Everything instilled in this universe is needed for the universe to exist in exactly the way that is does, and is in accordance with the designer’s specifications.

Gravity is influenced by other things such as electromagnetism so there’s no point in assuming that one property is more precious than the other.

Anyway, it’s not for us to figure out such things because we are nothing but mortal little plankton waiting for our turn to die and make way for other little plankton.

So do try and be a good boy, lest the good lord of the universe leaves you out of his list of chosen ones, if you are to discover some of his secrets in an “afterlife” of some sort.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:54 am

Lordo wrote:Sure it is a natural as light and wind etc but all the other natural elements have not got the effect garavity has. Without gravity life could bot exist where without the wind and the sun life goes on nicely under the oceans gavole.
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Except, gravity has virtually zero affect on all living things in the ocean as long as they are in the water. :wink:
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:56 am

Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:Gravity is god, ...

Gravity is just a natural phenomenon that gives “weight” to all things having a mass.

It's just one of many natural phenomena including lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, wind, ice crystals, volcanic eruptions, and so forth.

While they’re all awesome they still remain nothing but properties that came along with the whole package, so it’s pretty dumb to assume that any of these are a God!

To assume that gravity is God is not much different to ancient paganism that worshiped the sun for a God.

I guess your evolution theories have also fallen flat, Lordo because your brain hasn’t evolved much from that of ancient pagans. :lol:

The issue here is you are blind to the obvious. Just like the old Belarussian leader who claimed there is no covid as he could not see it or smell it. If Gravity was red colour and smelled like rotten eggs I thionk you would be able to understand it.

Sure it is a natural as light and wind etc but all the other natural elements have not got the effect garavity has. Without gravity life could bot exist where without the wind and the sun life goes on nicely under the oceans gavole.

No wonder you could not hack it in two unies. It take a llot of of logic to survive in a learning establishment. The kind of logic you learn when avoiding eoga bullets.

No I don’t agree with any of that… gravity is no more or less important than every other phenomenon.

Everything instilled in this universe is needed for the universe to exist in exactly the way that is does, and is in accordance with the designer’s specifications.

Gravity is influenced by other things such as electromagnetism so there’s no point in assuming that one property is more precious than the other.

Anyway, it’s not for us to figure out such things because we are nothing but mortal little plankton waiting for our turn to die and make way for other little plankton.

So do try and be a good boy, lest the good lord of the universe leaves you out of his list of chosen ones, if you are to discover some of his secrets in an “afterlife” of some sort.

No my friend. The universe started as a gas cloud and it is gravity that formed the galaxies, solar systems, suns and planets and beyond to life itself. Especially if we find out that it was meteors that created life due to heating on entry.

Without gravity on earth there cannot be life. Where as I already explained without the sun and wind life can exist. Life can also exist without even water as another element can be used instead for the transportation of food for life. it need not be carbon based either, it can be based on another element in the group that carbon belongs to like silicon. Infact we here on earth have based our IT systems on silicon.

So you see whilest life can exist without any one of the other elements, life cannot exist without gravity.

It really is not rocket science. Is it?

The problem you have is that the Church who wanted to control people invented a god and actaully did their best to stop people learning the real nature of life. This is a real event.

Four centuries ago on February 16, 1600, the Roman Catholic Church executed Giordano Bruno, Italian philosopher and scientist, for the crime of heresy. He was taken from his cell in the early hours of the morning to the Piazza dei Fiori in Rome and burnt alive at the stake. To the last, the Church authorities were fearful of the ideas of a man who was known throughout Europe as a bold and brilliant thinker. In a peculiar twist to the gruesome affair, the executioners were ordered to tie his tongue so that he would be unable to address those gathered.

Throughout his life Bruno championed the Copernican system of astronomy which placed the sun, not the Earth, at the centre of the solar system. He opposed the stultifying authority of the Church and refused to recant his philosophical beliefs throughout his eight years of imprisonment by the Venetian and Roman Inquisitions. His life stands as a testimony to the drive for knowledge and truth that marked the astonishing period of history known as the Renaissance—from which so much in modern art, thought and science derives.

In 1992, after 12 years of deliberations, the Roman Catholic Church grudgingly admitted that Galileo Galilei had been right in supporting the theories of Copernicus. The Holy Inquisition had forced an aged Galileo to recant his ideas under threat of torture in 1633. But no such admission has been made in the case of Bruno. His writings are still on the Vatican's list of forbidden texts.

The Church is currently considering a new batch of apologies. A theological commission headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the modern successor of the Inquisition, has completed an inquiry entitled "The Church and the Faults of the Past: Memory in the Service of Reconciliation", which proposes making an apology for "past errors". The results have been handed to Pope John Paul II, who is due to make a statement on March 12. The execution of Bruno is one of the church's crimes being considered but it is unlikely that major concessions will be made in his case. A number of hard-line Catholic figures have opposed the investigation from the outset, saying that excessive penitence and self-questioning could undermine faith in the Church and its institutions.

The current attitude of the Roman Catholic Church to Bruno is defined by a two-page entry in the latest edition of the Catholic Encyclopaedia. It describes Bruno's "intolerance" and berates him, declaring "his attitude of mind towards religious truth was that of a rationalist”. The article describes in detail Bruno's theological errors and his lengthy detention at the hands of the Inquisition, but fails to mention the best-known fact—that the church authorities burnt him alive at the stake.

Bruno has long been revered as a martyr to scientific truth. In 1889 a monument to him was erected at the location of his execution. Such was the feeling for Bruno that scientists and poets paid tribute to him and a book was written detailing his life's work. In a dedication for a meeting held at the Contemporary Club in Philadelphia in 1890, American poet Walt Whitman wrote: "As America's mental courage (the thought comes to me today) is so indebted, above all current lands and peoples, to the noble army of old-world martyrs past, how incumbent on us that we clear those martyrs' lives and names, and hold them up for reverent admiration as well as beacons. And typical of this, and standing for it and all perhaps, Giordano Bruno may well be put, today and to come, in our New World's thankfulest heart and memory."
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Re: Is there god

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:11 pm

Lordo wrote:The unuverse started as a gas cloud and it is gravity that formed the galaxies, solar systems, suns and planets and beyond life.

Nobody knows how the universe started and those that claim they do are nothing but clowns manufacturing stories to impress idiots like you.

Lordo wrote:Without gravity on earth there cannot be life. Where as I already explained without the sun and wind life can exist.

Well you were dead wrong about that too, but I'm not gonna waste my time with a buffoon.

When are you gonna acknowledge your mediocrity by admitting that you’re just an amoeba in this universe, climb off your high horse and accept that you haven’t got a clue about anything out there?

The day you manage that will be the day when your education begins... for the more you know the more you realize how little you know!
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Re: Is there god

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:47 pm

Mankind is not privy to the secrets of the cosmos and we need to acknowledge that as well as our severe limitations which prevent us from knowing such things.

For example, there are not enough mathematics and physics on this planet that enable one to calculate the age of the universe, so don’t believe such garbage if you come across such figures. Such things cannot ever be computed.

Neither have we got a clue how big the universe is so again, don’t believe such garbage if you come across any such claims.

It helps to be aware of what can and cannot be computed by mankind, so as not to get fooled by all these con artists pretending to have all the answers and presenting it as “science”.

Man’s science is EXTREMELY limited to things we can see and do on this planet and a little bit around it, but don’t be fooled by those who claim to have the answers to that which is impossible.

What you are seeing in countless “science” documentaries are nothing but THEORIES manufactured by fools who overestimate their intelligence and present it as “science”.

As a species we are so dumb that we even have “cosmologists” who claim to be experts on matters pertaining to the universe! :?

How the fuck can anyone claim be an expert on the universe when the farthest they’ve ever traveled was when they caught a plane from NY to Osaka?

Wake up and start using your heads… all of you!
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:50 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:Sure it is a natural as light and wind etc but all the other natural elements have not got the effect garavity has. Without gravity life could bot exist where without the wind and the sun life goes on nicely under the oceans gavole.
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Except, gravity has virtually zero affect on all living things in the ocean as long as they are in the water. :wink:

Next thing you will be telling me is the birds are not affected by Gravity. You know very well when a whale dies it sinks to the bottom and becomes food for other creatures. Sure there is other forces in play in the water. I never said gravity is the greatest force. In fact it is quite weak but it influnces hugely life.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:Mankind is not privy to the secrets of the cosmos and we need to acknowledge that as well as our severe limitations which prevent us from knowing such things.

For example, there are not enough mathematics and physics on this planet that enable one to calculate the age of the universe, so don’t believe such garbage if you come across such figures. Such things cannot ever be computed.

Neither have we got a clue how big the universe is so again, don’t believe such garbage if you come across any such claims.

It helps to be aware of what can and cannot be computed by mankind, so as not to get fooled by all these con artists pretending to have all the answers and presenting it as “science”.

Man’s science is EXTREMELY limited to things we can see and do on this planet and a little bit around it, but don’t be fooled by those who claim to have the answers to that which is impossible.

What you are seeing in countless “science” documentaries are nothing but THEORIES manufactured by fools who overestimate their intelligence and present it as “science”.

As a species we are so dumb that we even have “cosmologists” who claim to be experts on matters pertaining to the universe! :?

How the fuck can anyone claim be an expert on the universe when the farthest they’ve ever traveled was when they caught a plane from NY to Osaka?

Wake up and start using your heads… all of you!

Mankind is not privy to one thing in the cosmos and that is where does all this gas comes from. Once we know that we shall have al lthe answers. I have no doubt that blackholes are responsible for the creation of gas and creating other universes but the ultimate questions are when and where and how did this gas come about. I am sure I am not responsible as I produce enough of the natural gas of my own and it is not even explained by even your existance GR as you produce more than most.
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Re: Is there god

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:55 pm

GR let me introduce you to a new idea. It may open your eyes some and then some more.

https://hubblesite.org/
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