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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:17 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...i am guessing of course, but are they thinking about a BBF?.


...and why not?
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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby Lordo » Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:09 pm

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repulsewarrior wrote:...i am guessing of course, but are they thinking about a BBF?.


...and why not?

You serious? You think Taliban will share power?

BBF requires elections. You reckom Taliban will hold elections anytime soon?
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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:20 am

...maybe, at the constituent level at least.

Same Problem: they are all equals as Individuals, having a State where the Human condition is secured for all of them. And they have their distinct identities as Persons.

...it may be that the Taliban have come to realise that they can change the world by their integration, because they may demonstrate with it the capacity God expects of them; love.
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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby Lordo » Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...maybe, at the constituent level at least.

Same Problem: they are all equals as Individuals, having a State where the Human condition is secured for all of them. And they have their distinct identities as Persons.

...it may be that the Taliban have come to realise that they can change the world by their integration, because they may demonstrate with it the capacity God expects of them; love.

Buuuuulshit RW. The other day couple of ladies were walking in the street and were stopped and asked where their husbands were. Till thier husbands were contacted and arrived at the scene they were not allowed to go anywhere. it is time the world realised this form of rules is unaccpetable no matter where it is, Afghanistan to Saudi and everywhere else in between. And finally took action to remedy it rather then pander to them becasue of the resources they may be having.
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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:10 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...maybe, at the constituent level at least.

Same Problem: they are all equals as Individuals, having a State where the Human condition is secured for all of them. And they have their distinct identities as Persons.

...it may be that the Taliban have come to realise that they can change the world by their integration, because they may demonstrate with it the capacity God expects of them; love.


Unless you are a moderate Muslim, Shia or a woman.

Or you don’t abide by their rules, like have a beard, pray all day, listen to music.

Taliban is not some kind of virtuous organisation that respects people that do not follow their line. They are terrorists at their core who freed Al Qaeda prisoners as well.

But they may be getting the due, from an organisation much worst than them - ISIS

That’s probably the only good thing. is that they will be busy fighting each other. But sad for the people of Afghanistan left behind to deal with all that crap.
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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:15 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...maybe, at the constituent level at least.

Same Problem: they are all equals as Individuals, having a State where the Human condition is secured for all of them. And they have their distinct identities as Persons.

...it may be that the Taliban have come to realise that they can change the world by their integration, because they may demonstrate with it the capacity God expects of them; love.


If we have come to the point where we are expecting the Taliban to change the world then I’m sorry to say, you have lost it.

These Taliban are not like anything we are use to in Canada, Australia or Cyprus. They are backward scum and terrorists.

I can’t believe America let them have a free for all. There should be no greater pleasure than to completely keep these Neanderthals in the shadows, in their caves or within the targeting scopes of a killer Predator Drones to send them off to heaven with Allah and their 72 virgins where they belong.

And ISIS too.

America had a duty to do this. If they can use their intelligence to track vans with explosives then they should be chasing them all through the regions of Afghanistan and sending Hellfire missiles up their ass.
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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:27 pm

And poor India that will now need to deal with the possibility of having the Taliban and their Chy-nese, Pakistani cohorts along their borders.

America failed miserably and did the wrong thing on so many levels and now so many countries like India have to deal with a massive mess, not to mention the fact that the average Afghan, which is a highly developed abs fairly liberal race of liberal, will now have to deal with these fanatics.

The Afghans I know in Australia are generally not a fundamentalist Islamic people. The women live in dignity and even go to the beach doing all the normal things western women do. And they are attractive girls too.
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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby Lordo » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:09 pm

It seems the Northern Alliance is satanding upto Taliban and Taliban attack them at their peril. The fight can only get bigger for each day that passes and others may join then in elswhere to attack and weaken the Taliban control.

I wish them good luck. Lets hope they do to them what they did to the Russians and the Americans.

If TCs could hold on and stop the advances of the GCs back in 1963 and keep them out of enclaves, I am sure these brave people will fight off the Taliban and keep them out of their land.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/we-will-always-resist-the-taliban-why-afghanistan-s-panjshir-valley-is-so-hard-to-conquer/ar-AAO7lGU?ocid=entnewsntp
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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:32 pm

...indeed my point, Lordo. Minorities can hold a lot of power, moreso in a country like Afghanistan where the Taliban do not amount to an overwhelming majority, compared to the rest of the population.

The Taliban have power now, but the question is how long can they hold on to that power; a lot depends on what they do.

...let's remember that forty years ago their children were shipped out of the country through no choice of their own; and they returned to be the defenders of Afghanistan against the Russians. Americans in that regard are not that much different to them; invaders. But, in the process, exposed to the world's gaze and concern, they may have learned something that makes it possible for them to see things differently, as things are.
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Re: Turkish Soldiers in Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:53 pm

Lordo wrote:It seems the Northern Alliance is satanding upto Taliban and Taliban attack them at their peril. The fight can only get bigger for each day that passes and others may join then in elswhere to attack and weaken the Taliban control.

I wish them good luck. Lets hope they do to them what they did to the Russians and the Americans.

If TCs could hold on and stop the advances of the GCs back in 1963 and keep them out of enclaves, I am sure these brave people will fight off the Taliban and keep them out of their land.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/we-will-always-resist-the-taliban-why-afghanistan-s-panjshir-valley-is-so-hard-to-conquer/ar-AAO7lGU?ocid=entnewsntp


The Northern Alliance was always an American ally and puppet. The Americans supplied them with arms throughout the 80s to fight the Russians. They even had CIA operatives among them. They had everything, including Stinger missiles which were very effective against Russian aircraft.

But unknown to the CIA at the time, Northern Alliance also included Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden which split from the group in 1986. Then they started to attack America from then on leading up to Sept 11

Well the Americans knew of Osama Bin Laden but thought he was an ally too at the time.

Probably, the Americans are going to do exactly what they did in the 80s. Supply and support Northern Alliance covertly through the CIA to destabilise the Taliban and fight ISIS
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