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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:35 pm

Lordo wrote: Interestingly Makarios Drousiotis also wrote extensively about American activities in Europe which is also the root of the Cyprus Problem. It is time some of members here watched this too. They will get a real education.

The problem is that those that should be watching these informed people giving an explanation of events ...... are the ones that will not watch them! They don't like the message so they just ignore it1 :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:39 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Lordo wrote: Interestingly Makarios Drousiotis also wrote extensively about American activities in Europe which is also the root of the Cyprus Problem. It is time some of members here watched this too. They will get a real education.

The problem is that those that should be watching these informed people giving an explanation of events ...... are the ones that will not watch them! They don't like the message so they just ignore it1 :roll:

That is why we are in such a mess. The same thing applies to the political leaders.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:43 pm

Ring, ring.....................................ring, ring...........................click. "Hi, Paphitis here. Not many people know this but I'm not in da house right now. Please leave your messages after the tone." Beeeeeeeeeep! Click. :D
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:01 pm

Londonrake wrote:Ring, ring.....................................ring, ring...........................click. "Hi, Paphitis here. Not many people know this but I'm not in da house right now. Please leave your messages after the tone." Beeeeeeeeeep! Click. :D

You mean to tell me you do not have the intelligence to listen to something and pick holes in the substances?
Wow and double wow.

Tell us what is wrong with what is being said?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:08 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Noam Chomsky on air. Crystal clear brains for his age.



I watched this today and it was absolutely fantastic how this 94 year old can still have such clarity in his thinking, and with sharp memory to go with it. It makes most world leaders look brain dead on the Ukraine-Russia war next to this guy, not to mention few on here too! :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:24 pm

The other day I was watching a video where the presenter said that Yevgeny Prigozhin - the chief of Wagner Group when asked how long will it take for this war to end he said: "It depends what the Russians want. If they want to only take the Donbas it will take 1.5 years. If they want to take all the area to the East of Dnipro river (which is basically almost half of Ukraine they will need 3 years.
Shouldn't this make headlines in Western Media? I did search but found nothing... any info from anyone in here?

He also said that Wagner stopped recruiting prisoners. The reason is that under the law their contact is only for 6 months after which they are free to go.
Now he said they they are recruiting from abroad, in fact they received 10 million applications from the USA alone!!! Anyone heard of that?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:08 pm

I heard of this on the Duran channel, so I thought of checking it out.
Yep it's true, most of the frozen Russian assets have already been washed out. :D :D :D
While of course the Western Banks and firms are still exposed by 290bn inside Russia.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/eu-urged-to ... -1.1881709

https://www.republicworld.com/world-new ... eshow.html

Link to the Duran video--->

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFaSzogalV0
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:00 pm

Lets face it, it makes no difference when the war stops, the result will be the same, While before the war, Ukrainians would have remained as one country with autonomous regions where the Russian speakers are, because of the war, they will now get a chance to join Russia if they choose to do so and the rest of Ukraine will have to stay non-aligned. There is no way the Russians will accept Nato bases of any kind in Ukraine no matter who comes to power in Russia.
The Americans played Russian roulette with the Ukrainians pulling the trigger thinking they can defeat Russia and clearly the sanctions were never going to be as effective as they imagined.

Game is over. The sooner the Ukrainian people realise this and kick out Zalizmenos the better they will come out of it. But I suspect this nationalism poison rammed down their throat has put them into a deep sleep from which may take them a long time to realise what's what.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:37 am

Do you remember Arestovich, ElenSky's chief advisor who resigned? Back in mid 2022 he gave a surprising -to me at least- interview where he said the leadership in Ukraine despises the people, because they are stupid, stubborn, mostly uneducated, etc etc. Then some day I heard
of this widespread belief in Ukraine, that the Americans are going to give each family that lost a father/son/husband in this war, 1 million dollars. And they all believe it and very happy about it!! At that time I realized how right Arestovich was .

I honestly don't believe the people of Ukraine will ever realize what's going on, and rise to kick out Zalismenos. They are all children.

Whatever will happen to them will be decided by the Americans...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:50 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Do you remember Arestovich, ElenSky's chief advisor who resigned? Back in mid 2022 he gave a surprising -to me at least- interview where he said the leadership in Ukraine despises the people, because they are stupid, stubborn, mostly uneducated, etc etc. Then some day I heard
of this widespread belief in Ukraine, that the Americans are going to give each family that lost a father/son/husband in this war, 1 million dollars. And they all believe it and very happy about it!! At that time I realized how right Arestovich was .

I honestly don't believe the people of Ukraine will ever realize what's going on, and rise to kick out Zalismenos. They are all children.

Whatever will happen to them will be decided by the Americans...

Americans do have a point to which beyond they will not go and will abandon the Ukrainians just like they did to the Iraqis and Afghans too.
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