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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:51 am

If you want to understand Ukrainian war, follow the money.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:12 am

Evening bitches! A very tired paphitis is in da house. :lol:

How I wasn't missed that much bitches. I di try to read all the crap here, just for comical reasons. I even showed my training Captain some posts from Pyro and Kicks, when we were discussing disinformation and anti Americaniism and Anti NATO hysteria after we were talking about Australia getting Virginia Class Nuclear Submarines from USA as a stop gap for the British Astute Class Nuclear Submarines. Then to Cyprus. Oh yes, a military man and Iraqi War vet bitches who knows what he is talking about and a very good person to boot, and a great aviator and mentor and friend who is now in charge of taking my career in the US to the next level. Just a few of the things we aviators talk about.

We had some fun the other day as well, when on take of we flew into some vortices or wake turbulence on take off and had a massive engine surge from our number 2. But we handled it well and regained control from our inadvertent wing over and potential flame out on number 2.

So bitches. My last interlude included a wayward post from me that landed in the wrong thread. I guess the GPS guidance system had a massive failure that day and just landed in the wrong thread. A bit like a Ruzzian Missile that land on civilian apartment buildings.

So, any news from Bakhmut bitches? Has Bakhmut fallen yet? No! Nevermind bitches.

It appears that the Ukrainian Military will be holding on for as long as they can. They are having a good time killing hundreds of Ruzzians each day. To retreat from these defended positions will result in them not being able to kill so many Ruzzians. It may also be the case that the Ukrainian Military command may not retreat at all and even go into siege. Supply would still be possible from the Air as the Ruzzian military is so stupid and incapable to defend against that even. Ukraine was supplying Mariupol for weeks with Mi-8 Helicopters running the gauntlet and they did that successfully.

Apparently, military Strategists may very well think that 5000 Ukrainians is well worth Ruzzia losing another 50,000 "soldiers" (I use the term very loosely). It's hard being a military leader bitches, with all that weight on your soldiers. But the 5000 Ukrainians know what they must do. And they will do it with honour and for their country and people. May God bless them all.

So bitches. Bakhmut hasn't fallen yet. And something tells me bitches, that Bakhmut will never fall. We shall see bitches.

Oh what a laughing stock Ruzzia is. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:21 am

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Kikapu wrote:Excellent responses from the Russian Foreign Minister.

He was able to take control of the discussion and over the Indian presenter of the forum and his uninformed (playing dumb) questions. :D :D :D


The presenter was both clueless and biased, which makes me think this "Raisina Dialogue" which invites hundreds of speakers every time, is just another American funded and controlled 'think tank". The audience seemed a bit more informed though, considering their only 2 questions

As for the presenter's pledge to Lavrov to promise meeting again, Lavrov's response says it all: "The Americans will certainly suggest some questions which you can use then". :mrgreen:


Oh aren't you a silly bitch.

Yes the US has trade relations with India but to say the US influences the Indians to such an extent is delusional when the Ruzzians are selling cheap as chips Gas to the Indians, and the Indians are laughing all the way to the Bank as they can on sell at a massive profit. In fact, they can fleece Ruzzia by buying cheap as chips, to the point it is much cheaper than them producing their own. India and Chy-na, are fucking Ruzzia up.

But, what Indians feel along with most of the civil world, is that Ruzzia has invaded another country illegally, and is committing war crimes. The crowd broke in laughter when Lavrov said the war was waged against them and they are trying to stop it. Who wouldn't laugh? The whole world laughed actually. They entire world because it is laughable and complete nonsense!

Amerika is not responsible for Ruzzia making a fool of itself.

And Amerika can just sit back and revel in all the validation it is getting from the entire world. Because EVERYONE wants to be Amerika's friend, and every European Nation wants to joing NATO.

Everyone is right behind Ukraine because Ukraine is the victim against illegal Ruzzian aggression.

India and Chy-na know it as well. Deep down, everyone knows it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:28 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Another terrorist detained in Transnistria.
looks like Ukraine is desperate in escalating the war to neighboring countries hoping to be saved by Nato.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1633765981850939393
https://twitter.com/i/status/1633788318767775745


Yes bitch, Transnistria is next. And yes, Ukraine and Moldova would be stupid not to do this NOW. But first thing is first. Ukraine Military needs to send its resources to defend Ukraine and liberate the occupied areas. They will do it too and they are winning. Once the land bridge is cut and Ruzzia is in total disarray, and they have some resources in reserve after that, and only after that, may they consider diverting a few thousand to the Moldovan Borders in collaboration with the Moldovan Military and Government. Then you may witness a 3 to 7 day special military operation for real, that would actually last just 3 to 7 days, and not a couple of years or more.

Brace yourself bitch! The but hurt will be immense. You won't be able to walk for a very long time.

And Moldova is applying to join NATO. Smart move on their part. And the whole world recognises that this war can only end with a Ukrainian victory. The entire world has never been so unified. Nato has never been so unified, with its partners like ANZUS. The west is ready bitch, even ready for Nuclear War if need be.

Everyone is preparing for it, and ready for the end of The Ruzzian Federation as we all know it. You started this, and now there is a big and hefty price to pay and the world can't afford for Ukraine not to win this and see this through to the very end, where Ruzzia will be signing its surrender on the USS Nmitiz.

Everyone hates Ruzzia. You might need to assess why this is the case bitch. Yoiu are witnessing the Ruzzian demise and collapse before your very eyes.

And Amerika isn't going to step in and stop it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:39 am

Kikapu wrote:
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I am sure we have all by now have seen the above photo of the alleged Ukrainian unarmed soldier getting murdered whilst smoking a cigarette by the Russians. I don’t know about you guys, but the skeptic in me is having a hard time buying this story knowing how well Zelensky and his Merry Nazi Men has used propaganda masterfully in this war.

Let’s examine few of the details told in the anti Russia propaganda press.

1. Why would a Russian soldier murder a prisoner of no threat and then release the video. Makes no sense.
2. Whenever have we seen a prisoner of war be allowed to wander around leisurely whilst having a cigarette as if he was in Central Park or something. It does not happen.
3. This alleged prisoner seems to be all alone. Where are his fellow captured soldiers or was he fighting this war alone in this area? Makes no sense.

Allegedly a Russian speaking person (most Ukrainians speak Russian) told the soldier “Die Bitch” and shot him after the soldier saying “Glory to Ukraine”. Apparently it is only a 12 seconds video. How convenient to select just 12 seconds to release showing only what the Ukrainians wants us to see. Where is the rest of the video which may tell us more what really happened and who may have murdered him? What man would call another man a “bitch”. Well, Paphitis does it all the time, but that’s a another matter.

This is what I think has happened to this murdered Ukrainian soldier. I believe he was murdered by one of the Nazis Zelensky sent to the front line to keep his forces fighting the Russians despite thousands dying for little purpose. This Ukrainian soldier may have had enough of the fighting and just wandered off without his weapon and kept on going smoking a cigarette. At some point he was stopped by the Ukrainian forces and was ordered back to the front line. He refused and he was shot as a coward and a traitor. Voices can easily be edited to the video. :wink:

Zelensky needs reasons for his forces to keep fighting and dying, so this murdered Ukrainian soldiers plays well in his propaganda playbook and the collective West who are culprits to this war are helping him to propagate the propaganda.


He was a captured Ukrainian soldier who kept shouting Slava Ukraine even as a captured POW. Defiant to the end.

And then he was executed at close range.

Nothing that Ruzzia does makes any sense. Even the Ruzzian attack on Bakhmut makes no sense. At least makes no sense to western military or NATO military doctrine. There is no way in hell any western military will send any of its military units in and lose virtually all its soldiers to achieve an objective which is so not worth it for the losses.

The closest any military came to this was Amerika, when it went into an urbanised war scenario when they were going into Faluja. And they only lost about 140 soldiers. All in the space of about 3 days.

Which is why the west generally avoids these types of scenarios.

When we lose soldiers, we carry on liked porked chops. And so we should because our soldiers are valued and so too the families left behind. Henceforth, we in the west place an extreme amount of value on life itself. It's not a commodity and our Governments are elected and accountable every time they send their military in harms way and every soldier who comes back in a body bag is divulged and every family will get a proper military funeral, and each family will get the soldier's medals and the sacred flag afterwards and every family will receive every state assistance for their loss because that person sacrificed for the country.

Ruzzia, Amerika and the west in general (EU and others) are poles apart from the Ruzzians. We are comparing civilization to barbarism. The west is the civilization, just like Rome in the past, only better and more evolved.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:49 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
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I am sure we have all by now have seen the above photo of the alleged Ukrainian unarmed soldier getting murdered whilst smoking a cigarette by the Russians. I don’t know about you guys, but the skeptic in me is having a hard time buying this story knowing how well Zelensky and his Merry Nazi Men has used propaganda masterfully in this war.

Let’s examine few of the details told in the anti Russia propaganda press.

1. Why would a Russian soldier murder a prisoner of no threat and then release the video. Makes no sense.
2. Whenever have we seen a prisoner of war be allowed to wander around leisurely whilst having a cigarette as if he was in Central Park or something. It does not happen.
3. This alleged prisoner seems to be all alone. Where are his fellow captured soldiers or was he fighting this war alone in this area? Makes no sense.

Allegedly a Russian speaking person (most Ukrainians speak Russian) told the soldier “Die Bitch” and shot him after the soldier saying “Glory to Ukraine”. Apparently it is only a 12 seconds video. How convenient to select just 12 seconds to release showing only what the Ukrainians wants us to see. Where is the rest of the video which may tell us more what really happened and who may have murdered him? What man would call another man a “bitch”. Well, Paphitis does it all the time, but that’s a another matter.

This is what I think has happened to this murdered Ukrainian soldier. I believe he was murdered by one of the Nazis Zelensky sent to the front line to keep his forces fighting the Russians despite thousands dying for little purpose. This Ukrainian soldier may have had enough of the fighting and just wandered of without his weapon and kept on going smoking a cigarette. At some point he was stopped by the Ukrainian forces and was ordered back to the front line. He refused and he was shot as a coward and a traitor. Voices can easily be edited to the video. :wink:

Zelensky needs reasons for his forces to keep fighting and dying, so this murdered Ukrainian soldiers plays well in his propaganda playbook and the collective West who are culprits to this war are helping him to propagate the propaganda.


Unfortunately Kiks it's not fake.
The Russian soldier had him pointed urging him to surrender telling him he has nothing to be afraid of, but he wouldn't. The Russian soldier tried to convince him telling him "why do you think we gave you a cigarette?" At that point the Ukrainian turned to the Russian provoking him in an audacious manner shouting "Slava Ukraine". Then it was all over...
There are many videos in Telegram, I will find one and post it later.

The modern helmets the Ukrainians and Russians use, have a camera on top and record everything.
Both sides send horrific video scenes to various channels most of them from helmet cameras, other from mobile phones.


The Turkish Soldiers gave 4 Greek Cypriot CNG servicemen a cigarette. One of them was my wife's relative from Kythrea. They were all kneeled down and a Turkish Soldier was photographed giving them a cigarette and even offering a light.

As they were kneeled down, they were executed, presumably after they were given enough time to enjoy their last cigarette.

The body of my wife's relative was exhumed only a few years ago and offered a state funeral. Everyone was at the funeral, including the President, the most senior CNG Officers and all leaders of every single political party in Cyprus.

Stop talking shit!

People get shot for all kinds of reasons and war crimes are committed. Even the Australian SAS got in a lot of trouble when a video was leaked from the MoD showing one of their soldiers executing a young Afghan at point blank. Why they did that, I have no idea. It wasn't exactly one of Australia's finest moments. But that soldier will be held accountable and faces Murder 1 charges before the Australian Justice System.

This is what differentiates the west from Ruzzia. Accountability, Law, and Justice.

Soldiers face snap decisions sometimes and a lot of pressure. For example, there was an incident where the Australian SAS in Afghanistan set up an observation post with snipers, and only 1500m away, the local village held by the Taliban was executing a young 14 year old girl by stoning for whatever reason. The Australian Commander called the incident in to Joint Command in Kabul. The Australian Commander asked to go green and engage a group of civilians that were surrounding the girl with the Imam and other officials before they were going to brutally murder her. The request was denied.

But I can tell you that the Australian Commander was heavily conflicted and ordered his snipers to release their safety and take aim at the Imam and some other Taliban officials. That would almost be considered a war crime.

Also bitch, Ukraine does not have second line soldiers killing retreating Ukrainians. The entire doctrine of the Ukrainian Military is for them to execute their missions but to also survive. Ukraine has on every single occasion even ordered the retreat of its forces to secondary lines of defence that were even preprepared for for the eventual retreat because Ukraine will never sacrifice its manpower on something that is hopeless and suicidal to their soldiers. The who mentality revolves around causing Ruzzia the maximum amount if damage and losses whilst limiting their own losses as much as possible and they are doing a great job.

The reason why Ukrainian losses are so much lower than Ruzzian Soldiers is because Ukrainian Soldiers are dug in to very heavily fortified defensive positions, and the Ruzzians need to come out and cross fields toi attack them. It's like harvesting wheat with Ruzzia losing dozens of men with each wave and Ukraine barely losing anyone.

You who purports himself to know what you are talking about should have worked it out but you are too stupid.

In the Battle of Long Tan, 147 Australian Soldiers in a heavily fortified position on top of a hill were responsible for killing more than 3500 VC in the space of 24 hours as they launched wave after wave of suicidal attacks on the Australian positions which they had almost surrounded.

Australian loses were 37 KIA. And more than 3500 VC KIA. Well that was the ammount of bodies the Aussies counted afterwards when they were mopping up.

This is the reason why Ukraine could be hesitant about withdrawing from Bakhmut and go into siege. Opportunities to kill thousands of Ruzzians in a very short time from well prepared defensive strongholds don't just come up every day.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:58 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
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I am sure we have all by now have seen the above photo of the alleged Ukrainian unarmed soldier getting murdered whilst smoking a cigarette by the Russians. I don’t know about you guys, but the skeptic in me is having a hard time buying this story knowing how well Zelensky and his Merry Nazi Men has used propaganda masterfully in this war.

Let’s examine few of the details told in the anti Russia propaganda press.

1. Why would a Russian soldier murder a prisoner of no threat and then release the video. Makes no sense.
2. Whenever have we seen a prisoner of war be allowed to wander around leisurely whilst having a cigarette as if he was in Central Park or something. It does not happen.
3. This alleged prisoner seems to be all alone. Where are his fellow captured soldiers or was he fighting this war alone in this area? Makes no sense.

Allegedly a Russian speaking person (most Ukrainians speak Russian) told the soldier “Die Bitch” and shot him after the soldier saying “Glory to Ukraine”. Apparently it is only a 12 seconds video. How convenient to select just 12 seconds to release showing only what the Ukrainians wants us to see. Where is the rest of the video which may tell us more what really happened and who may have murdered him? What man would call another man a “bitch”. Well, Paphitis does it all the time, but that’s a another matter.

This is what I think has happened to this murdered Ukrainian soldier. I believe he was murdered by one of the Nazis Zelensky sent to the front line to keep his forces fighting the Russians despite thousands dying for little purpose. This Ukrainian soldier may have had enough of the fighting and just wandered off without his weapon and kept on going smoking a cigarette. At some point he was stopped by the Ukrainian forces and was ordered back to the front line. He refused and he was shot as a coward and a traitor. Voices can easily be edited to the video. :wink:

Zelensky needs reasons for his forces to keep fighting and dying, so this murdered Ukrainian soldiers plays well in his propaganda playbook and the collective West who are culprits to this war are helping him to propagate the propaganda.


He was a captured Ukrainian soldier who kept shouting Slava Ukraine even as a captured POW. Defiant to the end.

And then he was executed at close range.

Nothing that Ruzzia does makes any sense..


How do you explain that there is only one Ukrainian soldier captured by the Russians?

Where are rest of his company?

I remember very well you telling us and posting a picture many years ago about your wife’s relative and others getting murdered by the Turks in the similar fashion in Cyprus. But you see, that makes sense how that happened. All four were held in one place whilst smoking, but the Ukrainian soldier was alone and wandering around with a cigarette. I am not saying he was not murdered by the Russians. I am saying he could have been murdered by Zelensky’s Nazi goons as well if he refused to fight the Russians.

One needs to have an open mind by whom this soldier was murdered.

I have an open mind!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:48 am

Paphitis wrote:Oh aren't you a silly bitch.



Nobody can ever match your stupidity hitchy beachy poutanitsa.
How many tons of nonsense have you poured out today?
Oh never mind, I don't read past your first line anymore... I promise to reduce it to zero.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:02 am

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/08/worl ... raine.html

Kevin McCarthy turns down Zelensky’s invitation to visit Kyiv to see how U.S. aid is spent.

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In an interview with CNN, the Ukrainian leader had said the House speaker should go see firsthand what’s happening.


March 8, 2023

Speaker Kevin McCarthy on Wednesday declined an invitation to visit Ukraine from President Volodymyr Zelensky, who, in an interview with CNN, suggested that a trip to Kyiv might challenge the House leader’s “assumptions” about military aid.

The exchange comes as some of Mr. McCarthy’s fellow Republicans in Congress are questioning, or opposing, the large sums of aid that the United States has provided to Ukraine. In two House committee hearings last month, which were held just a few days after the anniversary of Russia’s invasion, concerns over the tens of billions of dollars that the United States has sent to Kyiv intensified, with lawmakers from both parties expressing doubts about future aid packages.

Mr. McCarthy “has to come here to see how we work, what’s happening here, what war caused us, which people are fighting now, who are fighting now,” Mr. Zelensky said in the interview with CNN. He added that if Mr. McCarthy visited Ukraine, “I think it would help him with his position.”

But the House speaker swiftly turned down the request. “I will continue to get my briefings and others, but I don’t have to go to Ukraine or Kyiv to see it,” Mr. McCarthy told CNN. “And my point has always been, I won’t provide a blank check for anything.”

An email and a phone call to Mr. McCarthy’s office were not immediately returned.

Several high-level Americans have gone to Kyiv since the war began, some in the past two months. In February, President Biden traveled to Kyiv to demonstrate the United States’ “unwavering support” for Ukraine. He walked through the Ukrainian capital’s streets alongside Mr. Zelensky as air-raid sirens sounded. One week later, Treasury Secretary Janet L. Yellen visited Ukraine’s prime minister, Denys Shmyhal, and announced the transfer of $1.25 billion in economic and budget assistance to Ukraine. And last week, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland met with Mr. Zelensky and attended a conference in Lviv.

There had been strong bipartisan support in Congress for providing military assistance to Ukraine, though enthusiasm has waned as the war grinds on. Republican control of the House could make it difficult for the Biden administration to win approval for more funding packages.

More questions from lawmakers are coming as backing from Americans may be slipping. Overall, public support for Ukraine aid has fallen from 60 percent last May to 48 percent in January, according to surveys by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. The share of Americans who think the United States has given too much to Ukraine has grown from 7 percent a year ago to 26 percent in January, according to the Pew Research Center.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:21 pm

Second US bank fails after Silicon Valley collapse.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/ ... y-collapse

And that's only the beginning. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Imagine what will happen when the world trades exclusively in national currencies via BRICS. India, S.Arabia,Russia, China, South Africa, are already doing it. Lots of others in queue, Argentine, Turkey etc
Bye bye petrodollar, go on printing yourself ad nauseam until you become another Ukrainian hryvnia :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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