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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat May 25, 2024 7:59 am

Zelensky has gone from being in the image of Churchill by the morally corrupted collective West in their proxy war against Russia in the name of supporting Ukrainian democracy, for him to become a dictator now after the deaths of hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainian men.

What excuse will the morally corrupted collective West use in supporting dictatorship in Ukraine now? :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat May 25, 2024 1:18 pm

Kikapu wrote:Zelensky has gone from being in the image of Churchill by the morally corrupted collective West in their proxy war against Russia in the name of supporting Ukrainian democracy, for him to become a dictator now after the deaths of hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainian men.

What excuse will the morally corrupted collective West use in supporting dictatorship in Ukraine now? :roll:

The West has never had principles as we understand them. They only principle is self interest at the expense of everybody else.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun May 26, 2024 6:04 pm

"Ukrainians"...



..."ironically parallel to Moscow."

No one denies that "Ukrainians" exist, no one should deny that "They" exist everywhere, as a threat to the rest of us.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun May 26, 2024 6:36 pm

...meanwhile,



...came the "revolution of dignity".
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun May 26, 2024 11:09 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:"Ukrainians"...



..."ironically parallel to Moscow."

No one denies that "Ukrainians" exist, no one should deny that "They" exist everywhere, as a threat to the rest of us.

(from three years ago)

Nice boys ain't they. The fascists can go to hell.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun May 26, 2024 11:11 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...meanwhile,



...came the "revolution of dignity".

They can dress it up as they like but it is what it is. A fascist takeover organised by the Yanks. It was not the first one and it will not be last either.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Mon May 27, 2024 5:13 pm

Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...meanwhile,



...came the "revolution of dignity".

They can dress it up as they like but it is what it is. A fascist takeover organised by the Yanks. It was not the first one and it will not be last either.


They may not last that long! I think Putin will soon run out of patience with the the US and its partners and put an end to it with a massive NON- Nuclear) attack on similar installations in Europe on US and UK Bases with a very clear warning there is much more to come (Nuclear) if they even think of retaliating! :roll:

I can see the Russians taking out Akrotiri but not with nuclear weapons, they will just turn all the runway/military equipment/buildings into rubble. Then then the US and their choir of Angels will declare it an 'unprovoked attack' ..... like they did with Ukraine, claiming their complete innocence of any provocation!

If it does go this way I am going to lose a lot of windows and roof tiles!
Washington Attacks Key Element of Russia’s Nuclear Umbrella Threatening Entire Global Nuclear Security Architecture - MIKE WHITNEY • MAY 26, 2024

Satellite imagery confirms a Russian strategic early warning radar site in the southwestern end of the country was substantially damaged in a reported Ukrainian drone attack earlier this week. This looks to be a first-of-its-kind attack on a site linked to Russia’s general strategic defense. As such, it points to a new and worrisome dimension to the conflict, especially when it comes to the potential use of nuclear weapons….

(Satellite imagery) shows severe damage to both structures housing the Voronezh-DMs at Armavir. There is also clear evidence of multiple hits on the radar buildings. …(The) radar arrays are generally very sensitive and fragile systems, and even relatively limited damage can result in a “mission kill,” rendering them inoperable for an extended period of time….

Since receiving a new tranche of ATACMS ( Army Tactical Missile System) in secret earlier this year, the Ukrainian armed forces have been using those weapons to good effect against Russian air bases, air defense nodes, and other targets. The latest batch of ATACMS are also longer-range versions than had previously been delivered to Ukraine’s military, which have allowed them to hold more targets at risk….

The two Voronezh-DMs at the facility are a key part of Russia’s larger strategic early warning network and their loss, even temporarily, could only degrade the country’s ability to detect incoming nuclear threats. There are also concerns about how this could impact the ability of Russia’s overall strategic warning network to evaluate potential threats and eliminate false positives due to possible loss of overlapping coverage in certain areas. Strike On Russian Strategic Early Warning Radar Site Is A Big Deal, The Warzone


It’s not like Ukraine bought American long-range missiles and the US has restricted their use. The CIA tells Zelensky to demand American missiles provided at no cost, shipped to Ukraine by the USA, prepared and fired by American contractors using intel provided by the CIA to hit targets in Russia that have little involvement in the war.


https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/washington-attacks-key-element-of-russias-nuclear-umbrella-threatening-entire-global-nuclear-security-architecture/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Mon May 27, 2024 10:13 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...meanwhile,



...came the "revolution of dignity".

They can dress it up as they like but it is what it is. A fascist takeover organised by the Yanks. It was not the first one and it will not be last either.


They may not last that long! I think Putin will soon run out of patience with the the US and its partners and put an end to it with a massive NON- Nuclear) attack on similar installations in Europe on US and UK Bases with a very clear warning there is much more to come (Nuclear) if they even think of retaliating! :roll:

I can see the Russians taking out Akrotiri but not with nuclear weapons, they will just turn all the runway/military equipment/buildings into rubble. Then then the US and their choir of Angels will declare it an 'unprovoked attack' ..... like they did with Ukraine, claiming their complete innocence of any provocation!

If it does go this way I am going to lose a lot of windows and roof tiles!
Washington Attacks Key Element of Russia’s Nuclear Umbrella Threatening Entire Global Nuclear Security Architecture - MIKE WHITNEY • MAY 26, 2024

Satellite imagery confirms a Russian strategic early warning radar site in the southwestern end of the country was substantially damaged in a reported Ukrainian drone attack earlier this week. This looks to be a first-of-its-kind attack on a site linked to Russia’s general strategic defense. As such, it points to a new and worrisome dimension to the conflict, especially when it comes to the potential use of nuclear weapons….

(Satellite imagery) shows severe damage to both structures housing the Voronezh-DMs at Armavir. There is also clear evidence of multiple hits on the radar buildings. …(The) radar arrays are generally very sensitive and fragile systems, and even relatively limited damage can result in a “mission kill,” rendering them inoperable for an extended period of time….

Since receiving a new tranche of ATACMS ( Army Tactical Missile System) in secret earlier this year, the Ukrainian armed forces have been using those weapons to good effect against Russian air bases, air defense nodes, and other targets. The latest batch of ATACMS are also longer-range versions than had previously been delivered to Ukraine’s military, which have allowed them to hold more targets at risk….

The two Voronezh-DMs at the facility are a key part of Russia’s larger strategic early warning network and their loss, even temporarily, could only degrade the country’s ability to detect incoming nuclear threats. There are also concerns about how this could impact the ability of Russia’s overall strategic warning network to evaluate potential threats and eliminate false positives due to possible loss of overlapping coverage in certain areas. Strike On Russian Strategic Early Warning Radar Site Is A Big Deal, The Warzone


It’s not like Ukraine bought American long-range missiles and the US has restricted their use. The CIA tells Zelensky to demand American missiles provided at no cost, shipped to Ukraine by the USA, prepared and fired by American contractors using intel provided by the CIA to hit targets in Russia that have little involvement in the war.


https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/washington-attacks-key-element-of-russias-nuclear-umbrella-threatening-entire-global-nuclear-security-architecture/

America will do the usual. Turn around and run.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:24 am

...Russia wins if "Russia" looses. (the cost being less)



...if "Russia" wins it means for Russians the fighting does not stop.

a political-economic analysis; weighing costs and benefits.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:35 pm

...Putin, in power 22 years,



...now, he may be the richest man in the world.

...(about 25 min.)
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