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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:00 pm

...i would include more of these videos, they exist, DW for example is making these efforts with reporting on the ground; however it is "feel good" stuff, a boy returning to his grandma's house with reporters ('we' are supposed to feel sorry for him), and easily found (and thus easily discounted). There are others closer to the front line and during events, even on the frontline, independent reporters on both sides; but who needs to watch brutality to know that war is brutal.

...another labour market, the Army, for a public wanting money, in a country where 1 in 5, it's reported, live below the poverty line.



...this kind of video is far more relevant, i think, assessing this warring's harm.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:16 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Kiev Assassinated Dozens Of Its Own Azov Heroes

https://southfront.org/kiev-assassinate ... heroes-18/
https://t.me/southfronteng/30253


Isn't it odd that not a single Russian was killed?

These POWs were all alone, as the Ukrainians targeted them and killed them, as if it wasn't more important to kill Russian soldiers or destroy Russian equipment.

Here are the facts. The POWs were killed by the Russians. They were moved to a secluded building and that building was destroyed, by them.

Their murders do not raise morale of the Ukrainian Military, but has the opposite effect as Ukrainian Soldiers underdtsnd that their capture by Russians is likely to result in their torture and death.

In addition, the HIMARS is an extremely advance weapon that is capable of hitting targets with p[inpoint accuracy to pre-determined coordinates, guided by US GPS Satelites. These coordinates are stored and monitored by the USG and Pentagon to ensure these weapons are not used to target dejure Russian territory, be used against civilians or POWs, to commit other war crimes, or contravene the many conditions the USG has binded Ukraine into in their contractual agreements for these weapons to be delivered to them.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:19 pm

Russian forces are now re-inforcing the Kherson Oblast as Ukraine is claiming territory now in Denesk and near Izum.

Looks like a bit of a turning point, as Russian advances have stalled everywhere.

10,000 Himars and MLRS rockets have been delivered to Ukraine by the US

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:47 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Kiev Assassinated Dozens Of Its Own Azov Heroes

https://southfront.org/kiev-assassinate ... heroes-18/
https://t.me/southfronteng/30253


Isn't it odd that not a single Russian was killed?

8 Russian guards were also wounded together with about 50 Azovs.
Guards usually guard outside.... Nothing strange here.

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/30/11146910 ... 9274300453


These POWs were all alone, as the Ukrainians targeted them and killed them, as if it wasn't more important to kill Russian soldiers or destroy Russian equipment.

Here are the facts.
No they are not facts.They are food for non functioning brains. The building was known from the very beginning and Red cross visited them.

The POWs were killed by the Russians. They were moved to a secluded building and that building was destroyed, by them.

Their murders do not raise morale of the Ukrainian Military, but has the opposite effect as Ukrainian Soldiers underdtsnd that their capture by Russians is likely to result in their torture and death.

In addition, the HIMARS is an extremely advance weapon that is capable of hitting targets with p[inpoint accuracy to pre-determined coordinates, guided by US GPS Satelites. These coordinates are stored and monitored by the USG and Pentagon to ensure these weapons are not used to target dejure Russian territory, be used against civilians or POWs, to commit other war crimes, or contravene the many conditions the USG has binded Ukraine into in their contractual agreements for these weapons to be delivered to them.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:53 pm

[quote="Paphitis"]Russian forces are now re-inforcing the Kherson Oblast as Ukraine is claiming territory now in Denesk and near Izum.

Looks like a bit of a turning point, as Russian advances have stalled everywhere.

10,000 Himars and MLRS rockets have been delivered to Ukraine by the US

Always dreaming. Check your facts as I got tired of correcting you.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:54 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Kiev Assassinated Dozens Of Its Own Azov Heroes

https://southfront.org/kiev-assassinate ... heroes-18/
https://t.me/southfronteng/30253


Isn't it odd that not a single Russian was killed?

8 Russian guards were also wounded together with about 50 Azovs.
Guards usually guard outside.... Nothing strange here.

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/30/11146910 ... 9274300453


These POWs were all alone, as the Ukrainians targeted them and killed them, as if it wasn't more important to kill Russian soldiers or destroy Russian equipment.

Here are the facts.
No they are not facts.They are food for non functioning brains. The building was known from the very beginning and Red cross visited them.

The POWs were killed by the Russians. They were moved to a secluded building and that building was destroyed, by them.

Their murders do not raise morale of the Ukrainian Military, but has the opposite effect as Ukrainian Soldiers underdtsnd that their capture by Russians is likely to result in their torture and death.

In addition, the HIMARS is an extremely advance weapon that is capable of hitting targets with p[inpoint accuracy to pre-determined coordinates, guided by US GPS Satelites. These coordinates are stored and monitored by the USG and Pentagon to ensure these weapons are not used to target dejure Russian territory, be used against civilians or POWs, to commit other war crimes, or contravene the many conditions the USG has binded Ukraine into in their contractual agreements for these weapons to be delivered to them.


Yes they are facts!

First, you expect is to believe Ukraine targeted their own POWS using American Weapons - the Ukrainians would have had their arses kicked by them if they did, and perhaps even rish US support because the Americans will NOT supply weapons and allow war atrocities to be committed with their weapons or to attack Russian Territory.

Secondly, it's quite amazing no Russians were killed during the attack. Friggin amazing. How did the Russians accomplish that?

Thirdly, how did the Ukrainians know which building their were loacted in? Did they have someone in the prison? Give us a break!

You expect us to also believe that killing Ukrainian Soldiers would somehow raise morale. Well tickle me pink. That isn't something that can raise morale. it can only have the opposite effect.

Dream on shit for brains! :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:55 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Russian forces are now re-inforcing the Kherson Oblast as Ukraine is claiming territory now in Denesk and near Izum.

Looks like a bit of a turning point, as Russian advances have stalled everywhere.

10,000 Himars and MLRS rockets have been delivered to Ukraine by the US

Always dreaming. Check your facts as I got tired of correcting you.


You can'e even quote properly.

What's wrong with my fact? The US is sending 10,000 Himars rockets to Ukraine. That is a FACT that has even come from the pentagon.

Not only that, but the US is training Ukrainian Pilots which means A10s and F-16s for the Ukrainian Air Force. maybe f-18 because the F-16 has a low jet intake which means vulnerability with ingestation of runway debris.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:00 pm

I already replied you idiot, I am not going to waste more time with you.
The Americans have no idea, neither can they control what the Ukrainians are shooting at.
Stop creating fantasy stories out of your ass. By the minute the Ukrainians accused Russia, they got rid of any responsibility, unless someone proves the opposite.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:08 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:I already replied you idiot, I am not going to waste more time with you.
The Americans have no idea, neither can they control what the Ukrainians are shooting at.
Stop creating fantasy stories out of your ass. By the minute the Ukrainians accused Russia, they got rid of any responsibility, unless someone proves the opposite.


You are that fucked in the head when you told us that the Russian MOD always tells you facts. So of course, you are such a waste of space and you would believe that the Russians "are investigating". What exactly are they investigating? They only make statements like that for stupid minions like YOU.

You don't need to investigate such an event. The Russian Military and MOD should know who targeted the building that the Ukrainian Military must have known about by some fanciful miracle even in the remote possibility they even wanted to target their own POWs which is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my life.

You are telling me that no one in the Ukrainian Government knew of these POWs and that they have so little regard for their soldiers? imagine if that were true and Ukrainian Solddiers came to that realisation. Ukraine would be done for.

You are a dreaming and stupid brainwashed nincompoop.

In addition, you talk about a failed state. Do you know what is in store now for Cyprus? You are litteraly done for. Cyprus is a Turkish island. That is your future. What is happening to Ukraine is going to happen to YOU!

And no one is going to care. Not Australia, not UK, not America, and not Japan. They are going to ALL let Cypruys go to hell, because they have Taiwan to worry about, and Ukraine.

They will condemn Turkey, but there won't even be any sanctions.

And you want to know why they don't care? Because you are only 1 million people, and because there are brainfucked people like YOU.

There is a lot of similarities between Ukraine and Cyprus. But Ukraine has friends. You don't.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:09 pm

Kikapu wrote:
miltiades wrote:By what Purple wrote one would think that Ukraine invaded Russia. The only barbarians here are the invaders or as Turkey says the .. piss interventionist. I understand a lot more that some of you do. Undoubtedly Russia was concerned at the prospect of NATO at its borders but there is absolutely no excuse for invading and embarking upon the destruction of a sovereign nation causing the death of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians. I'm the othet hand Turkey had a lot more excuses to invade Cyprus, she was one of the guarantors . The fanatics obsessed with Greece invited her in. Russia's only excuse was the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO. Russia has allready lost the war, where it thought their " Special" would be a walk over it hasn't. Fierce resistance is prolonging this dreadful war. I do not in any way hate Russia, in fact I have always liked the Russians and visited the country on two occasions. I despise wars of any sort I also confess that the fact that one Christian nation invaded another strengthens my antipathy towards this mythological scatology of a creator.


Ok, let me expand just a little.

It was not just the possibility of NATO moving next door into Ukraine, though that would have been enough reason for Russia to react since Ukraine never ratified the Minsk agreements it signed. This had the potential for the Ukrainian Black Sea coastline to become NATO’s Black Sea coastline so close to Crimea. Now, if you were in Russia’s shoes and you are concern about your own security, what would you have done? Would you take the chance that NATO and Ukraine would not try to take back Crimea and leave you and your Navy exposed which is based in Sevastopol and knowing you cannot pick a fight with NATO without going Nuclear, the next best thing was to invade Ukraine before a small headache becomes a migraine. :wink:

You need to be able to understand why what is happening in Ukraine is happening. It is not about picking sides. It is about walking in the shoes of the one feeling threatened, that’s all. All this would have been avoided had Ukraine ratified the Minsk agreements which was signed 8 years ago. It is obvious that there was never an intention to ratify Minsk by Ukraine on the instructions from America (NATO), which meant there was going to be a war come what may. This all did not happen in a vacuum. Now, if you don’t get that, that’s fine, but please don’t accuse others who do get it as being idiots. Look on the bright side as this war continues, that the world may have avoided a Nuclear War had the threat to Russia became very real by Ukraine becoming a NATO member and that Black Sea becomes NATO’s so close to Crimea. Try looking for that silver lining sometimes. :wink:

Sorry, I went over a little in trying to expand. :oops:


This article more or less talks about what I was stating to our friend, Milti. :wink:


Putin signs new Maritime Doctrine mentioning NATO expansion and the protection of the Black Sea


Ukrainska Pravda
Sun, July 31, 2022, 11:52 AM
ROMAN PETRENKO – SUNDAY, 31 JULY 2022, 12:52

Vladimir Putin, the President of the aggressor country, approved a new Maritime Doctrine, in which he refers to the Black Sea as a "zone of national interest" and also calls it a threat to NATO. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-signs- ... 05647.html
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