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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:02 pm

Kikapu wrote:
miltiades wrote:By what Purple wrote one would think that Ukraine invaded Russia. The only barbarians here are the invaders or as Turkey says the .. piss interventionist. I understand a lot more that some of you do. Undoubtedly Russia was concerned at the prospect of NATO at its borders but there is absolutely no excuse for invading and embarking upon the destruction of a sovereign nation causing the death of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians. I'm the othet hand Turkey had a lot more excuses to invade Cyprus, she was one of the guarantors . The fanatics obsessed with Greece invited her in. Russia's only excuse was the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO. Russia has allready lost the war, where it thought their " Special" would be a walk over it hasn't. Fierce resistance is prolonging this dreadful war. I do not in any way hate Russia, in fact I have always liked the Russians and visited the country on two occasions. I despise wars of any sort I also confess that the fact that one Christian nation invaded another strengthens my antipathy towards this mythological scatology of a creator.


Ok, let me expand just a little.

It was not just the possibility of NATO moving next door into Ukraine, though that would have been enough reason for Russia to react since Ukraine never ratified the Minsk agreements it signed. This had the potential for the Ukrainian Black Sea coastline to become NATO’s Black Sea coastline so close to Crimea. Now, if you were in Russia’s shoes and you are concern about your own security, what would you have done? Would you take the chance that NATO and Ukraine would not try to take back Crimea and leave you and your Navy exposed which is based in Sevastopol and knowing you cannot pick a fight with NATO without going Nuclear, the next best thing was to invade Ukraine before a small headache becomes a migraine. :wink:

You need to be able to understand why what is happening in Ukraine is happening. It is not about picking sides. It is about walking in the shoes of the one feeling threatened, that’s all. All this would have been avoided had Ukraine ratified the Minsk agreements which was signed 8 years ago. It is obvious that there was never an intention to ratify Minsk by Ukraine on the instructions from America (NATO), which meant there was going to be a war come what may. This all did not happen in a vacuum. Now, if you don’t get that, that’s fine, but please don’t accuse others who do get it as being idiots. Look on the bright side as this war continues, that the world may have avoided a Nuclear War had the threat to Russia became very real by Ukraine becoming a NATO member and that Black Sea becomes NATO’s so close to Crimea. Try looking for that silver lining sometimes. :wink:

Sorry, I went over a little in trying to expand. :oops:


But... you didn't explain him how to train his spell checker. It turned my name from Pyro to Purple :o :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:49 pm

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Kikapu wrote:
miltiades wrote:By what Purple wrote one would think that Ukraine invaded Russia. The only barbarians here are the invaders or as Turkey says the .. piss interventionist. I understand a lot more that some of you do. Undoubtedly Russia was concerned at the prospect of NATO at its borders but there is absolutely no excuse for invading and embarking upon the destruction of a sovereign nation causing the death of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians. I'm the othet hand Turkey had a lot more excuses to invade Cyprus, she was one of the guarantors . The fanatics obsessed with Greece invited her in. Russia's only excuse was the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO. Russia has allready lost the war, where it thought their " Special" would be a walk over it hasn't. Fierce resistance is prolonging this dreadful war. I do not in any way hate Russia, in fact I have always liked the Russians and visited the country on two occasions. I despise wars of any sort I also confess that the fact that one Christian nation invaded another strengthens my antipathy towards this mythological scatology of a creator.


Ok, let me expand just a little.

It was not just the possibility of NATO moving next door into Ukraine, though that would have been enough reason for Russia to react since Ukraine never ratified the Minsk agreements it signed. This had the potential for the Ukrainian Black Sea coastline to become NATO’s Black Sea coastline so close to Crimea. Now, if you were in Russia’s shoes and you are concern about your own security, what would you have done? Would you take the chance that NATO and Ukraine would not try to take back Crimea and leave you and your Navy exposed which is based in Sevastopol and knowing you cannot pick a fight with NATO without going Nuclear, the next best thing was to invade Ukraine before a small headache becomes a migraine. :wink:

You need to be able to understand why what is happening in Ukraine is happening. It is not about picking sides. It is about walking in the shoes of the one feeling threatened, that’s all. All this would have been avoided had Ukraine ratified the Minsk agreements which was signed 8 years ago. It is obvious that there was never an intention to ratify Minsk by Ukraine on the instructions from America (NATO), which meant there was going to be a war come what may. This all did not happen in a vacuum. Now, if you don’t get that, that’s fine, but please don’t accuse others who do get it as being idiots. Look on the bright side as this war continues, that the world may have avoided a Nuclear War had the threat to Russia became very real by Ukraine becoming a NATO member and that Black Sea becomes NATO’s so close to Crimea. Try looking for that silver lining sometimes. :wink:

Sorry, I went over a little in trying to expand. :oops:


But... you didn't explain him how to train his spell checker. It turned my name from Pyro to Purple :o :lol: :lol: :lol:


Spell checks are LR’s forte. :wink:

I do not want to step on his precious territory! :D
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:01 pm

Kikapu wrote:Spell checks are LR’s forte. :wink:

I do not want to step on his precious territory! :D


Some priest must have punished him to spell 100 times a day "I shall never again kill an Argentinian niger". :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:26 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Spell checks are LR’s forte. :wink:

I do not want to step on his precious territory! :D


Some priest must have punished him to spell 100 times a day "I shall never again kill an Argentinian niger". :wink:


Except LR got punished twice because he pointed out to the priest that he spelt Argentinian wrong! :wink:

100 times with the misspelt Argentinian and another 100 times with the correct spelling. :lol:

Oh fuck, not sure if I should have used spelled for spelt, or spelt for spelled! :D

I’m sure LR will correct me soon enough! :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:38 pm

I'm pleased to know that no Cypriot politician has come out in support of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Supporting the Russian invasion also means the support of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:51 pm

miltiades wrote:I'm pleased to know that no Cypriot politician has come out in support of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Supporting the Russian invasion also means the support of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.


NO, IT DOES NOT, Milti.

The RoC as an EU member state has no choice but to be seen as a “team player” in supporting Ukraine. Just your normal run of the mill fucking politics, that’s all. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:24 pm

Kikapu wrote:
miltiades wrote:I'm pleased to know that no Cypriot politician has come out in support of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Supporting the Russian invasion also means the support of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.


NO, IT DOES NOT, Milti.

The RoC as an EU member state has no choice but to be seen as a “team player” in supporting Ukraine. Just your normal run of the mill fucking politics, that’s all. :wink:

Russia invaded Ukraine. FULL STOP.
So did Turkey invaded Cyprus. Thousands of Ukrainians and Russians killed as a result of the invasion .
There isn't a valid reason why anyone, apart from the Psychopath, would support the Russian invasion unless ofcourse one hates the West and sees this as a Russian v NATO. I do not hate Russia but I hate this barbaric invasion and destruction is causing.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:38 pm

Blinken to speak to Russia's Lavrov for first time since Ukraine invasion
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/27/blinke ... ion-griner

Careful: journalists write whatever they are told.
What they will talk about -that cannot be discussed through the usual diplomatic channel- is obviously something else
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:29 pm

Thanks Pyr, something to watch for.

...almost hopeful. One imagines they will want to end the problem (read: Problem), but it is still more about "winning".
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:33 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4h2urFR9IU
...missiles hit Kyiv region from Belarus, allegedly s-300s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mWKnR3Bj_k
...Canada to blame for the EU's energy crisis?
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