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by **Lordo** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:43 pm

I don't know how many times it has to be said. Killing of all civilians and prisoners of war is a crime. It makes no difference who does it. You can contest the information as there is a lot of false info around, but you cannot justify it under any circumstances.

by **Pyrpolizer** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:It's clear for me that nobody watched that part which makes me wonder what's the point of sharing information to a forum where nobody wants to learn anything....

The hypocritical son of a total ANAL-WHORE is unhappy that nobody appreciates his “sharing” of videos and info!

Hang in there for 2-3 weeks when I’ll have more time so as to express my appreciation to you!

I'm coming...

I always knew your detoxification therapy would fail miserably SONOFABITCH.

by **Londonrake** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:59 pm

Lordo wrote:I don't know how many times it has to be said. Killing of all civilians and prisoners of war is a crime. It makes no difference who does it. You can contest the information as there is a lot of false info around, but you cannot justify it under any circumstances.

Bravo. I revise my opinion.

Don't be tempted to push it though. :lol:

by **Londonrake** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:37 pm

Kikapu wrote:As always you are trying to dilute the whole criminal events of this crime by the Ukrainian soldiers by bringing other similar events that may have been committed by the Russian soldiers. For me there are no acceptance of such crimes regardless who commits them sorry to disappoint you in your belief of otherwise of me!

That's a bit confusing ("sorry to disappoint you in your belief of otherwise of me"

) but - no - there's no dilution.

So, a 40 second video appears on Southgate (a site well known for its balanced views). Who posted it and why? Where and when did it happen? Who was involved? What were the circumstances? The answer to all it seems is - we don't know. I think it reasonable to want more than that before being able to discard the possibility that it was actually a contrived means of winding up what was becoming flagging domestic popularity for Putin's war.

Regarding the wider subject of war crimes in Ukraine.

As far as "may have been committed by the Russian soldiers" their excesses have been investigated/documented and found to have been fairly widespread throughout this war. Unlike the 40 second video furore, little to nothing has been said on those issues by war-supporters though, apart usually from denials that they've ever occurred, are faked, or simply ignoring them.

The UN isn't the only agency involved in those investigations. However, their War Crime report seems fairly balanced. In it they also point to crimes committed by the Ukrainians but it's quite clear in that "We have found obviously significantly larger numbers of instances that amount to war crimes on the part of the Russian Federation.” Very significant numbers it seems.

Many western news agencies, with reporters actually on the ground in Ukraine, have published articles about the issue from witnesses to events and their investigations at the scenes. Stories reflecting rape, torture, gratuitous exections, mass graves. Apparently, though these are to be disregarded, on the basis they're all involved in some sort of collective global anti-Russian conspiracy.

Question: is there to be any "discussion" on this thread? Or, do we all just broadcast our views and links? Perhaps taking it in turns to ignore people or sometimes disappear for a while. That seems to be the trend.

I ask because, like Pyrpro, you seem to want it carried out in one-liners from those who have different views to yourselves. Although, not when the poster's are sympathetic to yours. Ipso facto, you were quite happy to read what must be a 350 word post and watch a two and half hour video "in it's entirety" because it obviously complements your views (IMHO Ritter's a useful idiot). Anything beyond a couple of sentences from the opposition though becomes a "Rant", "Tirade", "Diatribe". Fill in the blank.

I'm not going to play that game. If unacceptable, then perhaps you should adopt Pyrpro's stance. You'll find him over there in the corner, hiding. Otherwise I look forward to discussing the issue. Like you once said you did.

by **Pyrpolizer** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:48 pm

How long will Ukraine last?
https://t.me/grigoriev_maxim/465

Final stage coming soon?
https://t.me/grigoriev_maxim/466

by **Kikapu** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:13 pm

Paphitis wrote:
We both know full well what these gaslighters will say - Ruzzia does not commit war crimes. Only Ukraine does.

Yet the Ruzzians bomb civilian apartment buildings, schools, playgrounds, electricity grids, use Nuclear Power stations as a shield to shell other Ukrainian towns and cities and I can go on and on.

I'm sorry, but the Ruzzians are barbarians. A very cold and barbaric people.

It's a global victory to see them completely decimated, humbled and humilitated globally and reduced to a third world tin pot. It's what evil deserves. Evil needs to be punished and made an example of much like NAZI Germany, Russia should see the same fate.

What Russia has done in Ukraine is completely evil, and barbaric. this isn't a country anyone should be proud of. It's a country that deserves the greatest condemnation.

As a result, the free world in its entirety is on Ukraine's side. we all stand with Ukraine, because at the end of the day, we must never allow this evil to prevail.

The problem with your rational when it comes to the war in Ukraine is that you only see things Black & White, which such views are reserved for those with simplistic understandings of political events in that region and what it means to the security of those countries in that region. When security of some are demanded at the expense of security of others, we get the present situation, and if you think Russia is the sole responsible party in what is happening in Ukraine, then there’s no hope for you to advance beyond such simplistic views, other than blindly becoming a Pom Pom Cheerleader for Ukraine, even when they commit crimes for all to see. :shock:

by **repulsewarrior** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:57 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
We both know full well what these gaslighters will say - Ruzzia does not commit war crimes. Only Ukraine does.

Yet the Ruzzians bomb civilian apartment buildings, schools, playgrounds, electricity grids, use Nuclear Power stations as a shield to shell other Ukrainian towns and cities and I can go on and on.

I'm sorry, but the Ruzzians are barbarians. A very cold and barbaric people.

It's a global victory to see them completely decimated, humbled and humilitated globally and reduced to a third world tin pot. It's what evil deserves. Evil needs to be punished and made an example of much like NAZI Germany, Russia should see the same fate.

What Russia has done in Ukraine is completely evil, and barbaric. this isn't a country anyone should be proud of. It's a country that deserves the greatest condemnation.

As a result, the free world in its entirety is on Ukraine's side. we all stand with Ukraine, because at the end of the day, we must never allow this evil to prevail.

The problem with your rational when it comes to the war in Ukraine is that you only see things Black & White, which such views are reserved for those with simplistic understandings of political events in that region and what it means to the security of those countries in that region. When security of some are demanded at the expense of security of others, we get the present situation, and if you think Russia is the sole responsible party in what is happening in Ukraine, then there’s no hope for you to advance beyond such simplistic views, other than blindly becoming a Pom Pom Cheerleader for Ukraine, even when they commit crimes for all to see.

...indeed, "Russians" exist just as sure as "Ukrainians" exist. Both see Russians and Ukrainians as an adversary to their dogmas.

Like the Problem in Cyprus, the notion of an Individual having Individual Rights is obscured by the Person's identity; and indeed it is ''their'' intention.

by **repulsewarrior** » Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:59 pm

Lordo wrote:
I don't know how many times it has to be said. Killing of all civilians and prisoners of war is a crime. It makes no difference who does it. You can contest the information as there is a lot of false info around, but you cannot justify it under any circumstances.

...seems pretty clear to me.