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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:https://warnews247.gr/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/26-2.mp4


These guys are Ruzzian. That isn't the western issued camo pattern or helmets.

The only thing right is the yellow arm bands


Don't be hilarious. They speak Ukrainian. As for the camo all I can say is that if I were to compare using top quality videos I would say the Russian pattern is a bit more dense with a bit smaller pattern, but still hardly distinguishable. It's not hard for me to guess how you came to the conclusion those uniforms are Russian: It's because they are not the warm, top quality, white in color, thermal uniforms, sent by the Canadians, no?
Or is just your fantasy going wild.... again.

As for the helmets how can anyone distinguish between then tens of types used by the Ukrainians and the tens of types used by the Russians, is beyond me...


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Well they are at war. And they can complain all they like if they are Ukrainian, and allegedly on the Bahmut Front, but the whole idea of being on the front line is that you could be there for days and weeks, in the field, liuving on ration packs. The fact they had a hot meal is a luxury.

Ration packs, are extremely spartan. They are like Jenny Craig food packs, with tinned food, fruit, packaged cheese blocks, and chocolate bars. Everything neatly packaged into a small package. No gluttony here. Just accurately measured sustenance, to keep you alive and keep energy levels as high as can be under the circumstances.

For a soldier in the field, it's only what can be carried, along with everything else. In a survival setting, it's only what is stored in your life raft or the emergency rations on your aircraft. For instance, survival at sea, it's only what is in the life raft. 20L of water, for 5 people, and a a couple of boxes of ration packs.

You could be on that raft for days, before you are rescued. in fact, they put you at sea for days, just floating around in a life raft with your only protection from a tarp to keep you out of the sun. And to spice things up, a Sea Hawk over your head at 50ft, to disturb the waters and make you sea sick and vomitting over the side in order to dehydrate you. Cruel but necessary because one day it could be for real.

Out there, all alone with your mates, for 3 days before you get picked up.

Oh and you don't complain. No matter how hard up you may be, you still never forget that you are doing it for your country and if necessary you will need to do it for real and perhaps you may even die serving your country. Plus, it was a lot of good bonding with some great guys, who become friends for life.

But isn't amazing how the Ukrainians, are still nevertheless kicking your arseholes like the bitches you are!


I usually stop reading posts when the 2nd paragraph starts with similar irrelevant nonsense/or blah blah like the first paragraph. LondonRocky knows that very well.
In this case I made an exception, just to regret wasting my time.

But I did succeed perfectly here and the following 5
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:46 pm

A typical western disinformation article:
Too many contradictions, and clear effort to distort the reality.
Start from the endless effort of Western media to convey the message (to who really?? :wink: ) that Bakhmout is of no strategic significance.
Article is behind a paywall. It's text follows the link.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... -ukraines/


Inside Bakhmut: The strange and senseless death trap draining Ukraine's tired army

The town has seen hundreds killed or wounded each day in bloody frontal attacks, yet holds little military significance


Peering through a telescope looking for enemy movement in no-man's land, the Ukrainian soldier points out a warehouse held by Russian forces.

The adversaries are only 300 or 400 yards from their fighting position, uphill across a shattered landscape of blown out buildings and barren fields.

"They throw their meat at us," says another soldier beside him, grimly referring to the human wave of assaults carried out by Russian mercenaries and poorly-equipped reservists.

Behind the Ukrainian fighting position, which they defend with a PKM heavy machine gun, are the largely abandoned remains of a once-thriving Donetsk town whose name has become synonymous with the most intense and costly fighting of Vladimir Putin's invasion.

Bakhmut was once home to 70,000 people and known for both salt-mining and its sparkling wine industry. Since the summer, the town has instead often seen hundreds killed or wounded each day in intense shelling and bloody frontal attacks in fighting reminiscent of the First World War.

Large parts of its eastern suburbs have been obliterated by artillery and the fields are pitted with craters. The destruction has come about in a city that many analysts say has little strategic value to the Russians.

Even if Moscow were to take Bakhmut, it is unclear Russia's degraded forces would be able to capitalise on the gain to make further advances.

Some conflict experts say Russia's obsession with the city has become nothing more than a ploy to drain Ukraine's armed forces of their limited resources.

"We are scratching our heads," a Western official said this week when asked about Russia's focus on Bakhmut. "We don't know the answer."
A wounded Ukrainian soldier helps his comrade to drink during their evacuation at a stabilising mobile hospital in the vicinity of Bakhmut, Donetsk region
A wounded Ukrainian soldier helps his comrade to drink during their evacuation at a stabilising mobile hospital in the vicinity of Bakhmut, Donetsk region Credit: AFP via Getty Images

Moscow is said to be desperate for a victory after humiliating reverses elsewhere.

Russian commanders are making creeping gains with the aid of huge artillery support, even as they have lost significant ground around Kharkiv and Kherson.

Yet the very intensity of the Russian offensive and the steep casualties borne by the defenders under relentless barrages have also made it totemic for Ukrainian forces.
A wounded Ukrainian soldier receives treatment at Bakhmut Hospital
A wounded Ukrainian soldier receives treatment at Bakhmut Hospital Credit: Anadolu Agency via Getty Images

“This is the centre of our indomitability,” says Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of Ukraine's national security council.

Some Ukrainian troops describe the defence of Bakhmut as being a new Mariupol, referring to the battle for the steel city on the Azov Sea where defenders were besieged in the early months of the invasion. Others simply refer to it as the meat grinder, because of the terrible toll of the fighting and the apparent disregard Russian commanders have for their troops.

Bakhmut has been under shelling since May, but the assault intensified in August after the fall of the surrounding cities of Popasna, Severodonetsk, and Lysychansk.

Yard by yard, the encroaching Russian forces have got within only a few miles of the city centre, after capturing two strategic crossroads to its east and north east.

In recent days, Russian forces are also thought to have taken limited ground to the south of the city, as they seek to encircle the town and strangle the defenders.
Emergency workers treat a civilian injured by shrapnel after Russian shelling in Bakhmut, Donetsk region
Emergency workers treat a civilian injured by shrapnel after Russian shelling in Bakhmut, Donetsk region Credit: Anadolu Agency via Getty Images

Yevgeny Prigozhin, a key ally of Putin and founder of Russia's Wagner Group private military company, is thought to have promised the Russian leader that he can take the city, as he jockeys for position with other regime favourites. Ramzan Kadyrov, the Chechen leader, has also sent forces to join the assault.

Mr Danilov said: “I think that someone from the Russian side has made a commitment that he will take Bakhmut as a gift for Putin.

“Taking into account that there is a group of Kadyrov and Prigozhin, it is likely that one of them took it upon himself. They use all the weapons they have there, they bring troops there from everywhere.”
'It's a town Russia wants to be seen to capture'

Ben Barry, of the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said that Bakhmut had no more military significance than other similar-sized towns along hundreds of miles of front line.

“But it has political significance as a town the Russian leadership wants to be seen to capture. It may also be that any role Wagner has in capturing it would amplify the political position of its owner.”
A cat runs in front of houses ruined in the Russian shelling in Bakhmut, Donetsk region
A cat runs in front of houses ruined in the Russian shelling in Bakhmut, Donetsk region Credit: AP

Mr Prigozhin himself has said he is using the offensive to wear down Ukrainian forces, rather than capture the city, though he may also be trying to manage expectations of victory.

However, some analysts believe the concentration of Mr Putin's forces in Bakhmut has allowed Ukraine to make gains elsewhere.

“Putin’s current fixation with continuing offensive operations around Bakhmut and elsewhere is contributing to Ukraine’s ability to maintain the military initiative in other parts of the theatre," The Institute for the Study of War, a Washington think tank, said this week.
A Ukrainian soldier receives treatment at Bakhmut Hospital
A Ukrainian soldier receives treatment at Bakhmut Hospital Credit: Anadolu Agency via Getty Images

Whatever Russia's calculations, the battle is sucking in troops and material from both sides, as Ukraine's international allies race to keep it supplied with weapons to resist the onslaught.

Ukrainian commanders say Russian losses in the area have been as high as 100 to 300 on some days. Ukrainian forces themselves are paying a high price to hold the city, however, in the face of sometimes overwhelming artillery.

“For every artillery piece we have, they have nine,” said one soldier.

Footage from inside Ukrainian field hospitals shows surgeons trying to stabilise a steady stream of badly wounded soldiers.

Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to the interior ministry, last week said doctors in Bakhmut were performing miracles, but “deal with an unbelievable amount of suffering every day, every hour as they work tirelessly”.
A local resident leaves his home after Russian shelling destroyed an apartment house in Bakhmut, Donetsk region
A local resident leaves his home after Russian shelling destroyed an apartment house in Bakhmut, Donetsk region Credit: AP

Incredibly, some are still living in the city, though an estimated 90 per cent of the pre-war population is thought to have left. Those that remain are the impoverished and elderly with nowhere to go, and those too stubborn to leave.

The largely empty streets are strewn with rubble from the daily Russian bombardment, and the remaining residents no longer have heat, electricity, phone connections, or running water.
Ukrainian soldiers fire an artillery at Russian positions near Bakhmut
Ukrainian soldiers fire an artillery at Russian positions near Bakhmut Credit: AP

Neighbours gather above ground during the day, taking advantage of the short lulls in the constant shelling to chop firewood and cook food in the winter gloom.

Some no longer care about the outcome of the war, they simply want it to stop.

"Who needs this war?" says 46-year-old Tatiana, with tears in her eyes. Her injured husband Anatoli, 54, looks up at her helpless from his hospital bed. "For what reason are they still fighting?"

The couple lost their home when artillery shells struck their house in south east Bakhmut a month ago. Anatoli suffered shrapnel wounds to his stomach, legs, and arms.
Funeral directors place a body of an unidentified local resident in a coffin in Bakhmut
Funeral directors place a body of an unidentified local resident in a coffin in Bakhmut Credit: REUTERS

Two town centre grocery shops are still open, but most Bakhmut residents rely on humanitarian aid from the handful of civilian volunteers who brave enemy artillery to provide a lifeline to those who still remain.

Oleg, 47, a local orthodox church priest, makes perilous weekly runs into the city in his yellow van to deliver bread, powdered soup, paracetamol and water.

"Do you want a Bible as well?" he yells to recipients above the dull roar of incoming and outgoing fire, before hurrying off. It is too dangerous to stay in one place for long.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:59 am

"They" have chosen to attack in the Ukraine, what did they expect; "the "Americans" to join them?

...let's be serious, it is 'us' their victims either way. Like plunderers everywhere, they hide in the crowds their greed makes.

Who takes words like America, or Ukraine, or Russia, or Cyprus, or Turkey, filling them with hateful enterprise for their gain but "Them"?

...Putin is no saviour. As i've said before, he is a wanna be.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:33 am



predictions for the winter...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Dec 17, 2022 1:06 pm

Article by Henry Kissinger.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-push-for-peace/

I suggest you start from where he says
"Does the world today find itself at a comparable turning point in Ukraine..."
and proceed to the next 2-3 paragraphs.

Notice the guy is tricky, confusing, and contradictory on purpose. Here below is his main point, however check his underlining details.

"The goal of a peace process would be twofold: to confirm the freedom of Ukraine and to define a new international structure, especially for Central and Eastern Europe. Eventually Russia should find a place in such an order."
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:43 pm

DING DONG Bitches!

Paphitis is in da house! :lol: :lol: :lol:

How is the Ukrainian War going bitches? Any news from the front lines? I must say, Ruzzian Propaganda and TV are very funny bitches. They are showing propaganda pieces of their drones knocking out their already destroyed S300s, complete with Z markings and all, and claiming it was Ukrainian. Extremely desperate to say the least. Great entertasinment too.

Oh and Ruzzian Military bloggers are claiming to have taken Bahmut. But the Ukrainians are releasing videos with their soldiers walking down Bahmut Streets. :lol:

So, how is the Bahmut Offensive going bitches? Ruzzia did manage to take 3 blocks, and then get their asses kicked out by the Ukrainians.

I guess it isn't going very good. :lol:

Oh well, better luck next time bitches! :D
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:08 am

So bitches, can you please tell me how Bahmut was taken? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh it hasn't. We are getting old waiting for Bahmut to fall.

what kind of military does Ruzzia have bitches. It's like a true commedy.

No one has ever seen a more incompetent military since the Iraqi military in the Iraq War. At least even the Iraqi Military gave the US a good fight in Faluja, but this Ruzzian Military is a joke.

I mean Jesus, I reckon the Cyprus National Guard would wipe the floor with Ruzzia. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I guess we are all correct though that there really is no need for NATO as Ruzzia is no threat to Europe. All we need to make sure is that our women are correctly armed with their handbags and the Ruzzians would be gonnas.

:lol:

And apparently Ruzzia is planning another invasion from the north to take Kyiv. How do you think that will go bitches when the last attempt failed so miserably when Ruzzia had its best soldiers and equipment?

Can we actually ask what the average IQ is of the typical Ruzzian? Can't be too high. :lol:
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