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[Paphitis]

I think it's time to get a grip of reality now bitches.

The writing is on the wall. Ruzzia is losing and probably already lost.

Now, it time to focus on the aftermath when Ruzzia implodes and collapses completely.

The Cypriots now who think the US and NATO are the Satan - well what can I say other than get a grip. You will be on the wrong side of history. as members of the EU, you are basically biting the hand that feeds you. EU = NATO and you are EU members bitches along with 30 odd other countries who are also mebers of NATO.

You guys have been total fuck ups since 1958 when Makarios was negotiating the establishment of the Republic with the UK. You all displayed a major lack of judgment which is what happens when goat herders suddenly become leaders of a newly established country with no thought whatsoever given to security. Cyprus should have been inducted into NATO from day dot. It's like you all think it will never happen to you, but it did happen. And it could happen again. just ask Ukraine.

But alas, we were so friggin stupid and now we even have a partitioned country to boot.

But here you all are, still spanking a dead donkey like masochysts.

Nevermind bitches. Play with fire, and you will get burnt. Problem is though, usually when you get burnt the first time, you actually learn from it.

You know, in my opinion, I even think the EOKA campaign of 1955 to 1959 was a HUGE mistake bitches. But it happened and my family has a connectable history with EOKA which as a family we are ultimately proud of but it was still a mistake.

The entire way we approached the Brits was a HUGE MISTAKE. We made enemies of them when we should have been friends with them. We should have been friends with them then, and friends with them NOW! We would have been granted our wish of self determination automatically. We just needed to be patient. Might not have happened by 1960, but it would have happened in a few short years after that. And we should have maintained great ties with the UK ever since. And we should have joined NATO for security reasons as well.

But instead, we maintained styupid ideologies belonging to a false doctrine and which is now a resounding failure (Soviet Union).

Being connected to the UK has actually worked for many countries you know. Just look at Canada, Australia and NZ. Just 3 of the best countries in the world no less. I mean seriously, these 3 countries are pretty friggin resounding success stories. We could have been the same as them. And be best pals with the UK today. I do not believe there is anything inherantly "evil" about the UK. On the contrary, they have been a net contributor to world affairs and mostly in a positive way as well. They are a far better country than Ruzzia and that is to say the least. They defended Europe against evil and prevailed. Where would the world be without the UK? Probably not in a good place.

But here we are continuing with our stupidies...

US = Satan
UK is bad
NATO is criminal

and yet Ruzzia is pure and all good.

Don't make me laugh bitches.

What is more accurate is you are all STUPID!

And that is pretty close to the truth bitches.

I mean look at the countries the US and UK hang with. Friends with major Uropean Economies like Germany and France, friends with socially cohesive countries like the Scandinavians and Austria, and look who Ruzzia hangs with - all the shit rogues and deplorables. That says it all bitches.

And yet you think you all know it all and come out and support the Ruzzian Invasion of Ukraine. Despite the fact we too are victims of the same thing.

Well bitches, I have no doubt you are all STUPID!

[Paphitis]

My dad use to say, shoe me your friends and I will tell you what kind of person you are.

You can also judge a person from their shoes.

Now bitches, what is completely wrong with even having a connection to the UK today. If we were smart, Cyprus would have adopted EVERYTHING from the UK. legal system, political system, medical system and just about everything else under the sun.

But we demonized them. WHY? Because we are STUPID!

I mean if only we can turn back the clock. Even if we maintained the Monarch as our Head of State, we would have been better off. Australia, NZ and Canada share the same Head of State too and loo at them go. Stability, and no friggin coups or shennanigans.

It's not as if we have great people as leaders. Even when we do have them, we tend to vote for total international embarrassments like Christofias and that Googley eyed guy. I mean WTF!

Even if we still had the Monarch on our currency, who gives a damn? Or even if the Union Jack was still on our flag, I don't think I would care. We would still be independent, and we could be connected with other good countries.

But we wanted to copy another country which has a lot of trouble and issues. I don't get it bitches? I really don't get it. I like Greece quite a lot. Bueatiful country and people. But...we can't follow their path. We would have been better off with the UK.

But nevermind...can't turn back the clock.

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed Pyr, it is a turning point.

The Problem solved not just in the Ukraine, but in Turkey and Russia and Cyprus too.

...and an end to Turkey's dispute with Greece, which has been linked to the Problem, in Syria, Iraq and Iran, and also in Azerbaijan, for the same reason; all of this is possible if in turn he changes his intentions having isolated himself.

Indeed, he (Erdogan) has his Legacy to think of. What with the Centennial and elections looming at such a turning point, what will he do but turn on a dime; he has boarded the train called Democracy before.

...Putin too wants Fame, and right now in his infamy he faces a War Crimes Tribunal; a solution that is "perfect'' he could include in Russia's Constitutional reform which can be emulated, like a BBF: where as a State Citizens have the capacity to defend their Basic Human Rights as Individuals, and, where as these People as Persons demonstrate the same respect and trust for each other by recognising the special needs of minorities living among them.

NATO's mission will change with such a Peace, i surmise that Russia will become a member, China too some day, protecting the high seas, a task that the US does at the moment world-wide, but for its Maritime traffic as its mission.

...Henry Kissinger does not say much (about Human Rights, e.g.), nothing new at least (about his thinking politically); History will judge him like the "America" he worked/is working for.

[repulsewarrior]

Paphitis, has it occurred to you that there is a Ruling Class who have not/are not making any effort to prevent themselves from being treated differently?

..."Brits", like "Americans", there are many; they tear at the very fabric of their societies for more, expecting that their accountability will be dismissed: what Honour is there in that?

The "You" that you generalise to be 'us' is not the Cypriot, but the "Greek" (and the "Turk") who as usurpers ignore Principles for Dogma.

...this is the Problem.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, has it occurred to you that there is a Ruling Class who have not/are not making any effort to prevent themselves from being treated differently?

..."Brits", like "Americans", there are many; they tear at the very fabric of their societies for more, expecting that their accountability will be dismissed: what Honour is there in that?

The "You" that you generalise to be 'us' is not the Cypriot, but the "Greek" (and the "Turk") who as usurpers ignore Principles for Dogma.

...this is the Problem.

There is a ruling or elite class in every country.

The question though is this. Where is the ruling class and eltism more prevalent. Is it more prevalent for instance in the EU or the US, or Australia, or is it more prevalent in Ruzzia and China? Where do we as the non elite or ruling classes have more rights as ordinary citizens and a fairer go and more freedoms? we in the EU, US or Australia, or the Russians and Chinese in Russia and China?

where would you rather be? In the UK, France, Germany, Australia, canada or US, or in China and Russia.

Pretty easy questions to answer in my view as the answers are obvious.

I am not generalising. There are 2 sides here. And one side continuously comes out as the superior and better option by far.

I am not generalising, just a fair bit perplexed that we as Cypriots can actually support the Russian Invasion of Ukraine and with a straight face. We are literally sick RW, and need to have a good hard rethink.

I see accountability in the west, EU and in our countries. You can only go so far before you land yourself in hot water and the law doesn't stop for anybody.

I see injustice and evil with Russia's actions in Ukraine. An evil that must never be allowed to pass because if it is, we are all in a lot of trouble as nations, because it is only a matter of time before another country falls victim, and another, and another, and another once again.

Russia must be held accountable as well, for all the war crimes it has committed and pay massive war reparations. There is no doubt in my mind. This war must continue until Russia meets a grizzly end and until all of Ukraine is liberated. the sooner the better, but if this must go on for another year or 2, then so be it. Crimea must be liberated too and it will be.

It doesn't matter anymore the human cost or the monetary cost. As I said, the sooner Ukraine frees its lands and ends this war, the better. And obviusly it would be better for less human cost and sacrifice from all sides because this war is one friggin nasty hell of a war, that the world doesn't really need. But at the same time, evil must be confronted for as long as is needed.

do you see the injustice here RW? Do you condemn Russia's invasion as an injustice to the Ukraine?

[repulsewarrior]

...an injustice to the Russian people/People too. (let's be clear)

The Problem is the problem; without a solution.

...is accountability more important than the secrets anyone of us decide to keep to ourselves; it is a matter of Principle and intention.

Who is Putin, we will see. Being the center of this conflict he has the power to see changes made. His world like his adversaries is wrecked; it calls for new beginnings.

...more so what with the planet itself degrading an even greater existential question.

[Kikapu]

I see injustice and evil with Russia's actions in Ukraine. An evil that must never be allowed to pass because if it is, we are all in a lot of trouble as nations, because it is only a matter of time before another country falls victim, and another, and another, and another once again.

Russia must be held accountable as well, for all the war crimes it has committed and pay massive war reparations. There is no doubt in my mind. This war must continue until Russia meets a grizzly end and until all of Ukraine is liberated. the sooner the better, but if this must go on for another year or 2, then so be it. Crimea must be liberated too and it will be.

It doesn't matter anymore the human cost or the monetary cost. As I said, the sooner Ukraine frees its lands and ends this war, the better. And obviusly it would be better for less human cost and sacrifice from all sides because this war is one friggin nasty hell of a war, that the world doesn't really need. But at the same time, evil must be confronted for as long as is needed.

do you see the injustice here RW? Do you condemn Russia's invasion as an injustice to the Ukraine?

Paphitis, you need to wake up and smell the coffee my friend as to what the Ukraine war is all about because this war did not just happen in a vacuum.

[repulsewarrior]

https://www.voanews.com/a/kissinger-cal ... 81679.html

...more on what Kissinger is saying; but i will not quote this man because he offends me.

[Kikapu]

I see injustice and evil with Russia's actions in Ukraine. An evil that must never be allowed to pass because if it is, we are all in a lot of trouble as nations, because it is only a matter of time before another country falls victim, and another, and another, and another once again.

Russia must be held accountable as well, for all the war crimes it has committed and pay massive war reparations. There is no doubt in my mind. This war must continue until Russia meets a grizzly end and until all of Ukraine is liberated. the sooner the better, but if this must go on for another year or 2, then so be it. Crimea must be liberated too and it will be.

It doesn't matter anymore the human cost or the monetary cost. As I said, the sooner Ukraine frees its lands and ends this war, the better. And obviusly it would be better for less human cost and sacrifice from all sides because this war is one friggin nasty hell of a war, that the world doesn't really need. But at the same time, evil must be confronted for as long as is needed.

do you see the injustice here RW? Do you condemn Russia's invasion as an injustice to the Ukraine?

Paphitis, you need to wake up and smell the coffee my friend as to what the Ukraine war is all about because this war did not just happen in a vacuum.

[Lordo]

Before Bafidi can smell the coffee, he has to clear all the fucking bullshit from his nostrils.