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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:55 am

Strahd wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:reducing us to a minority in our own state


Do not worry, Turkey has done this for you already... Turkish Cypriots are a minority in the TRNC and this time not a minority in a Cypriot population but a minority in foreign poppulation...


As kerravon say s the Turkish Troops are here on our request and do a great job of protecting us and keeping the peace, the proof is the last 32 years.

As for being a minority in the north well its better to return to your own roots than be assimilated into a Greek based community, this choice was made in 1974 when you pushed us into the arms of Turkey :wink:


kerravon heres just a little taste of the TRNC http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0&q=Cyprus
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Postby kerravon » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:29 am

miltiades wrote:Kerravon , I did post before what I think of your scatological based solution. Not only do you know nothing of the Cyprus situation

If I didn't know anything about it, why did a TC give me an A+ for my solution? A solution that had the Turks leaving, something you will never manage to do by any other means.

you have the audacity to propose a solution that will exclude what you stupidly refer to the migration of the displaced Cypriots back to their own ancestral home. You do not realise that in Cyprus all Cypriots have a god given right to live in any part of their birth country that they choose.

So long as you keep insisting on your God-given right to conquer the TC by force of numbers, you will neither be able to exercise your "God-given right", and you will only increase the chances of Northern Cyprus being recognized as an independent country.

A solution that is not based on the recognition of one people and one people only , the Cypriots , will be doomed to fail.

No, a solution that is not based on recognizing that there is two distinct communities, with two distinct territories, and a minority fearful of the majority, is doomed to fail. Which is why your plan of conquest is failing, and has failed for the last 30 years, and will continue to fail. If you're not interested in reunification, just say so, so we can start recognizing Northern Cyprus.

You mentioned earlier that your ancestral home is England. Please tell us where your parents ancestral homes were ?? I have a feeling it was'nt Cyprus but it was pretty close.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I told you my ancestors are Scottish and English and I have a Welsh surname (I only found out it was Welsh when I was about 21 years old, from a co-worker). I'm white, but I don't know if I'm Anglo-Saxon or not. No-one ever told me. I don't think they actually know. We're not racist like you pricks. We are brought up to be anti-racist.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:24 am

Kerravon You are a first class moron and an ignorant sod too . Your command of the English language or rather your comprehension levels are also limited . My philosophy is one of one Cyprus where there are no majorities or minorities but Cypriots with a God given right to live in any part of their birth country. Read my post genius.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:27 am

miltiades wrote:Kerravon You are a first class moron and an ignorant sod too . Your command of the English language or rather your comprehension levels are also limited . My philosophy is one of one Cyprus where there are no majorities or minorities but Cypriots with a God given right to live in any part of their birth country. Read my post genius.


How long do you think it will take to assimilate TCs into the numerical majority GCs??
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Postby kerravon » Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:11 pm

miltiades wrote:Kerravon You are a first class moron and an ignorant sod too . Your command of the English language or rather your comprehension levels are also limited . My philosophy is one of one Cyprus where there are no majorities or minorities but Cypriots with a God given right to live in any part of their birth country. Read my post genius.

That should indeed be the ultimate goal. But you're not dealing with reality. It will take a long time before the TC can trust the GC. You're not even allowing the process to BEGIN. You're insisting on immediate GC conquest of TC. IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. And if you're not serious about beginning the process, we may as well have two countries. And citizens of Southern Cyprus will be free to live in any part of their country, with no majorities or minorities, and citizens of Northern Cyprus will be free to live in any part of their country, with no majorities or minorities. Which is basically exactly what we've got now. Let's just formalize what we've already got, because you have no intention of taking the TC's feelings into consideration. Basically because you're in the majority and you know there's no fear of you being discriminated against. So you're just demanding the TC accept what you want. Sorry, it ain't gonna happen.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:28 am

Kerravon
There is only one Cyprus . Turkey created a Northern state by force . The International community at large recognises only one Cyprus. The Islamic World Council lists 28 countries as Islamic."Northern Cyprus " is not amongst them.
You state " Let's just formalize what we've already got, because you have no intention of taking the TC's feelings into consideration""
Rubbish , how did you a Non Cypriot living in Australia come to this conclusion.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:34 am

miltiades wrote:Kerravon
There is only one Cyprus . Turkey created a Northern state by force . The International community at large recognises only one Cyprus. The Islamic World Council lists 28 countries as Islamic."Northern Cyprus " is not amongst them.
You state " Let's just formalize what we've already got, because you have no intention of taking the TC's feelings into consideration""
Rubbish , how did you a Non Cypriot living in Australia come to this conclusion.


You cannot just dismiss his arguements he is someone looking from the outside in who has developed his opinions from actions and words instigated by both sides, why do you not want to see what he sees?
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Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:00 am

VP , With all due respect here is a guy that says he is not a Cypriot , posting what I and thousands of Cypriots consider as total anathema for our island. My aspirations for Cyprus have never changed. I have stated many times that I do not see a Cyprus with minorities or majorities. I do not object the slightest at having a T/C as the President of a united Cyprus. For that matter a G/C , Armenian or any other Cypriot whose allegiance is to Cyprus
and not to foreign nations. Any one who suggests that there are two Cyprus is as far as I'm concerned wrong.
The "NCTR" is not a nation but a temporary state until a solution is agreed upon by the people. A nation that calls itself a nation usually is in position to issue its own currency , its own passports and above all it is recognised by the International community. Force the issue until the cows come home , there is is one Cyprus , just as there are Cyprus potatoes , Cyprus Bamies , Cyprus halloumi , Cyprus Wine etc etc.

May I thank you for recognising the need to behave in an accepted manner and coming to the defence of civility.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:23 am

miltiades, the Vatican, San Marino and a few south American countries do not issue their own money just like us, we issue passports and international community have to deal with us when address them, this is becoming more and and more clear and indication being the EU office in the north.

Your we are all Cypriots vision is like 30 years down the line after or if we ever reunite, the cold reality of division stares you in the face yet you choose to ignore it as we choose not to recognize the "RoC", these are choice made by both communities. What the world will come to realize over the years if the current stalemate continues is that there are 2 countries on the island to 2 people who cannot unite as one, then will come the day when GCs like Piratis, Kifeas and Pyro the hardliners will regret their mindset of today.
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Postby humanist » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:42 am

Congratulations to keravon for their perfect native Engish speaking skills. What the hell was that coment for mate?
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