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Postby Sotos » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:07 pm

And you call yourself a Christian? Do you support Bush also?
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Postby kerravon » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:07 pm

Piratis wrote:What does it mean "conquer the TC"?

Make the TC live under GC rule.

The TCs are here because Turks conquered us, not the other way around. Is it our fault that because the Turks wanted to conquer us and exploit us that now a Turkish minority exists on the island? We don't want to "conquer" foreign lands, we want our own land, where we have 3500 history, and which is now illegally occupied by a foreign country, to be return to us.

Once again, you're living in the past instead of the present. If you want to integrate with these people, you need to fix yourself first.

TCs will not be "conquered". They will live in Cyprus just like any other Cypriot. Cyprus is not the only country with ethnic minorities. (and unlike some other countries e.g. USA, our major ethnic minority is not a result of us bringing them in as slaves, but on the contrary they came here as conquerors to enslave us)

Yes, you want the TC to live under GC rule as a minority, just trusting that you won't violate their rights, e.g. bring up centuries-old history and use it against them. Yeah, I can see the TC trusting you. Yep, I can see it. I swear, I can see it. If I were a TC, I'd trust someone like you. Yep. Someone who completely imagines things, calls anyone who disagrees with him a "Turk", blames everything on "world powers". Yep. I'd trust you. As far as I could throw you, anyway.

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Postby Sotos » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:08 pm

kerravon = Viewpoint
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:09 pm

Another Turk fanatic disguised.
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Postby kerravon » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:15 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
kerravon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Just as you think you can win you should also consider that you may lose yet again and create a situation of no return.

That is correct. War is a straightforward technical exercise. Turkey is far superior to anything the GC can muster. We should probably look at an independent Northern Cyprus AND NATO protection of Northern Cyprus so that the TC feel fully protected from hostile GC. Rather than my original proposal of protecting the GC from TC.


You are a very brave person indeed to speak out, the response and brick wall you have encountered is what TCs have been facing for over 46 years. Now you realize that uniting with this type of mentality is like jumping into a dark hole and surrending your future to GCs, which we will never do.

Thankyou. I must say I'm not a big fan of Turkey. I support the free world, ie the green countries on that map, and Turkey isn't one of them. I don't like Turkey's anti-Americanism and backward religion either. I wouldn't let them into the EU if I were European.

However, the hostile response from the GC and brick wall you mentioned has made me change my mind about where the problem lies. I didn't like Annan's plan that involves Turkish troops remaining, but now I see why you need them. They're the only people you can trust. And I don't want you to live in fear. I'm skeptical that these GC are representative of the majority GC though. After all, lots of GC voted for the reunification plan that left Turkish troops in Northern Cyprus. How many more GC would vote for my plan, which has the Turkish military departing? Perhaps a majority.
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Postby kerravon » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:17 pm

Sotos wrote:And you call yourself a Christian?

Nope, I believe in the use of violence.

Do you support Bush also?

I certainly do. He liberated 52 million people from state-slavery, more than anyone else has done for a very long time.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:20 pm

kerravon wrote:
Sotos wrote:And you call yourself a Christian?

Nope, I believe in the use of violence.

Do you support Bush also?

I certainly do. He liberated 52 million people from state-slavery, more than anyone else has done for a very long time.


enough said about this person.
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Postby Sotos » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:24 pm

kerravon wrote:
Sotos wrote:And you call yourself a Christian?

Nope, I believe in the use of violence.

Do you support Bush also?

I certainly do. He liberated 52 million people from state-slavery, more than anyone else has done for a very long time.


I thought so! I understood what kind of person you are from the beginning. But you might not be a Turkish nationalist after all. You are something worst!
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:34 pm

kerravon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kerravon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Just as you think you can win you should also consider that you may lose yet again and create a situation of no return.

That is correct. War is a straightforward technical exercise. Turkey is far superior to anything the GC can muster. We should probably look at an independent Northern Cyprus AND NATO protection of Northern Cyprus so that the TC feel fully protected from hostile GC. Rather than my original proposal of protecting the GC from TC.


You are a very brave person indeed to speak out, the response and brick wall you have encountered is what TCs have been facing for over 46 years. Now you realize that uniting with this type of mentality is like jumping into a dark hole and surrending your future to GCs, which we will never do.

Thankyou. I must say I'm not a big fan of Turkey. I support the free world, ie the green countries on that map, and Turkey isn't one of them. I don't like Turkey's anti-Americanism and backward religion either. I wouldn't let them into the EU if I were European.

However, the hostile response from the GC and brick wall you mentioned has made me change my mind about where the problem lies. I didn't like Annan's plan that involves Turkish troops remaining, but now I see why you need them. They're the only people you can trust. And I don't want you to live in fear. I'm skeptical that these GC are representative of the majority GC though. After all, lots of GC voted for the reunification plan that left Turkish troops in Northern Cyprus. How many more GC would vote for my plan, which has the Turkish military departing? Perhaps a majority.


The remaining soldiers would have been symbolic at 650tcs and 950gcs which could once trust was established have been abolished all together but that opportunity has now passed and we have stalemate which in many ways is better than reunification where we will be reduced to a minority status left to the mercy of GC administered human right and democracy in our own country. We will not put our future solely in the hands of GCs, they have to realize that they have to share political power and the island with us the TC and this they are not willing to do. So we are kidding ourselves when made to measure plans are put forward where TCs are treated as equals these will be rejected by GCs time and time again just like the AP. When the world realizes what many TCs realized that reunification with GCs is impossible based on first hand experience will they finally make the move to recognize us in our current state.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:35 pm

Keravon , I think you are a little confused a break might do you a world of good. Your intricate knowledge of the Cyprus problem from a scale of 1 to 10 is between 1 and 0 . Why not come up with another solution , after you had a good rest .
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