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[Eliko]

miltiades, the chequered history of America, (short as it is), reveals one of THE most well documented examples of 'Ethnic Cleansing' ever known to mankind.

Subsequent to the murderous annihilation of the indigenous population, they proceeded to destroy their own kind in a bloody 'Civil War'.

The 'Slave Trade' was a flourishing business prior to the formation of the 'United States' of America and it's abolition was probably (in humanitarian terms), the best thing to emerge from the awful conflict.

The American 'culture' then entered it's 'seething cauldron' period, during that time the negro population suffered alarmingly at the hands of the 'Superior' white population, racial hatreds developed on a scale such had never been seen before, indeed, one could say that 'Racism' was spawned in America, (another of it's attributes) which can be duly added to all the other decadent characteristics.

The respectability of the nation began it's slide into the abyss it now generally occupies, BUT, it made one serious mistake, instead of annihilating the negro population, it allowed them to survive, not through kindness mark you, rather through it's inability to drag the 'culture' of that race into the abyss with them.

The result which is perfectly visible, is a division between the black and white 'cultures', whereas the white citizen was offered the easy route to development, the black had to struggle for survival, here's the rub, the black folk remembered their ancestral beginnings and revived the respectability and dignity which was theirs by right, they have maintained that dignity to this day, they will continue to do so because of those attributes and YES, there is a vast difference between the two 'cultures' of that nation, the whites 'pretend' to offer the hand of friendship to the blacks, the blacks 'mean' it when they offer theirs, only a complete fool, (or a politician), would be unable to see it.

The term 'Multi-cultural' fits most of the Western and other nations, if I were a black descendant of slavery, I would certainly be offended to be included in such a stew-pot, I think I would prefer to join hands with the descendants of the Red Indian and quietly maintain the dignity inherent in being such a one.

Now Sir, which of the 'cultures' would YOU consider 'Superior'?.

[GorillaGal]

On page 3 of this topic, GorillaGal and karma exemplify the mind-set of the typical American female, such banter only highlights the decadence of that nation, they will argue that it is their right and that it is an example of their 'freedom', the truth is that it reveals a lack of respectability between them.

GorillaGal is old enough to know better, karma might have been led into it.

Hey Eliko, it is ok if you pick on me, you have made yourself quiet clear in your dislike of me, however, there is no need to start picking on Karma. She is, after all, "one of your kind," meaning she is not an american....
Karma is innocent, as we were only playing, maying light of a situation that was getting a little heavy.
there was a thread not too long ago about the age differences in men and women, and that was was more or less a reflection on that thread. it does not mean that either myself or Karma are people with little morals. it is true, however, that according to your standards, the rules i live by are much "looser" than yours. that does not make me a bad person. it just makes me enjoy life alot more than you do. it does not mean i don't respect others, not at all. i just have my own standards and ethics, which are, obviously, much different from yours.
thank goddess for that!

[GorillaGal]

eliko,
you spend alot of time passing judgement on people, don't you? there is probably better things you could do with your time.
XXX
GG

[Eliko]

GorillaGal, I find myself defending my corner once again, I did not pass any judgements on you, nor did I pass any on karma, I merely illustrated what I believe to be the general mind set of American society, in this case particularly the female citizens, I made the comparison because it is so obviously at odds to the female citizens in Iraq and other Eastern countries, which is basically what is under discussion here.

I do not dislike you, I don't think I have ever said I do, you may have gathered that opinion from some of my responses due to the fact that you do not absorb what I am trying to explain to you.

My position in this subject is quite clear and I think I have made it so, you have made yours also and I must say I am not in agreement with you on several issues, that does not make me right, but I would feel a little happier if you could PROVE me wrong.

I have based all my comments on practical experiences, it is very annoying to be constantly rebuffed by insult and abuse, I keep my own counsel in such circumstances and do not respond in like manner.

If I have ever insulted you, I offer you my apologies with the assurance that such would not be my intention as there is no room for such in the process of a civilised discussion.

I am a perfectly happy person, following a very worthwhile career and only subjected to some unhappiness when I am obliged to perform such tasks as my profession requires in situations as in Iraq.

Hoping I have cleared the air a little, good luck and best wishes to you. X

[GorillaGal]

GorillaGal, I find myself defending my corner once again, I did not pass any judgements on you, nor did I pass any on karma, I merely illustrated what I believe to be the general mind set of American society, in this case particularly the female citizens, I made the comparison because it is so obviously at odds to the female citizens in Iraq and other Eastern countries, which is basically what is under discussion here.

I do not dislike you, I don't think I have ever said I do, you may have gathered that opinion from some of my responses due to the fact that you do not absorb what I am trying to explain to you.

My position in this subject is quite clear and I think I have made it so, you have made yours also and I must say I am not in agreement with you on several issues, that does not make me right, but I would feel a little happier if you could PROVE me wrong.

I have based all my comments on practical experiences, it is very annoying to be constantly rebuffed by insult and abuse, I keep my own counsel in such circumstances and do not respond in like manner.

If I have ever insulted you, I offer you my apologies with the assurance that such would not be my intention as there is no room for such in the process of a civilised discussion.

I am a perfectly happy person, following a very worthwhile career and only subjected to some unhappiness when I am obliged to perform such tasks as my profession requires in situations as in Iraq.

Hoping I have cleared the air a little, good luck and best wishes to you. X

Eliko,
you stated on page 4 of this thread that [Karma and i] "lack...respectability" and that i am "old enough to know better." i take that as an insult.
furthermore, you insult my people (Americans), you call us decadent, bullies, murderers, cowards, inferior, to name a few. i take that as an insult. i find it racist to judge the american people like that. for this reason, i come off a little strong at times with the insults, such as when i said cypriots are all inbred. it was meant in jest, to point out just how stupidly silly some of your comments can be. it's ok if you want to insult my president. he IS a jerk, and deserves every insult and joke that is aimed at him. but don't dis my peeps.... and that includes Karma! She is one of the sweetest, innocent people on this board!
XXX
GG

[miltiades]

Gorillagal , why the hell are you allowing your self to be adopt defensive postures against stupid accusations from an educated baffoon , just laugh it of and treat it with the contempt that it deserves. Poor little Eliko is confused and rather intimitaded so he reverts to nonsensical equations and comparisons that are not only absurdly moronic but quite laughable. Just look at this nonsense """""in this case particularly the female citizens, I made the comparison because it is so obviously at odds to the female citizens in Iraq """
My dear Eliko , the women of Iraq are still living in medieval times , do not even the right to worship their false faith , like all faiths , amongst their men folk. They are heavily sedated by a weapons of mass brainwashing , cant even go out and enjoy a glass or two two of wine with their girls friends , neither can they enjoy a splash in the sea to cool down , cause my dear they are backward .Their world is the 20th century BC.
Do us a favour little man , take a well earned , or a well required rest .Contrary to popular belief , let me say that there is no fool like nan educated fool.

[Eliko]

miltiades, you even distort old adages, I believe the accepted one is:-

There is no fool like an OLD fool.

[GorillaGal]

there you go eliko, insulting miltiades, and in the next entry you will say you only respect him to the fullest because of his age. your halo must be really blinding in your mind.

[Eliko]

miltiades, the women of Iraq are perfectly entitled to practice their faith and do so with obvious devotion.

Segregation in the Mosque, ensures that there are no distractions between the worshipper and the worshipped.

The women do not take alcoholic drinks, I believe it dulls the senses and produces unwanted side and after effects.

The women do not expose their bodies in naked abandon, they consider it to be offensive and culturally undesirable.

The Iraqi population generally (vast majority) are unable to 'cool down' in the sea, look at the map miltiades.

Now let us look at your cultural attributes, we will visit Ayia Nappa in the high season and witness the 'freedom' exhibited there.

By day, topless women parading and flaunting their bodies in front of innocent children, smoking and drinking alcoholic drinks, using foul language and generally enjoying their perceived 'freedoms'.

By night, women staggering half naked around the town in a drunken stupour, vomitting and falling down, using bad language and having a whale of a time before bedding down with any 'lucky lad' that might grab them off.

NOT the kind of behaviour wanted in respectable countries I imagine, decadence in your own country miltiades, do you accept it?.

I write this as an observer and relate to you the opinions I have received from those who find unruly behaviour offensive.

[GorillaGal]

miltiades, the women of Iraq are perfectly entitled to practice their faith and do so with obvious devotion.

Segregation in the Mosque, ensures that there are no distractions between the worshipper and the worshipped.

The women do not take alcoholic drinks, I believe it dulls the senses and produces unwanted side and after effects.

The women do not expose their bodies in naked abandon, they consider it to be offensive and culturally undesirable.

The Iraqi population generally (vast majority) are unable to 'cool down' in the sea, look at the map miltiades.

Now let us look at your cultural attributes, we will visit Ayia Nappa in the high season and witness the 'freedom' exhibited there.

By day, topless women parading and flaunting their bodies in front of innocent children, smoking and drinking alcoholic drinks, using foul language and generally enjoying their perceived 'freedoms'.

By night, women staggering half naked around the town in a drunken stupour, vomitting and falling down, using bad language and having a whale of a time before bedding down with any 'lucky lad' that might grab them off.

NOT the kind of behaviour wanted in respectable countries I imagine, decadence in your own country miltiades, do you accept it?.

I write this as an observer and relate to you the opinions I have received from those who find unruly behaviour offensive.

they don't do that because they can't. it's nice to have a choice.