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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:31 am

Good morning Miltiades: you say " Correction Halil. GR does not represent the opinions of all Cypriots "

But he talks for all the armed reservists. As long as the guns are not to be used against TCs thats fine with me. I think they will just rust away - I hope they will not be needed and do not fall in to the hands of EOKA C..D.......X,Y,Z whatever!!
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:38 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Good morning Miltiades: you say " Correction Halil. GR does not represent the opinions of all Cypriots "

But he talks for all the armed reservists. As long as the guns are not to be used against TCs thats fine with me. I think they will just rust away - I hope they will not be needed and do not fall in to the hands of EOKA C..D.......X,Y,Z whatever!!
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My dear friend , we all know that our island is bristling with weapons , what we all hope is that the time to use them will never ever come .
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:41 am

[quote="miltiades"][quote="denizaksulu"]Good morning Miltiades: you say " Correction Halil. GR does not represent the opinions of all Cypriots "

But he talks for all the armed reservists. As long as the guns are not to be used against TCs thats fine with me. I think they will just rust away - I hope they will not be needed and do not fall in to the hands of EOKA C..D.......X,Y,Z whatever!!
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My dear friend , we all know that our island is bristling with weapons , what we all hope is that the time to use them will never ever come .[/quote]


Good morning Miltiades, That is just what I said. Lets hope.
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Postby Eliko » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:16 pm

Eliko wrote:miltiades, you again infer that I support the attrocities occuring in Iraq and elsewhere, I think I have made it quite clear that I do not.

Unfortunately, you have proven on numerous occasions that you are unable to grasp the fundamental issues in several posts.

You have rigidly fixed ideas and cannot see that YOU are the only one suffering from the disease of 'ALLEGIANCE',
(if we may term it as such) whereas I am not concerned with loyalties, only in discovering the 'Root Causes'.

I am well aware of the unjustified attacks perpetrated by the U.S.A. on a defenceless civilian population, as are most 'THINKING' human beings, YOU being one of the exceptions of course, nothing unusual there then, 'eh ?...... :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:



I wonder if you aware of the book written by 'Brendan O'Malley ?, it is a very well written account of the involvement of both the USA and the UK in formulating the events which led up to the invasion of Cyprus, (and before), perhaps you would not regard the USA with such undying loyalty if you DID avail yourself of that pleasure Sir.

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Postby Southerner » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:51 pm

Eliko wrote:
Eliko wrote:I wonder if you aware of the book written by 'Brendan O'Malley ?, it is a very well written account of the involvement of both the USA and the UK in formulating the events which led up to the invasion of Cyprus, (and before), perhaps you would not regard the USA with such undying loyalty if you DID avail yourself of that pleasure Sir.
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We put it on the shelf with "Who killed JFK," "Who killed Diana," "Where is Lord Lucan," " Elvis is Making a Comeback," Who killed Cock Robin,"

You get the meaning?
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Postby Eliko » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:03 pm

Southerner, very clever of you to consign the book to a place which you consider to be appropriate, the only fly in the ointment being that the book contains some documented proof of political underhandedness.

I try not to include the statements of politicians in any of my posts, miltiades on the other hand, often relies on such statements whenever he wishes to press a point.

My own view is that we all know of the connivances practiced by our politicians, we have all witnessed the results and some unfortunates have suffered severely as a result of them.

I just cannot understand how any person (other than a citizen of America) can be so besotted by that nation, there is so much evidence available to discredit them.

Perhaps you should re-consider your judgement, or do you also uphold the actions of the US in IRAQ ?.

Since my comment was directed at 'miltiades' I wonder why you began your response with 'WE', does that mean that you are in sync with him ?, two musicians playing the same tune I think.

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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:09 pm

denizaksulu wrote:But he talks for all the armed reservists. As long as the guns are not to be used against TCs thats fine with me. I think they will just rust away - I hope they will not be needed and do not fall in to the hands of EOKA C..D.......X,Y,Z whatever!!

They come with a maintenance kit which we use to keep them in good condition... :lol:

Once again I'm stating a fact... I ain't bitching here! :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:13 pm

Eliko wrote:Since my comment was directed at 'miltiades' I wonder why you began your response with 'WE', does that mean that you are in sync with him ?, two musicians playing the same tune I think.
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Postby Southerner » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:02 pm

Eliko wrote:Southerner, very clever of you to consign the book to a place which you consider to be appropriate, the only fly in the ointment being that the book contains some documented proof of political underhandedness.

I try not to include the statements of politicians in any of my posts, miltiades on the other hand, often relies on such statements whenever he wishes to press a point.
My own view is that we all know of the connivances practiced by our politicians, we have all witnessed the results and some unfortunates have suffered severely as a result of them.
I just cannot understand how any person (other than a citizen of America) can be so besotted by that nation, there is so much evidence available to discredit them.
Perhaps you should re-consider your judgement, or do you also uphold the actions of the US in IRAQ ?.
Since my comment was directed at 'miltiades' I wonder why you began your response with 'WE', does that mean that you are in sync with him ?, two musicians playing the same tune I think.
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Eliko, this is why things get out of hand, the 'we' was a colloquial term, I was not refering to Miltiades. There are books on just about every controversial subjet most of them are full of reports/quotes etc, the truth is that many have had the context changed to suit the author of that particular book. The real truth only appears years later in the UK when documents become declassified under the freedom of informatio act.
I am not besotted with the US in fact I find that in many ways it leave much to be desired; but doesn't that apply to most countries?
I used in a previous reply a quotte by Jesus, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", that would be my view regardless of who said it.
I thought that recently we were exchanging differing views in an amicable manner, that was until Get Real "Rebel without a clue" jumped in with the stupid infantile remark about me being a musician.
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Postby Eliko » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:38 pm

Southerner, no offence to you intended I assure you, I was a little taken aback by your dismissal of the book I mentioned for precisely the reasons you now mention regarding declassification of documents.

There ARE such documents in that book AND they do illustrate the chicanery of both US/UK in dealing with, (in fact creating) the entire process of ensuring the division of Cyprus.

I felt obliged to draw miltiades's attention to it's contents since he continuously upholds the actions of the US, regardless of whatever evidence there may be for NOT doing so.

The fact that I strongly disapprove of much the USA does, convinces miltiades that I must be a terrorist sympathiser and hater of all things West, the poor man does not have the capacity to understand the meaning of what is written and usually issues his 'well rehearsed' tirades of abuse in reply to all and sundry.

I thought that the book might give him some insight of what he is dealing with whilst 'Ranting' in their defence. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
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