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[shahmaran]

Reminder to all that this thread is about...

Kurdish Republic of Eastern Turkey

No! The point was that, you, with no absolute proof what so ever, were trying to be smart by trying to justify the existence of "Kurdistan" by juxtaposing the rights of the Kurds with the rights of the GC's, through the argument that they were both the "indigenous people" of their current locations and there fore they should have a natural right to the land, and i have just explained to you why that is not possible!

Thats why it is in the RIGHT thread!

First time when i read your argument i actually blew in laughter covering my monitor in saliva, thats how much of a ridiculous comparison it was, not only the comparison but also the fact that you have taken your sweet time to actually prepare such crap, and judging by your insults towards me i can assume that you have started to see it yourself as well

[DT.]

You're quite right Shah - when referring to a person (or people) as indigenous it implies of aboriginal origin. Are the Kurds aboriginal?

Behave StuartN. Stop confusing the lad. Ofcourse they ( the Kurds) are not 'original Ozzies.

But Shahmaran does have a point when he says that is is a rare occurrence to find purely 'indigenious' peoples. By my reckoning, a large number of Cypriots whether GC or TC do fall into this category. The rest will have additional 'flavour' from Turkey, Greece and to a smaller extent other neighbouring Levantine countries. Now, who is going to 'shoot' me down first? I hope its a GC

shah has missed my point. I'm saying that the Kurds live on the lands they demand for self determination. The TC's however where never the population of the lands that they proclaimed self determinatipn on. The majority population on those lands was GC.

Conclusion...Kurds do not need to wipe out anyone to claim their lands....TC's needed to wipe out 80% of the population from the land they now proclaim as their own.

[denizaksulu]

[quote="GreekForumer"][quote="StuartN"]GR - can you point me to any papers confirming that GC's are aboriginal?[/quote]

StuartN, this is a map of the Greek speaking world in 500BC.

[img]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5687/kish0234ue9.gif[/img]

Looking at that map, would you describe "The Greeks" as

1. indigenous
2. sea faring traders and colonists and settlers
3. empire building murderers and thieves

What is the [b]fairest description[/b] for "the Greeks" ?

[size=18][color=red]Hint : Notice Cyprus, Sicily, Corsica and Sardinia are not completely coloured "Greek" ? What does that tell you ?[/quote][/color][/size]


Unfinished Archaelogy. No?

[StuartN]

Shah - you must realise that non GC's are only permitted in this forum on suffrance. It is widely known that non GC's know little about anything and are ill-educated numbskulls. GC's will often point this out to you. Nor will you be allowed to have the last word on any thread.

...............(waits for incoming invective)..........

[DT.]

You're quite right Shah - when referring to a person (or people) as indigenous it implies of aboriginal origin. Are the Kurds aboriginal?

Behave StuartN. Stop confusing the lad. Ofcourse they ( the Kurds) are not 'original Ozzies.

But Shahmaran does have a point when he says that is is a rare occurrence to find purely 'indigenious' peoples. By my reckoning, a large number of Cypriots whether GC or TC do fall into this category. The rest will have additional 'flavour' from Turkey, Greece and to a smaller extent other neighbouring Levantine countries. Now, who is going to 'shoot' me down first? I hope its a GC

shah has missed my point. I'm saying that the Kurds live on the lands they demand for self determination. The TC's however where never the population of the lands that they proclaimed self determinatipn on. The majority population on those lands was GC.

Conclusion...Kurds do not need to wipe out anyone to claim their lands....TC's needed to wipe out 80% of the population from the land they now proclaim as their own.

i've clearly explained Stu, whats your problem?

[shahmaran]

You're quite right Shah - when referring to a person (or people) as indigenous it implies of aboriginal origin. Are the Kurds aboriginal?

Behave StuartN. Stop confusing the lad. Ofcourse they ( the Kurds) are not 'original Ozzies.

But Shahmaran does have a point when he says that is is a rare occurrence to find purely 'indigenious' peoples. By my reckoning, a large number of Cypriots whether GC or TC do fall into this category. The rest will have additional 'flavour' from Turkey, Greece and to a smaller extent other neighbouring Levantine countries. Now, who is going to 'shoot' me down first? I hope its a GC

shah has missed my point. I'm saying that the Kurds live on the lands they demand for self determination. The TC's however where never the population of the lands that they proclaimed self determinatipn on. The majority population on those lands was GC.

Conclusion...Kurds do not need to wipe out anyone to claim their lands....TC's needed to wipe out 80% of the population from the land they now proclaim as their own.

Oh quit your whining! We did not wipe anyone out, if we did wanted to we would have done it long ago, unlike your sorry attempt of a genocide. All we did was move you south, and judging by the map that GreekForumer posted, it looks like you guys actually belong to the north and not to the south, oh dear me, pack your shit boys we have made a mistake!

ps. the Kurds (or the extreme ones at least) did murder almost 40,000 Turks only with in the last decade, not counting the uprisings during Ataturks time, thats why you love the PKK so much have you forgotten??

[Get Real!]

Reminder to all that this thread is about...

Kurdish Republic of Eastern Turkey

No! The point was that, you, with no absolute proof what so ever, were trying to be smart by trying to justify the existence of "Kurdistan" by juxtaposing the rights of the Kurds with the rights of the GC's, through the argument that they were both the "indigenous people" of their current locations and there fore they should have a natural right to the land, and i have just explained to you why that is not possible!

Thats why it is in the RIGHT thread!

First time when i read your argument i actually blew in laughter covering my monitor in saliva, thats how much of a ridiculous comparison it was, not only the comparison but also the fact that you have taken your sweet time to actually prepare such crap, and judging by your insults towards me i can assume that you have started to see it yourself as well

I haven’t studied the ORIGINS of Kurds as it goes beyond the scope of my interest so I’m unable to discuss it with you and I assure you that I did not blend indigenousness with the creation of a “TRNC” or “KRET”. If I were to do that the TC community would automatically not qualify for any state on Cyprus as they are not indigenous to the island.

[shahmaran]

Reminder to all that this thread is about...

Kurdish Republic of Eastern Turkey

No! The point was that, you, with no absolute proof what so ever, were trying to be smart by trying to justify the existence of "Kurdistan" by juxtaposing the rights of the Kurds with the rights of the GC's, through the argument that they were both the "indigenous people" of their current locations and there fore they should have a natural right to the land, and i have just explained to you why that is not possible!

Thats why it is in the RIGHT thread!

First time when i read your argument i actually blew in laughter covering my monitor in saliva, thats how much of a ridiculous comparison it was, not only the comparison but also the fact that you have taken your sweet time to actually prepare such crap, and judging by your insults towards me i can assume that you have started to see it yourself as well

I haven’t studied the ORIGINS of Kurds as it goes beyond the scope of my interest so I’m unable to discuss it with you and I assure you that I did not blend indigenousness with the creation of a “TRNC” or “KRET”. If I were to do that the TC community would automatically not qualify for any state on Cyprus as they are not indigenous to the island.

My god GR! you are much thicker then i suspected! Or maybe you are smoking some of that fine heroin you have imported from us

Read again what indigenous means and come back...

[StuartN]

...and GC's are autochthonous to the island are they?

[Eric dayi]

Reminder to all that this thread is about...

Kurdish Republic of Eastern Turkey

No! The point was that, you, with no absolute proof what so ever, were trying to be smart by trying to justify the existence of "Kurdistan" by juxtaposing the rights of the Kurds with the rights of the GC's, through the argument that they were both the "indigenous people" of their current locations and there fore they should have a natural right to the land, and i have just explained to you why that is not possible!

Thats why it is in the RIGHT thread!

First time when i read your argument i actually blew in laughter covering my monitor in saliva, thats how much of a ridiculous comparison it was, not only the comparison but also the fact that you have taken your sweet time to actually prepare such crap, and judging by your insults towards me i can assume that you have started to see it yourself as well

I haven’t studied the ORIGINS of Kurds as it goes beyond the scope of my interest so I’m unable to discuss it with you and I assure you that I did not blend indigenousness with the creation of a “TRNC” or “KRET”. If I were to do that the TC community would automatically not qualify for any state on Cyprus as they are not indigenous to the island.

My god GR! you are much thicker then i suspected! Or maybe you are smoking some of that fine heroin you have imported from us

Read again what indigenous means and come back...

His desperate desire to be acknowledged as a "intellectual genius" has actually turned him in to an "intellectually challenged retard".