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[Piratis]

What happened prior to the 1960 agreements was the struggle of Cypriots for liberation so they could finally also be part of the free Greek Republic, while the TCs had collaborated with the British. I talked about this in my previous post. Apparently you missed it.

Your liberation struggle was tainted with enosis undertones which the TCs opposed and could never accept thats why they had to collaberate with whom ever would stop you from selling them out to Greece.

It was not tainted but dictated to by the Megali idea and ENOSIS.....FULL STOP>

The same was the case for the liberation of Athens, Crete, Thessaloniki, and all other Greek territories and islands. So according to Zan the idea of Greeks being liberated from their oppressors was a crime

Go on Zan, tell us that there should have never been a Greek independent state and all Greek territories should have remained under Turkish rule!

If you will distinguish Cyprus from Athens, Crete etc, then tell me whats the difference? Cyprus was not the only Greek territory where a Muslim minority existed, and in fact Cyprus was under Ottoman rule for much less time than most other Greek islands and territories. So if Athens, Crete etc should be liberated and free united in one Greek state, then why not Cyprus?

[zan]

What happened prior to the 1960 agreements was the struggle of Cypriots for liberation so they could finally also be part of the free Greek Republic, while the TCs had collaborated with the British. I talked about this in my previous post. Apparently you missed it.

Your liberation struggle was tainted with enosis undertones which the TCs opposed and could never accept thats why they had to collaberate with whom ever would stop you from selling them out to Greece.

It was not tainted but dictated to by the Megali idea and ENOSIS.....FULL STOP>

The same was the case for the liberation of Athens, Crete, Thessaloniki, and all other Greek territories and islands. So according to Zan the idea of Greeks being liberated from their oppressors was a crime

Go on Zan, tell us that there should have never been a Greek independent state and all Greek territories should have remained under Turkish rule!

If you will distinguish Cyprus from Athens, Crete etc, then tell me whats the difference? Cyprus was not the only Greek territory where a Muslim minority existed, and in fact Cyprus was under Ottoman rule for much less time than most other Greek islands and territories. So if Athens, Crete etc should be liberated and free united in one Greek state, then why not Cyprus?

The island never belonged to the GREEKs so stop your crap....

[RebelWithoutAPause]

Not my fault you moron.....Thousands of years ago and you would do well to shut up or Alexander might just rear his ugly head

hahaha YOU have the audicity to call ME a moron. The guy who thinks the world existed from 1963 onwards because it suits his warped in the head views. Funny tho, I probably know more about Turkish history then Zan the Fascist does lol.

...and as much I dont buy into the common Greek theory that Alexander the Great was such a good and nice guy, he was a lot more of a noble ruler and better to his subjects then any Turk ruler was.

You should also worry your little head on what you did to me on chrismas eve 1963....

Zan, I wasnt born in 1963 - but if you want to carry on being the dunce that you are...I can take it back to Turkish Cypriot attacks on Greek Cypriots in 1957 and 1958. Dont you get bored of writing the same old garbage Zan?

[RebelWithoutAPause]

The island never belonged to the GREEKs so stop your crap....

The island never belonged to Turkey so stop yours. Or do we have to sit down and explain to you AGAIN the difference between empires and states? OR how long the Greeks have been on Cyprus? Is it too hard for you to comprehend Zan? Do you want a picture / pop-up book to make it that much simpler for you?

[zan]

The island never belonged to the GREEKs so stop your crap....

The island never belonged to Turkey so stop yours. Or do we have to sit down and explain to you AGAIN the difference between empires and states? OR how long the Greeks have been on Cyprus? Is it too hard for you to comprehend Zan? Do you want a picture / pop-up book to make it that much simpler for you?

You do yourself a disservice by trying to enter a discussion and assume that you have he capability MavroDJ...

That is my whole point moron in that I do not care what happened then but from when my first republic was formed ever so that the Cypriot people had control of the island......It is funny to see a monkey like you trying to play with words.....

[RebelWithoutAPause]

So you only care about the years of the republic and onwards - nothing before matters??? Do you take yourself seriously.

Zan, this Mavro DJ earns more in two hours then you get in a month of your benefits lol

[zan]

So you only care about the years of the republic and onwards - nothing before matters??? Do you take yourself seriously.

Zan, this Mavro DJ earns more in two hours then you get in a month of your benefits lol

Working two hours a week does not qualify you as an entrepreneur mate so another myth bites the dust....Still driving your mothers car are you hahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaa!


Now read and understand.....THe Republic was the only time in history when we the CYpriots had control of the island and our own destination.....Shame you guys thought our destination was with ENOSIS and the murder of a third of the people of Cyprus....

[denizaksulu]

Just as an aside in connection with Nikitas's comments about the use of pagan names, I have long wondered about a very provocative street name you can find in the small village of Fasoula close to Limassol. This village is very interesting in a number of regards: it was once a mixed village and seems never to have been given a "pure Turkish" name during the TMT's Turkification programme.

However, Fasoula's greatest claim to fame is that it was one of the last strongholds of the ancient pagan religion at a time when the island was undergoing conversion to Christianity. It was home to the sanctuary of Lavronius Zeus and there was a local cult which worshipped this deity. I have climbed up to where this sanctuary used to be located and there is a marvellous view of Limassol, the salt lakes and Akrotiri peninsula from here.

I think it was in the sixth century that Saint Reginald came here to convert the inhabitants of this village to Christianity. The locals were not interested and quite brutally murdered Saint Reginald. Today in the middle of the village there is a massive church - much larger than the churches you will see in any village in Cyprus - named St. Reginald's. My guess is that this huge church was built to atone for the sins of the villagers for having murdered this saint, whose mausoleum you can visit in the village.

You can find some information about the history of Fasoula from the village's own webiste:
http://www.fasoula.org/users/site/english/history.shtml

What I find really amazing is that, now they have introduced street names to villages the name of the main thoroughfare leadingout of the village in the direction of this ancient pagan sanctuary is: Lavronius Zeus Street! I have always thought this to be a bit cheeky. It even makes me wonder if some people are clandestinely keeping the ancient cult alive.

I hope I am not detracting from the seriousness of this thread with this anecdotal aside.

Personally I welcome any little titbit like this story. Its all part of Cypriot culture. If you have any more gems of this nature feel free to open a thread.

[Nikitas]

Nothing clandestine Tim,

Many pagan traditions continue and are most revered.

Look at the Easter festivities, the holiest time in the Greek Orthodox calendar and then tell me it is not pagan!

The timing of Easter Sunday is intriguing too, the first Sunday, after the first full moon after the Vernal equinox, when spring is at its peak. Just like the pre Christians timed their spring festivals. Easter is the most Greek festival as Christmas is the most Roman.

This is a good tie in with Greekness if you need one.

[halil]

once upon a time there was an island called Cyprus :

İt is true Birkibrisli Gardash,

Now , whats happening in this island . This is very new sample of the situation in old Cyprus. İ wonder how your dream will work in Cyprus.(1960 Consitution )

Potato farmers make new claim on north produce

TURKISH CYPRIOT potatoes are being processed in the Republic and exported to Greece bearing Cypriot labels, media reports claimed yesterday.

Phileleftheros newspaper yesterday reported that in the past two days alone, three containers with 50 tonnes of fresh potatoes passed through the Astromeritis checkpoint and were sent to a Kokkinotrimithia processing factory. From there they were sent to Greece and put on the market.

According to accusations made to the paper by potato growers who were present during the process, the Customs Department and other state services did not check the contents of each container, just the documents and certifications.

The paper’s sources added that Turkish Cypriot potatoes were being sold at 25 cents per kilo packaged, compared to Greek Cypriot potatoes, which are sold at 27.5 cents per kilo unpackaged.

Greek Cypriot potato farmers also claimed that the labelling on Turkish Cypriot potatoes did not specify which part of the island they originated from, just that they were made in Cyprus.

Representing potato farmers, Andreas Karyos said the relevant authorities were not exercising the necessary checking measures, having a knock-on effect on local potato farming.

Agriculture Minister Fotis Fotiou was yesterday unavailable for comment.



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