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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:38 pm

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Do TC's want a United Cyprus or Partition


My understanding and conclussion after a year on this forum, most of the TC's on this forum want partition they want to take what was our and make it theirs, whilst using the RoC, an entity they hate to meet their own personal needs.


But it was OK when the GCs wanted take what was ours and give it to someone else...you have come to realize over the last year the reality of the situation we do not share the same vision or capacity to compromise, a forced union will result in war...why not agree partition and allow all the people to choose north or south, rather than allow one side to dominate or control the other, where there's no trust there no union.


4 years ago 68% of your population voted for union...now all of a sudden we were never meant to unite this island?



Union UN style and rubber stamped by the majority of the world but rejected by GCs who thought they would get a better deal using the EU.


Won;'t get into this again (read my post to expatkiwi regarding the one0sidedness of the AP) But it did prove that the tC's desire union. WHy would you think they'd prefer something different now?


4 years and lack of progress has diminished TCs desire for union, the chasm is wider than ever before and you state that the was not a union plan but division so in fact you are contradicting yourself, according to you we voted for division.
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Postby zan » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:39 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:
Do TC's want a United Cyprus or Partition


My understanding and conclussion after a year on this forum, most of the TC's on this forum want partition they want to take what was our and make it theirs, whilst using the RoC, an entity they hate to meet their own personal needs.


But it was OK when the GCs wanted take what was ours and give it to someone else...you have come to realize over the last year the reality of the situation we do not share the same vision or capacity to compromise, a forced union will result in war...why not agree partition and allow all the people to choose north or south, rather than allow one side to dominate or control the other, where there's no trust there no union.


4 years ago 68% of your population voted for union...now all of a sudden we were never meant to unite this island?



Union UN style and rubber stamped by the majority of the world but rejected by GCs who thought they would get a better deal using the EU.


Won;'t get into this again (read my post to expatkiwi regarding the one0sidedness of the AP) But it did prove that the tC's desire union. WHy would you think they'd prefer something different now?


Did you read up on what Nikitas and I found out about the myth of one sidedness on the Annan Plan........All he could say at the end of it was that it was going to be too slow a proccess.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby DT. » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:40 pm

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:
Do TC's want a United Cyprus or Partition


My understanding and conclussion after a year on this forum, most of the TC's on this forum want partition they want to take what was our and make it theirs, whilst using the RoC, an entity they hate to meet their own personal needs.


But it was OK when the GCs wanted take what was ours and give it to someone else...you have come to realize over the last year the reality of the situation we do not share the same vision or capacity to compromise, a forced union will result in war...why not agree partition and allow all the people to choose north or south, rather than allow one side to dominate or control the other, where there's no trust there no union.


4 years ago 68% of your population voted for union...now all of a sudden we were never meant to unite this island?



Union UN style and rubber stamped by the majority of the world but rejected by GCs who thought they would get a better deal using the EU.


Won;'t get into this again (read my post to expatkiwi regarding the one0sidedness of the AP) But it did prove that the tC's desire union. WHy would you think they'd prefer something different now?


Did you read up on what Nikitas and I found out about the myth of one sidedness on the Annan Plan........All he could say at the end of it was that it was going to be too slow a proccess.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


add the link to the page, I'd like to take a look.
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Postby zan » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:41 pm

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but it was OK when the GCs wanted take what was ours and give it to someone else...you have come to realize over the last year the reality of the situation we do not share the same vision or capacity to compromise, a forced union will result in war...why not agree partition and allow all the people to choose north or south, rather than allow one side to dominate or control the other, where there's no trust there no union.


VP the difference between the not shared vision is that yours is based on racism and hate, how many GC's would your regime allow to return to their homes?

Lets see each TC can now claim their properties, of course that is unfair right.


Zan I missied that one ........ but gettin immune to your sarcasm



So telling us that we cannot play fair is not racism..... :roll: :roll: :roll:

I suppose it could be cancelled out by thinking the same about your regime..which I do!!!



How can you become immune to my sarcasm........It mutates and there is no cure!!!! :shock: :shock:
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:41 pm

humanist wrote:
but it was OK when the GCs wanted take what was ours and give it to someone else...you have come to realize over the last year the reality of the situation we do not share the same vision or capacity to compromise, a forced union will result in war...why not agree partition and allow all the people to choose north or south, rather than allow one side to dominate or control the other, where there's no trust there no union.


VP the difference between the not shared vision is that yours is based on racism and hate, how many GC's would your regime allow to return to their homes?

Lets see each TC can now claim their properties, of course that is unfair right.


Zan I missied that one ........ but gettin immune to your sarcasm


They can return today no one is stopping them, they dont even have to live here 6 months before applying to the property commission.
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Postby DT. » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:42 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:
Do TC's want a United Cyprus or Partition


My understanding and conclussion after a year on this forum, most of the TC's on this forum want partition they want to take what was our and make it theirs, whilst using the RoC, an entity they hate to meet their own personal needs.


But it was OK when the GCs wanted take what was ours and give it to someone else...you have come to realize over the last year the reality of the situation we do not share the same vision or capacity to compromise, a forced union will result in war...why not agree partition and allow all the people to choose north or south, rather than allow one side to dominate or control the other, where there's no trust there no union.


4 years ago 68% of your population voted for union...now all of a sudden we were never meant to unite this island?



Union UN style and rubber stamped by the majority of the world but rejected by GCs who thought they would get a better deal using the EU.


Won;'t get into this again (read my post to expatkiwi regarding the one0sidedness of the AP) But it did prove that the tC's desire union. WHy would you think they'd prefer something different now?


4 years and lack of progress has diminished TCs desire for union, the chasm is wider than ever before and you state that the was not a union plan but division so in fact you are contradicting yourself, according to you we voted for division.


The GC's felt it was a plan for division not the TC's. Every TC I've spoken to has tried to explain to me that it was not a division plan and if i remember correctly you blamed us for rejecting a perfectly good plan to re-unite the island...Who's contradicting now?
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Postby zan » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:42 pm

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:
Do TC's want a United Cyprus or Partition


My understanding and conclussion after a year on this forum, most of the TC's on this forum want partition they want to take what was our and make it theirs, whilst using the RoC, an entity they hate to meet their own personal needs.


But it was OK when the GCs wanted take what was ours and give it to someone else...you have come to realize over the last year the reality of the situation we do not share the same vision or capacity to compromise, a forced union will result in war...why not agree partition and allow all the people to choose north or south, rather than allow one side to dominate or control the other, where there's no trust there no union.


4 years ago 68% of your population voted for union...now all of a sudden we were never meant to unite this island?



Union UN style and rubber stamped by the majority of the world but rejected by GCs who thought they would get a better deal using the EU.


Won;'t get into this again (read my post to expatkiwi regarding the one0sidedness of the AP) But it did prove that the tC's desire union. WHy would you think they'd prefer something different now?


Did you read up on what Nikitas and I found out about the myth of one sidedness on the Annan Plan........All he could say at the end of it was that it was going to be too slow a proccess.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


add the link to the page, I'd like to take a look.


I haven't got time...See if Nikitas will do the honours.....
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Postby DT. » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:43 pm

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:
Do TC's want a United Cyprus or Partition


My understanding and conclussion after a year on this forum, most of the TC's on this forum want partition they want to take what was our and make it theirs, whilst using the RoC, an entity they hate to meet their own personal needs.


But it was OK when the GCs wanted take what was ours and give it to someone else...you have come to realize over the last year the reality of the situation we do not share the same vision or capacity to compromise, a forced union will result in war...why not agree partition and allow all the people to choose north or south, rather than allow one side to dominate or control the other, where there's no trust there no union.


4 years ago 68% of your population voted for union...now all of a sudden we were never meant to unite this island?



Union UN style and rubber stamped by the majority of the world but rejected by GCs who thought they would get a better deal using the EU.


Won;'t get into this again (read my post to expatkiwi regarding the one0sidedness of the AP) But it did prove that the tC's desire union. WHy would you think they'd prefer something different now?


Did you read up on what Nikitas and I found out about the myth of one sidedness on the Annan Plan........All he could say at the end of it was that it was going to be too slow a proccess.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


add the link to the page, I'd like to take a look.


I haven't got time...See if Nikitas will do the honours.....


:roll: :roll: really? Ok what was the name of the thread then...i'll find it.
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Postby zan » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:45 pm

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:
Do TC's want a United Cyprus or Partition


My understanding and conclussion after a year on this forum, most of the TC's on this forum want partition they want to take what was our and make it theirs, whilst using the RoC, an entity they hate to meet their own personal needs.


But it was OK when the GCs wanted take what was ours and give it to someone else...you have come to realize over the last year the reality of the situation we do not share the same vision or capacity to compromise, a forced union will result in war...why not agree partition and allow all the people to choose north or south, rather than allow one side to dominate or control the other, where there's no trust there no union.


4 years ago 68% of your population voted for union...now all of a sudden we were never meant to unite this island?



Union UN style and rubber stamped by the majority of the world but rejected by GCs who thought they would get a better deal using the EU.


Won;'t get into this again (read my post to expatkiwi regarding the one0sidedness of the AP) But it did prove that the tC's desire union. WHy would you think they'd prefer something different now?


Did you read up on what Nikitas and I found out about the myth of one sidedness on the Annan Plan........All he could say at the end of it was that it was going to be too slow a proccess.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


add the link to the page, I'd like to take a look.


I haven't got time...See if Nikitas will do the honours.....


:roll: :roll: really? Ok what was the name of the thread then...i'll find it.


I can't even remember DT and that is the honest truth....I will see later if I can find it and PM you but don't hold your breath...
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Postby humanist » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:46 pm

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So telling us that we cannot play fair is not racism.....

I suppose it could be cancelled out by thinking the same about your regime..which I do!!!



How can you become immune to my sarcasm........It mutates and there is no cure!!!!

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No Zan telling you you can't play fair is NOT racism. Telling someone they cannot live in their home or in their village because of their ethnic and linguistic background is indeed racism.

Think of whatever you like about the RoC government the reality is it is not in breach of any human rights.
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