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Postby miltiades » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:30 am

tessintrnc wrote:DT - sorry, I meant to add that my remarks above were just a small example of the problems that will inevitably crop up and that there is no quick fix. I hope that your problems are solved amicably as soon as possible DT.
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The land registry of Cyprus was put into place during the British rule of the island , the British were , if nothing else , very efficient in setting up administrative infrastructure that is still functioning efficiently today. There is , and there should be no confusion as to who holds the deeds of any property or land in Cyprus , whether in the ROC or the occupied part .
Let us make no mistake about the legal ownership of property in all of Cyprus , that is the registered deed holder , such criteria of ownership is used in every developed nation on this earth .
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Postby halil » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:54 am

humanist wrote:Tess the fact that you choose to live in an illegal state and support it in the way that you do, shows a great del of integrity and bed character. I am sure that you are benefiting from the losess of others hence support the illegalities of the trnc that excludes original inhabitants to meet the needs of people like yourself.


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Tess is living in Ozanköy(Kazafani) it was mixed village .İt's mean TC's has got land in this village as well .No one can ask u or others .Where they can live.İn that village TC's has got rights to live as GC's.It's mean they can sell or rent their own lands to anybody that they wanted. They don't have get any permission from anybody.İ am asking you same question as i asked it before.Definetly you read about TC's villages that have been left in 63's. Have a look at the villages list. take tour time and read it.
What happened those people homes ? Who break down their houses ?
They left their homes since 63.
İ am no telling that same thing must be done to GC's. What i am trying to say is: İf you are really humanist . You should talk about TC's rights as well.İ hope one day they can be judge and they can find the guilty ones at both side.
At the moment according to Third Vienna Agreement TC's moved to Northern part of the island . TC's has got rights to do for living. İt is not the humanitarian way , saying always don't go to noerth .....İt is our land..... stolen land ...... etc....etc. But one thing you never say the people ,
o.k . TC's has got their own lands as well . Why we are interfering in to their living conditions or businesses . The way we are acting against them at the end will increas the gap between two comunities. Some times you must learn to question yourself .

here is the third Vienna Agreement.

The Third Vienna Agreement

Communiqué issued after the third phase of the intercommunal talks in Vienna

The third round of talks on Cyprus was held in Vienna from 31 July to 2 August 1975.

Preliminary discussions were held on the powers and functions of a federal government on the basis of the original Greek Cypriot proposals submitted at the first round, the Turkish Cypriot paper of the 21st of July and the more comprehensive paper presented by Mr. Clerides at this meeting. Further examination of this subject will continue in Nicosia with a view to a final discussion, together with the other aspects relating to the solution of the Cyprus problem, at the next round of talks. Mr. Denktash expressed his views on the comprehensive paper submitted by Mr. Clerides and also on his own proposals for a transitional joint government submitted by him on 18 July. Mr. Clerides referred to his previous position in this regard.


A discussion of the geographical aspects of a future settlement of the Cyprus problem took place. It was agreed that Mr. Clerides and Mr. Denktash would have further private talks on this subject prior to the fourth round of the Cyprus talks with a view to preparing the discussion of this matter which will take place at that time.




In addition the following was agreed:


The Turkish Cypriots at present in the South of the Island will be allowed, if they want to do so, to proceed North with their belongings under an organized programme and with the assistance of UNFICYP.


Mr. Denktash reaffirmed, and it was agreed, that the Greek Cypriots at present in the North of the Island are free to stay and that they will be given every help to lead a normal life, including facilities for education and for the practice of their religion, as well as medical care by their own doctors and freedom of movement in the North.

The Greek Cypriots at present in the North who, at their own request and without having been subjected to any kind of pressure, wish to move to the South will be permitted to do so.

UNFICYP will have free and normal access to Greek Cypriot villages and habitations in the North.

In connection with the implementation of the above agreement priority will be given to the re-unification of families, which may also involve the transfer of a number of Greek Cypriots, at present in the South, to the North.

The question of displaced persons was also re-examined.

Although both sides again affirmed that they were not knowingly holding undeclared prisoners-of-war or other detainees, it was agreed mutually to extend full facilities for searches in response to information given by either side.


Both sides declared that the Nicosia International Airport, which has been repaired by the United Nations under the agreement reached at the first round, can be used, as a first step, by the United nations for its needs.


The fourth round of talks will take place, due to the Secretary General’s commitments in regard to the General Assembly, at United Nations headquarters in New York on 8 and 9 September 1975.

2 August, 1975
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:22 am

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They can return today no one is stopping them, they dont even have to live here 6 months before applying to the property commission.


apply for what mate to get into my own home? VP get real.


I wish you would get real :roll: :roll: Give me a copy of any deals that the "RoC" holds that says I can get into my property???? Haven't got any huh!!!!! So when my sisters neighbor is told to go away and come back when there is a solution then I think the operative word would be "SOLUTION".Stop prating around will you :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:28 am

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And have no representation as a Turkish Cypriot and kiss all my rights under the Zurich agreement goodbye......Listen to the holiday programs leave me and my people out of Cyprus history. Sing the Greek national anthem. Wave the Greek flag and sit in endless corridors waiting for my complaints to be heard and my human rights returned to me in a plastic bag.......Thanks mate but I will have my Zurich Agreement and eat it......


Zan, are you for real mate? what are those rights that have been kissed goodbye, please assume that I amy be the village idiot and name those rights so that I can undertsand.

About the holiday programs you are choosing to create a new country so why should you get a mention. Whats the RoC expected to do providse you with free advertsing for its stolen land. What the hec do you guys want? You yell and scram allegiance to Turksy, you fly Turkish flags everywhere, you have called the occupied area as your republic and then you want free advertisning, go visit your home and pay for it LOL.

Good example start from home Zan I never once heeard you say, well may be we can take the flag down on the mountian and work towarsd a solution because we are Cypiots and we want a united Cyprus. Think about your action before you critise others.

Yes I do believe the RoC needs to change the anthem, and when you take the Turkish flags down then there will be a demand for the Greek flag to disappear also.


See above Mate...

The Zurich Agreement does not exist and neither does the CYPRUS REPUBLIC. My rights were there and are not in the "RoC"..Even a village idiot should be able to see that but a con-man and double glazing salesman will always try and sell you what you DON'T want...


The point about the program was that they did not even show the "RoC" flag but the Greek flag...Wake up pal..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


As for not wanting a solution.....You are so busy trying to sell me shite that you do not listen to what I have been saying for the last two years.... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:31 am

zan wrote:
humanist wrote:
They can return today no one is stopping them, they dont even have to live here 6 months before applying to the property commission.


apply for what mate to get into my own home? VP get real.


I wish you would get real :roll: :roll: Give me a copy of any deals that the "RoC" holds that says I can get into my property???? Haven't got any huh!!!!! So when my sisters neighbor is told to go away and come back when there is a solution then I think the operative word would be "SOLUTION".Stop prating around will you :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Postby zan » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:38 am

Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
humanist wrote:
They can return today no one is stopping them, they dont even have to live here 6 months before applying to the property commission.


apply for what mate to get into my own home? VP get real.


I wish you would get real :roll: :roll: Give me a copy of any deals that the "RoC" holds that says I can get into my property???? Haven't got any huh!!!!! So when my sisters neighbor is told to go away and come back when there is a solution then I think the operative word would be "SOLUTION".Stop prating around will you :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


NO DOUBLE DIPPING ALLOWED



Agreed...So stop asking for the return of Greek property......You can even have my 40+ donums and be happy mate....Forget the double dipping though...You prefer double standards and duel nationality......Was it a moving experience when you were made Greek again.....Wish I could have been there :wink: :lol:
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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:43 am

zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
humanist wrote:
They can return today no one is stopping them, they dont even have to live here 6 months before applying to the property commission.


apply for what mate to get into my own home? VP get real.


I wish you would get real :roll: :roll: Give me a copy of any deals that the "RoC" holds that says I can get into my property???? Haven't got any huh!!!!! So when my sisters neighbor is told to go away and come back when there is a solution then I think the operative word would be "SOLUTION".Stop prating around will you :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


NO DOUBLE DIPPING ALLOWED



Agreed...So stop asking for the return of Greek property......You can even have my 40+ donums and be happy mate....Forget the double dipping though...You prefer double standards and duel nationality......Was it a moving experience when you were made Greek again.....Wish I could have been there :wink: :lol:


I thought your land was in the Green Line?
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:45 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
humanist wrote:
They can return today no one is stopping them, they dont even have to live here 6 months before applying to the property commission.


apply for what mate to get into my own home? VP get real.


I wish you would get real :roll: :roll: Give me a copy of any deals that the "RoC" holds that says I can get into my property???? Haven't got any huh!!!!! So when my sisters neighbor is told to go away and come back when there is a solution then I think the operative word would be "SOLUTION".Stop prating around will you :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


NO DOUBLE DIPPING ALLOWED



Agreed...So stop asking for the return of Greek property......You can even have my 40+ donums and be happy mate....Forget the double dipping though...You prefer double standards and duel nationality......Was it a moving experience when you were made Greek again.....Wish I could have been there :wink: :lol:


I thought your land was in the Green Line?


It is DT...You can have that land as far as I am concerned......With a solution.....I donate to the TRNC/KKTC for those purposes......But not without an agreement...
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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:46 am

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
humanist wrote:
They can return today no one is stopping them, they dont even have to live here 6 months before applying to the property commission.


apply for what mate to get into my own home? VP get real.


I wish you would get real :roll: :roll: Give me a copy of any deals that the "RoC" holds that says I can get into my property???? Haven't got any huh!!!!! So when my sisters neighbor is told to go away and come back when there is a solution then I think the operative word would be "SOLUTION".Stop prating around will you :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


NO DOUBLE DIPPING ALLOWED



Agreed...So stop asking for the return of Greek property......You can even have my 40+ donums and be happy mate....Forget the double dipping though...You prefer double standards and duel nationality......Was it a moving experience when you were made Greek again.....Wish I could have been there :wink: :lol:


I thought your land was in the Green Line?


It is DT...You can have that land as far as I am concerned......With a solution.....I donate to the TRNC/KKTC for those purposes......But not without an agreement...


Actually no one can have that land. You can apply to the un to give it back though. A friend of mine did it with his land in the buffer zone and it worked out well.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:47 am

zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
humanist wrote:
They can return today no one is stopping them, they dont even have to live here 6 months before applying to the property commission.


apply for what mate to get into my own home? VP get real.


I wish you would get real :roll: :roll: Give me a copy of any deals that the "RoC" holds that says I can get into my property???? Haven't got any huh!!!!! So when my sisters neighbor is told to go away and come back when there is a solution then I think the operative word would be "SOLUTION".Stop prating around will you :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


NO DOUBLE DIPPING ALLOWED



Agreed...So stop asking for the return of Greek property......You can even have my 40+ donums and be happy mate....Forget the double dipping though...You prefer double standards and duel nationality......Was it a moving experience when you were made Greek again.....Wish I could have been there :wink: :lol:


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NO DOUBLE DIPPING ALLOWED

Pinocchio, it is in the "Gece Kondu" that GC property has been given away to the TC's and the Aliens from Turkey, who have turned around and sold it to others, so that some can show off what big man they are in their new BMW's, and now some wants to come and claim their properties in the South, because they have used up all their "Haram" money that was ill gotten from the stolen GC Properties. Show me where the same is or has happened in the RoC, other than for public projects. Even for a Paid Propagandist, you should have some degree of dignity to tell the truth, or at least just a tiny little bit to stop your nose from growing any longer.
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