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Postby miltiades » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:46 pm

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DT. wrote:Human Rights Watch

Impressive article :shock:

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/06/23/i ... ers-widens

DT , surely you ought to have realized by now the level of GR's pathological aversion of the USA. He is not alone , many Cypriots .alas, share the conviction that all evil that befalls the world is the fault of America.
Iran , a theocratic dictatorship , on the brink of self destruction , will not stop at just murdering protesters , Iranians who are protesting at the rigged results of this election farce.
The country is slowly but surely approaching the stage where civil war will be seen by many progressive Iranians as the only solution to Iran's drift into the middle ages .


Whoever is involved in this (and I don't believe any other countries are) all you need to look at is what is the objective. Am I going to sit here and argue about a bunch of clerics posing as supreme leaders holding back and keeping down a progressive people like the Iranians? Or am I going to support them in achieving a democratic way of life?

What possible good could come from a theocracy?

As one who is filled with repugnance towards anything theocratic I will follow with interest developments in Iran. There should be no room for theocentric ideology in the 21st century. The progressive world has to admonish in a strong language acts that are reminiscent of the dark ages. It seems to me that the third world ideologists are dictating their irrationality towards "religion" unchallenged and this has to stop.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:24 am

Theocracy, is a system you grew up with Miltiades… how easily you forget the role and influence of the Cypriot Orthodox church during the 20th century! :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:51 am

DT. wrote:Whoever is involved in this (and I don't believe any other countries are)....

Well I’ll be damned… :roll:

Obama Moves to Fund Iranian Dissidents
Despite Claims of Not Meddling, US to Send $20 Million to Opposition


http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/26/obam ... issidents/
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Postby DT. » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:39 am

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DT. wrote:Whoever is involved in this (and I don't believe any other countries are)....

Well I’ll be damned… :roll:

Obama Moves to Fund Iranian Dissidents
Despite Claims of Not Meddling, US to Send $20 Million to Opposition


http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/26/obam ... issidents/


Says who? Jason Ditz, soap dodging extraordinaire?

DO us a favour and find another site apart from this hippy nest to get your news from.

you'll find that the truth is far from what Ditz is saying. Obama has frozen funds for pro-democracy movements in Iran.

Obama Erases Pro-Democracy Money for Iran

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_ ... 27155.html
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Postby miltiades » Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:24 am

Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:Whoever is involved in this (and I don't believe any other countries are)....

Well I’ll be damned… :roll:

Obama Moves to Fund Iranian Dissidents
Despite Claims of Not Meddling, US to Send $20 Million to Opposition


http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/26/obam ... issidents/

There is no excuse whatsoever for the present regime in Iran rigging election results and taking Iran to the abyss that is not that far away.
As for the influence of the Greek Orthodox Church one can understand that in the absence of a political infrastructure apart from AKEL , the people were sucked into the religious " political "arena which was also seen as the righteous Hellenic establishment .

Iran at the moment is under the rule of a totalitarian theocratic regime and history tell us that such regimes bring nothing but pain and suffering for the people governed by such dated anachronistic regimes.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:25 pm

DT. wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:Whoever is involved in this (and I don't believe any other countries are)....

Well I’ll be damned… :roll:

Obama Moves to Fund Iranian Dissidents
Despite Claims of Not Meddling, US to Send $20 Million to Opposition


http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/26/obam ... issidents/


Says who? Jason Ditz, soap dodging extraordinaire?

DO us a favour and find another site apart from this hippy nest to get your news from.

you'll find that the truth is far from what Ditz is saying. Obama has frozen funds for pro-democracy movements in Iran.

Obama Erases Pro-Democracy Money for Iran

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_ ... 27155.html

All Antiwar articles are taken from newspapers DT and in this case the newspaper… “USA TODAY”!

U.S. grants support Iranian dissidents

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... oney_N.htm
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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DT. wrote:I tried to ignore the fact that you introduced Greece into a conversation about Iran and then ask me what compels me to jump to their defense!!(which I wasn't but must admit I'm getting a little frustrated when everything we start debating ends up into a Greece slamming session.) Not that I have a problem with Greece being slammed, just that this is a thread about Iran and here we are talking about Greece again.

I'm gonna have to open up a thread about "carpentry in early 16th century Bavaria" and watch how we direct that one towards Greece as well. :lol:

Once again, Iran who is ran by clerics and its assembly of experts can appoint the top job of Supreme Leader is not a democracy.

Where did you see the democracy in Iran? And feel free to compare to Greece if you like :roll:

Your thread was flawed from the start as it was based on the assumptions that…

1. The election was rigged.
2. The demonstrators are demonstrating for “democracy”.
3. The second placed candidate was proposing democracy!
4. The demonstrators are of any significant number out of Iran’s 70m population!

..and you were totally ignorant of American and Israeli propaganda which obviously did a perfect job to your inexperienced mind.

A total flop of a thread! :roll:


Screw the elections and it seems you're not up to speed with current affairs these days. Switch that channel off from the history channel and watch the news a little. There's a huge wave of demo's going on in Iran that are more than demo's in favour of one candidate. They're snowballing into calls for a democratic govt.

Now, unless you're gonna sit there and tell me these people do not deserve a democratic govt while you shout about it for Cyprus I suggest you move onto another Greece bashing thread with your "experienced" mind.

A dude called the Supreme Leader rules their country and you're telling me about American propaganda?

Oh right… so what you’re saying then is that the demonstrators have changed their mantra from a “rigged election” to “democracy” now have they?

Are these NOT the alleged supporters of the second placed candidate who by the way is anything but democratic??? :lol:


He's taken the role of Lech Walesa for Iran. Here, check out Al Jazeera's news today. I can't believe you're arguing against a people that has been ruled by clerics under inhumane conditions from revolting for a more democratic govt.
:roll:

After the first Iraqi invasion, the US bought out Al Jazeera for their propaganda... that's why its credibility plummeted! :roll:

Now quit propagating American propaganda you silly fuck!


Now we have heard it all! :roll:

Iranian HR and civil liberty violations are all American propaganda, whilst HR abuses by democratic nations such as Greece are fact.... :lol:

You've lost the plot! :roll:
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:29 pm

Get Real! wrote:Hey boofhead,

You need to ask yourself… who is creating this shit and why???


The Iranian youth is trying to topple the Islamic Clerics and supreme leader so that they may have a fairer and more democratic Iran without fear, prejudice or corruption. :roll:

If Cyprus had a similar theocratic, judicial and bogus democracy as Iran, you would do the same or migrate the hell out of there.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:Iranian HR and civil liberty violations are all American propaganda,

That's something you've just manufactured. The issue at hand is the erroneous thread title... "Iranians rioting for democracy". Rioting; the destruction of other people's property spurred on by the US, has nothing to do with "democracy"!!! If anything it VIOLATES democracy.

whilst HR abuses by democratic nations such as Greece are fact.... :lol:

Democratic nations don't behave this way...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

You've lost the plot! :roll:

It looks like the "democratic" Greeks have...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html
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Postby DT. » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:47 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Iranian HR and civil liberty violations are all American propaganda,

That's something you've just manufactured. The issue at hand is the erroneous thread title... "Iranians rioting for democracy". Rioting; the destruction of other people's property spurred on by the US, has nothing to do with "democracy"!!! If anything it VIOLATES democracy.

whilst HR abuses by democratic nations such as Greece are fact.... :lol:

Democratic nations don't behave this way...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

You've lost the plot! :roll:

It looks like the "democratic" Greeks have...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus24484.html

The only thing wrong with this thread is my choice of words on the title which was mistakenly written as rioting instead of demonstrating which is what they are clearly doing.

The second mistake is that the treatment of Iranians by this autocratic regime is being excused by you.
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