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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Get Real! » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:14 pm

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Kikapu wrote: The fact that Iran has been threatening to wipe Israel off the map, is enough of a justification for Israel to defend itself in anyway she deems necessary.!


If gallant Israel gave the smelly Iranians what they deserved maybe the remaining Arab countries would grow up and become civilised.

So military punishment is a civilized act…keep going! :lol:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Schnauzer » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:33 pm

Superstar wrote:
Kikapu wrote: The fact that Iran has been threatening to wipe Israel off the map, is enough of a justification for Israel to defend itself in anyway she deems necessary.!


If gallant Israel gave the smelly Iranians what they deserved maybe the remaining Arab countries would grow up and become civilised.



Unbelievable that anyone should STILL be basing an opinion on the "Wipe Israel off the Map" nonsense.

Making such comments whilst clinging to obvious (and proven) Western propagandist lies, seriously harms your credibility as an intelligent poster. (imho)

Incidentally, it might be worth researching the development of 'Civilization' a little before ridiculing Iran. (just a piece of friendly advice) :wink:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby kurupetos » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:32 pm

God bless Iran. I have sent them the blueprints. :wink:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:30 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
Superstar wrote:
Kikapu wrote: The fact that Iran has been threatening to wipe Israel off the map, is enough of a justification for Israel to defend itself in anyway she deems necessary.!


If gallant Israel gave the smelly Iranians what they deserved maybe the remaining Arab countries would grow up and become civilised.



Unbelievable that anyone should STILL be basing an opinion on the "Wipe Israel off the Map" nonsense.

Making such comments whilst clinging to obvious (and proven) Western propagandist lies, seriously harms your credibility as an intelligent poster. (imho)

Incidentally, it might be worth researching the development of 'Civilization' a little before ridiculing Iran. (just a piece of friendly advice) :wink:


All those who believe if Iran ( with their Hamas & Hezbollah friends) had the means and the opportunity to "wipe Israel off the map", will not do so, please raise your hands.

They don't even need to go that far. All they need to do is set off few "dirty bombs" in Israel, and that will be the end of Israel as we know it.

If you were an Israeli, would you allow such an opportunity to be given to your sworn enemies?

I think not is the answer, but more importantly, I don't think the Israelis does either, which counts far more than what I may think.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Amaroks » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:08 am

Guys, in 2006's war between Hezbollah and Israel, Israel used power you can't imagine and they did not make any victory they did not accomplish anything except destroying the Infrastructure of the country and look at Hezbollah which is a small toy for Iran they are now much stronger than before.

Israel couldn't destroy that little toy, forget the fact that Iran is really far from Israel but that far can be just hundred of meters since south Lebanon is wholly ruled by Hezbollah which is again a toy in Iran's hand.

This is a crazy war if it ever happens, This is not a small kalashnikovs war
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:01 am

Iran for whatever reason...

...the big picture is more complicated than that, and it has been brewing over many years. Turkey and Pakistan will act quickly to join, they will split Afghanistan. They hope the Arab world will follow them, so too the other Middle Countries, like Brazil and China. their war will be purportedly against greed, and as a rallying call it will amass a willing population to fight against Israel, the aggressor.

...not a small war, and entirely possible, one that the Occidental world won't be watching comfortably on TV.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby yialousa1971 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:35 pm

Iran cuts off oil supplies to Britain, France

The move was confirmed by the country’s Oil Ministry, with the spokesman saying that Iran will be “selling its oil to new customers”.

The decision is not expected to have a big impact, as France only bought three percent of its oil − 58,000 barrels a day − from the Islamic republic last year, and Britain buys less than 1 per cent.

But it was seen as a warning shot to other EU nations that are bigger consumers of Iranian oil, including Italy, Spain and Greece. The latter would be the most affected, should Iran go ahead with the cuts, as crisis-hit Greece gets more that 30 percent of its oil needs from the Islamic Republic.

As a whole, the bloc currently buys about 18% of Iran's oil exports. Iran is the world’s 4th largest oil supplier, with China, India and Japan its largest buyers.

Earlier this month, Iran's Oil Minister threatened to cut the Republic’s oil exports to "some" European countries. "We have our own customers … The replacements for these companies have been considered by Iran," Nikzad said.

News of Iran cutting supplies to 6 EU member states caused a lot of concern in Europe – and in world’s markets, with the price of Brent oil jumping above $120 a barrel.

The move to cut supplies to France and Britain appears to be a response to the European Union decision to ban Iranian oil imports. The ban was introduced as a part of ongoing economic sanctions designed to force the Islamic Republic to give up its controversial nuclear program.

The measures have hit Iran’s economy hard, but Tehran has remained defiant and simply responded by ramping up its nuclear activities.

Last week, Iran said it had installed another 3,000 centrifuges to increase its uranium enrichment capabilities.

http://rt.com/news/iran-oil-cut-europe-687/
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:56 am

West’s poker face at Middle Eastern grand chessboard

Published: 19 February, 2012, 20:21

The planned neo-colonial takeover of the Middle East is gearing up. As the heat rises, the West finds it increasingly difficult to proceed with its grab for dominance and maintain a brave face, says political analyst Adrian Salbuchi.

­Things are happening very fast in the Middle East. Tensions are mounting, threats are being made, and strange assassinations are taking place… Even stranger diplomatic, political, global media, military and economic strings are being pulled; sometimes so quickly, that they’re getting tangled! The atmosphere is becoming very rarefied indeed! A bit of historical perspective might even lead you to think we’re re-living August 1939: the last days before World War II.

But what is really happening over there and why? Well, to begin with, we witnessed twenty years during which the US, UK, France, other NATO members, and Israel have variously attacked, bombed and overrun Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, and Palestine almost constantly and unimpaired.

Millions of Muslims have died as a consequence of these aggressions which have been based either on flagrant lies like Iraq’s non-existent WMDs, or Iran’s alleged A-Bomb program. Blatant double-standards make the media systematically ignore Israeli ethnic cleansing in Palestine. Last year we saw a fabricated and engineered social turmoil throughout the region – dubbed the “Arab Spring.”


There is consistent misrepresentation of the true nature of the Middle East conflict, the true goals of its wide assortment of players, and the true root causes of all the violence and turmoil. But now the Western powers are finally confronted with two tough cookies to crack: Syria and Iran. In these conflicts their masks are starting to fall. And when masks suddenly fall, many are caught off-guard showing their real faces.

For example, how will the Western powers now explain to the world that the so-called “Free Syrian Army” – clearly trained, supported, financed and armed by the Western powers’ covert agencies – now counts on the support of Al-Qaeda, of all people! On 15th February, Al-Qaeda’s leader Ayman al-Zawahri called on “all Muslims from Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon” to come to the aide of the “Syrian rebels.”

Well, what a surprise! Wasn’t Al-Qaeda supposed to be leading “international terrorism” against the US, UK, France and Israel? Now, as James Clapper the US Director of National Intelligence told the US Senate Armed Services Committee on February 16, we learn Al-Qaeda is working with a common purpose alongside the US and UK in Syria!


Strange bed fellows you say? I don’t think so…


Lucid observers have known all along that al-Qaeda is a creature of US and British intelligence. Take it from Robin Cook, who was leader of the UK House of Commons & Lord President of the Council in Tony Blair’s cabinet in 2003, but preferred to resign in March of that year rather than support Tony Blair’s poodle-like policy of following Baby Bush to war against Iraq.


He said in an article in the Guardian newspaper on July 8, 2005 that “Bin Laden was… a product of a monumental miscalculation by Western security agencies. Throughout the 80’s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of Mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.”



Al-Qaeda’s promotion from sworn enemy to an awkward but useful ally came in a moment. The Taliban is now no longer the ultimate evil in Afghanistan, but a party to be negotiated with ahead of the US pullout. Things the Western media told us hold true get distorted and mutate into their opposite. Think: how many of today’s other “unquestionable truths” are built on sand of deceit and misconceptions?


For years on end now the US, UK and Israel have threatened Iran with unilateral military attack over a non-existent nuclear threat. However, they look the other way at Israel’s own action-ready nuclear bombs; the Israelis never even bothered to sign the Non-Proliferation Treaty!

Iran’s the threat in the Middle East, you bet! Even though Iran has never attacked nor invaded any of its neighbors in over a century.

But it threatens to “erase Israel from the map”, one would say. It’s another West-falsified “fact”. What President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for in his October 26, 2005 speech quoting Ayatollah Khomeini, was for the need that the “regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time”.
A very different story indeed! Tehran hardly has a monopoly for calling for a regime change in foreign nations. And Washington, London and Tel Aviv are much more vocal in such exercises.


So it all depends on how you report things, and why there are certain things the West prefers not to report. Clearly, Middle East is a complicated geopolitical chessboard, and we must be very sharp and alert to understand what’s really going on.


Keep one thing in mind, though: Americans invented and play poker, which is a game of deceit and lies. The Sassanid Persians from whom today’s Iranians descend invented chess in the 7th Century, which is a game of strategy and intelligence…

Adrian Salbuchi for RT

­Adrian Salbuchi is a political analyst, author, speaker and radio/TV commentator in Argentina. www.asalbuchi.com.ar

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in the story are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.

http://rt.com/news/iran-syria-west-policy-697/
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Kikapu » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:20 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
Superstar wrote:
Kikapu wrote: The fact that Iran has been threatening to wipe Israel off the map, is enough of a justification for Israel to defend itself in anyway she deems necessary.!


If gallant Israel gave the smelly Iranians what they deserved maybe the remaining Arab countries would grow up and become civilised.



Unbelievable that anyone should STILL be basing an opinion on the "Wipe Israel off the Map" nonsense.

Making such comments whilst clinging to obvious (and proven) Western propagandist lies, seriously harms your credibility as an intelligent poster. (imho)

Incidentally, it might be worth researching the development of 'Civilization' a little before ridiculing Iran. (just a piece of friendly advice) :wink:


All those who believe if Iran ( with their Hamas & Hezbollah friends) had the means and the opportunity to "wipe Israel off the map", will not do so, please raise your hands.

They don't even need to go that far. All they need to do is set off few "dirty bombs" in Israel, and that will be the end of Israel as we know it.

If you were an Israeli, would you allow such an opportunity to be given to your sworn enemies?

I think not is the answer, but more importantly, I don't think the Israelis does either, which counts far more than what I may think.


This article just about says it all really, about the Israeli mentality which I have been trying to tell you people, regarding their security.

Israeli minister rejects foreign warnings on Iran

February 22, 2012

JERUSALEM—Israel's foreign minister says the Jewish state will not bow to foreign pressure in deciding whether to attack Iran.

In an interview Wednesday with Israeli Channel 2 TV News, Avigdor Lieberman rebuffed suggestions that American and Russian warnings against striking Iran would affect Israeli decision making, saying the decision "is not their business."

He said "the security of the citizens of Israel, the future of the state of Israel, this is the Israeli government's responsibility."

Israel fears Iran is developing a nuclear bomb, which Tehran denies.

Israel has sent a series of hints that it may attack Iran's nuclear program.

The U.S. and others believe tough economic sanctions must be given time to work. This week, the U.S. military chief said an Israeli attack would be "not prudent."

© Copyright 2012 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middle ... s_on_iran/
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Superstar » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:05 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
Incidentally, it might be worth researching the development of 'Civilization' a little before ridiculing Iran. (just a piece of friendly advice) :wink:


These are the people who stone women and execute homosexuals and you use them as an example for civilisation, are you a disciple of Get Real?
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