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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby kurupetos » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:03 pm

That's wishful thinking, Paul. The new PM said she will be committed to the Brexit process.

You must understand that Britain has decided to cross the Rubicon.

If they ever decide to re-join the EU, that's a whole different process... and that could take time... :wink:
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Londonrake » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:15 pm

Paul ZKTV wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I do think that you will find EU members enter into bi-lateral arrangements with non member countries on all sorts of matters.


NO - any area that is delegated to the EEA ,then they deal with that matter .
the EEA is just the EU for countries where they cant get ppl to vot to go in the EU but the state wants to
the only exception is SWITZERLAND .that has 135 serperate aggrements with the EU over 40 year and still has to let in anyone
who want to go there- and DONT have full access to the money markets ..


http://www.seg-social.es/Internet_6/Mas ... /index.htm


Paul ZKTV wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Maybe the reason you cant understand my posts is that i write for the computer age


No Paul. You have a marked tendency to write gibberish. Like someone whose house is on fire and needs to get out quickly. :D
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Londonrake » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:19 pm

Paul ZKTV wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I disagree with your view that everybody in the leave camp "ran off". Farage had campaigned for all of his political life on the single issue of leaving the EU. He was successful. What was the point of being the leader of the UK Independence Party when the UK was independent? He wasn't a British MP, or even a member of a party which would carry out the exit.So politically in the UK he had nowhere to go. He was an MEP and - as he said many times in Brussels - had made himself redundant. A politician without a home, where did he have left to go?

so why did he not resign as an MEP - Because if the UK leaves the EU he get €157,000 pay off
As for ´when the UK was independent´ - Nothing has happened in law - NOTHING !!

Londonrake wrote:Boris it seems fully intended to stand for Tory Leader but was knifed in the back. I wouldn't call that "running away".
What was a pack of lies? Camoron saying he would stay on and invoke A50 but not doing so? Yes, I think you could class that as "running away with his tail between his legs". Osborne promising a tax hike and spending cuts to punish people if they voted out? it's too soon of course to pass judgment on that sort of thing but then much of the carping by the Remainers is surely too soon also? We have had it incessantly since the ink was barely dry on the ballot papers.


Watch it you almost got emotonial there mr.spock

as for the tories get seats ...
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.


SCOTLAND - all the YES VOTERS VOTED SNP
Party Seats Seats change
SNP 56 50
Labour 1 −40
Conservativ 1 0
Liberal Democrat 1 −10

WHY DO YOU NOT THINK THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN IN ENGLAND ??
THE ONLY ISSUE THAT MATTERS TO THE 18-45s is to stay in the EU
who have only known EUROPA ...
the 45-999 will vote tory/UKIP or labour and split the VOTE



ITS WHAT STARTED THE US CIVIL WAR


august USSR
december RUSSIA ´free´
if that can happen ...



1. GENERAL ELECTION
2. LIBDEM/SNP GOVERNMENT
3. JOB DONE
4. BACK TO NORMAL


:shock: Wow! Calm down mate. You will burst a blood vessel. :D
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:35 pm

The Rubicon begins to be crossed with the invoking of Article 50 and is finally crossed if/when the UK ceases to be an EU member at the end of the subsequent negotiations.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:04 pm

Chris Grayling, a leading ally of incoming Prime Minister Theresa May, has said today:

... Chris Grayling, the Leader of the House of Commons, said there was no hurry to invoke Article 50 of the EU's Lisbon Treaty, which will formally launch the process of separation ...


http://www.firstpost.com/world/article- ... 89536.html

Nope, we don’t appear to be about to start crossing the Rubicon just yet.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Londonrake » Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:13 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Chris Grayling, a leading ally of incoming Prime Minister Theresa May, has said today:

... Chris Grayling, the Leader of the House of Commons, said there was no hurry to invoke Article 50 of the EU's Lisbon Treaty, which will formally launch the process of separation ...


http://www.firstpost.com/world/article- ... 89536.html

Nope, we don’t appear to be about to start crossing the Rubicon just yet.


I thought that had been accepted for some time. May, like Merkel seems to want some sort of "cooling off" period. The latter has said she's quite happy to wait until the UK get's its negotiating act together and has talked about the end of this year as a possibility.

A50 seems quite clear. It's up to the country planning to leave to invoke it, not the likes of Herr Junker, jumping up 'n' down and stamping his feet in Brussels.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby kurupetos » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:30 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:The Rubicon begins to be crossed with the invoking of Article 50 and is finally crossed if/when the UK ceases to be an EU member at the end of the subsequent negotiations.

It's over Tim... The Brits are back in Thames.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:04 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Chris Grayling, a leading ally of incoming Prime Minister Theresa May, has said today:

... Chris Grayling, the Leader of the House of Commons, said there was no hurry to invoke Article 50 of the EU's Lisbon Treaty, which will formally launch the process of separation ...


http://www.firstpost.com/world/article- ... 89536.html

Nope, we don’t appear to be about to start crossing the Rubicon just yet.


I thought that had been accepted for some time. May, like Merkel seems to want some sort of "cooling off" period. The latter has said she's quite happy to wait until the UK get's its negotiating act together and has talked about the end of this year as a possibility.

A50 seems quite clear. It's up to the country planning to leave to invoke it, not the likes of Herr Junker, jumping up 'n' down and stamping his feet in Brussels.


May want's to buy as much time as possible to finds ways to get around the Brexit referendum so not to invoke Article 50. She definitely doesn't have any balls :wink: to invoke article 50, otherwise, why would the UK continue paying into the EU instead of the NHS :D for nothing if she wants to leave the EU? :wink: May knows very well, the moment Article 50 is invoked, the EU will just run out the 2 year time clock and give nothing to the UK. So in actuality, the EU is in no hurry either, because they are collecting their fees from the UK just the same without the UK having a voice in the EU. Talk about the UK getting milked! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:24 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Chris Grayling, a leading ally of incoming Prime Minister Theresa May, has said today:

... Chris Grayling, the Leader of the House of Commons, said there was no hurry to invoke Article 50 of the EU's Lisbon Treaty, which will formally launch the process of separation ...


http://www.firstpost.com/world/article- ... 89536.html

Nope, we don’t appear to be about to start crossing the Rubicon just yet.


I thought that had been accepted for some time. May, like Merkel seems to want some sort of "cooling off" period. The latter has said she's quite happy to wait until the UK get's its negotiating act together and has talked about the end of this year as a possibility.

A50 seems quite clear. It's up to the country planning to leave to invoke it, not the likes of Herr Junker, jumping up 'n' down and stamping his feet in Brussels.


May want's to buy as much time as possible to finds ways to get around the Brexit referendum so not to invoke Article 50. She definitely doesn't have any balls :wink: to invoke article 50, otherwise, why would the UK continue paying into the EU instead of the NHS :D for nothing if she wants to leave the EU? :wink: May knows very well, the moment Article 50 is invoked, the EU will just run out the 2 year time clock and give nothing to the UK. So in actuality, the EU is in no hurry either, because they are collecting their fees from the UK just the same without the UK having a voice in the EU. Talk about the UK getting milked! :lol: :lol: :lol:


I bet they don't even know what kind of a deal they want. Free movement of British people must be one, free movement of British products and services must be another, unified customs tariffs a sure have. Neeeeext!
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby miltiades » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:34 am

The rather unexpected announcement on Monday that Theresa May will today become our new PM has been met with a firm approval, it looks, by the currency markets. The pound has since risen by almost 4 cents of a Euro and like likewise 4 cents of a dollar. Overnight Asian markets have also reacted favourably, the pound now at just over Euro 1.20 and against just over Dollar 1.33.

Mrs May will today officially become our new PM following Cameron's departure from no 10.
Theresa May has impressed me over the last 6 or seven years as Home Secretary. Some of the decisions taken by her, steadfastly refusing the Americans request to extradite a British subject to the States to face charges for computer hacking and also deporting to Jordan the hate cleric Abu SCADATA , have been welcomed by the British people and the media.

Were she to call a general election this year she could easily win taking into account the current sad state of the Labour party.

I do hope that the pound continues to improve over the weeks to come.

It is still far from clear if the government it self can invoke Article 50 or if it requires a Parliament vote.
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