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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:18 am

You got to hand it to Pfizer execs. Hats off to them.

They are very quick, and will make billions.

It’s not their fault the majority of people are dumb and/or slaves. So who can blame them for seeing an opportunity. A great opportunity to line their pockets.

Covid is the greatest business model I’ve seen in a long time. We have a rapidly evolving pathogen, and a vaccine that will always be 10 steps behind it. So we get the jab every six months at $80 a pop. Brilliant!

Currently, Pfizer shares are at $54 USD. The sky is the limit with them.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/PFE/

Time to pull the trigger!
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:26 am

Hates is such a philanthropist. Cares so much for the world.

Line up folks. He got the needle to save your lives.

Oh sorry! In 100 days, line up because your lives depend on it. :D
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:14 pm

These 16 U.S. Citizens Who Left America For Good Are Sharing Their Reasons For Moving And Honestly, It Makes A Lot Of Sense.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/people- ... 02960.html
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:34 pm

Kikapu wrote:
These 16 U.S. Citizens Who Left America For Good Are Sharing Their Reasons For Moving And Honestly, It Makes A Lot Of Sense.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/people- ... 02960.html


Have you been to Australia lately?

Our police make the US Police look like little fairies or pussey cars.

Let me give you a run down. Our police are beating up old ladies, children and virtually anyone on our streets for not wearing a mask or just demonstrating. Police cars have rammed citizens to the ground. They did this to a disabled men before beating him to a pulp. Rubber billets are fired over protesters.

What protests. Well they are happening every weekend now in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and beautiful Adelaide. Crowds are growing to in excess of 100,000. The Sydney protest was reported to be over 1 million people.

Now the police are overwhelmed by the enormity of the civil disobedience. Soon, they will be storming Parlianents around the country - like Capitol Hill.

Things are not good.

Society hasn’t been fragmented like this before and something bad is going to happen.

Right now, Australia doesn’t feel like Australia. Not that I know much about Belarus, but it feels more like that country from what I have seen.

We have military helicopters flying over protesters. You think you are in Israel.

This is what Covid has done to us. People’s homes are raided daily and people are being arrested on trumped up charges.

This is what is happening,

Do a quick search about Australian police brutality. They are not even hiding it, mothers with babies are being arrested for being at a protest. Pensioners are knocked to the ground. You get arrested for carrying a Eureka Frag,

But the protests are getting bigger and bigger. The disobedience more and more.

There are more than 16 Aussies leaving Australia for the US as well. The E3 visas are now being handed out once again like they were pre Covid.

Hundreds of Aussies in my profession alone have left, and hundreds more going in the next months with their kids and families.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:46 pm

Why is it happening. Because we now have Apartheid in Australia.

Literally Apartheid. A 2 tier system.

Americans, who genuinely have a live affair with Australia, are scratching their heads wondering what the hell has gotten into us. We are getting messages of support from the American people.

We no longer have freedom of movement between the states. Some people are being excluded from the workplace and can’t earn a living.

People are being denied medical assistance as Medicos refuse to treat or see some people? Is that a human right. I thought it was.

Stuff like this is happening in Australia.

Certain state governments are in for a very rude awakening.

And the ground is now extremely fertile for a populist government. Clive Palmer, who makes Trump look like a homo, is getting grounds in excess of 100,000 people.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:57 pm

Paphitis, first of all, welcome to the USA when you have/are fully moved there.

No, last time I was in Australia was about 5 years ago and does not seem that I will be returning anytime soon.

My post on the 16 Americans moving out of the US has nothing to do with the problems with the police, but rather, more to do with their quality of life improving having left the US. Having lived in Switzerland since 2004, I can vouch for their experiences.

I personally know an American lady here in Switzerland who not only moved here many years ago, but she has actually abdicated her American citizenship 3 years ago as she has no intentions ever going back again or filing her yearly income tax forms.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:02 pm

Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, first of all, welcome to the USA when you have/are fully moved there.

No, last time I was in Australia was about 5 years ago and does not seem that I will be returning anytime soon.

My post on the 16 Americans moving out of the US has nothing to do with the problems with the police, but rather, more to do with their quality of life improving having left the US. Having lived in Switzerland since 2004, I can vouch for their experiences.

I personally know an American lady here in Switzerland who not only moved here many years ago, but she has actually abdicated her American citizenship 3 years ago as she has no intentions ever going back again or filing her yearly income tax forms.


We have people with low quality of life here too. It’s an expensive country.

If you are on minimum wage, you can barely survive.

Homeless people on the streets too. Total despair,

In the old days, you can work in a factory and earn a good living a buy a house. Can’t do that today.

These 16 people were at lest able to get themselves out of that situation. And where did they go which is better? Can’t be Australia the way things are atm.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:54 pm

Kikapu wrote:
These 16 U.S. Citizens Who Left America For Good Are Sharing Their Reasons For Moving And Honestly, It Makes A Lot Of Sense.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/people- ... 02960.html


I like these reasons best.

I moved to Spain from the U.S. six years ago. As much as I miss the U.S., I have no plans to move back. Healthcare in America scares the bejeesus out of me, especially as I age. I just had surgery on an injury that cost me nothing in Europe.


I live in Berlin. I'm still trying to get used to my five weeks of vacation. All vacation is paid vacation, and it's standard everywhere. I also get a two hour lunch and have a 32 hour work week. This is is literally going to add up to years more with my family. It just makes the quality of life so much better.


But this is horrifying indeed.

In America, the average insured family pays from $10,000 to $20,000 for a normal birth; the national average in the US is $12,000. With private insurance, the average is $9,400.


There was a crazy politician who suggested we can have 32 hour a week here too but nope we voted for the freedom to work 96 hours per week instead.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:03 pm

There are thousands of Americans in Australia and yeh, they love it here.

But there are thousands of Aussies in America, and yeh, we love it there.

America offers something unique. For example. It’s an incredibly beautiful country. People are generally very sincere and polite. And it’s a huge country with so much diversity from New York, To Boston, Atlanta, to LA. Something for everyone.

As for healthcare. Yes you need insurance. Not dissimilar to Australia. I paid nearly $6000 in private health insurance in Australia. Then on top of that, Medicare Levies of about $2000 per year. That’s about the same as what I pay in the US.

The standard of health care when you pay these premiums are second to none. The standard of healthcare in the US is very high standard. The best hospitals are in America. They are just incredibly expensive and out of reach for many people, which makes it quite dire for them. The bottom line is this. If you are insured, you got nothing to worry about. If you are not insured, then you might have a problem, but even then, everyone has access to emergency departments.

But this is for certain, I would not move from America to Spain, France, Italy, Greece or Cyprus unless I was retiring. Those countries don’t come close to the US. I couldn’t care less that Cyprus offers free health. I’d rather pay my $10k in the US. The US gives me the opportunity to be able to afford the $10 and for that money I get the best surgeons in the best hospitals renowned the world over. Far superior healthcare. I just got to pay for it.

In Cyprus or Greece I probably won’t have the opportunities that the US gives. And I would be forced to live a simpler life.

But yes, the US does leave people behind. Who are unable to pay. And yes it’s a tragedy. And very scary for those people. Is it right? Probably not.

The system in Cyprus isn’t better than the US no matter how free.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:24 pm

And of course things are not that straight forward neither as the US has its strengths.

For instance, you may call the US health system diabolical for many. But the US tax system is the best in the world and it’s a low tax country. The tax is barely half of what it is in Australia.

Therefore, more money left in the pockets of the worker,

Let’s analyse it further.

In Australia, I’d pay over $6k in medical insurance. In the US, I pay $10k in insurance. But in Australia, I pay thousands more in tax. In the US, I’d pay thousands less. And this tax saving is well in excess of the $10k

So yeh, it really depends on your circumstances. In my scenario, medical care is more free in the US than Sustralua because of the lower tax rate.

But at the other end of the scale, you wouldn’t want to be a waiter or on minimum wage.

But America still has its advantages. Many advantages too. Advantages which make it attractive.
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