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Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:43 pm

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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Londonrake » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:10 pm

Holbrook Arizona. The "Starman" meteor crater. 16 Aug 2014. :D

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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:00 pm

Did you see the small plane at the base of the crater after it crash landed because it could not fly out after it flew into the creator to take a closer look. :shock:
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Londonrake » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:02 am

Kikapu wrote:Did you see the small plane at the base of the crater after it crash landed because it could not fly out after it flew into the creator to take a closer look. :shock:


No.

You could clearly see where the flying saucer in "Starman" landed though. :D
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:54 am

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Kikapu wrote:Did you see the small plane at the base of the crater after it crash landed because it could not fly out after it flew into the creator to take a closer look. :shock:


No.

You could clearly see where the flying saucer in "Starman" landed though. :D


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I will go through my photos to see if I can find one with the plane at the base of the crater. :D
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:35 pm

Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, the truth is, you are going to have a great time living in the US. It is normal. However, gradually you will be stressed out from the day to day events, may they be overcrowding on the streets, malls, destitute people, massive traffic jams, worries about your kids at school and their comings and goings with their friends because most kids in the stated do drugs in one form or the other, or else they won’t be cool with their friends. They will likelihood brush with the law because of the friends they keep. Your kids will need to become streetwise living in the US quickly as everything will be new and exciting to them and also be very trusting of their bad friends. By the way, this also applies to adults when they first come to the US.

The US has a lot to offer, from things to do, places to visit and foods to eat and drink. I loved living there the 25 years I had spent there and was making 2-3 trips there every year whilst living in Switzerland until recently due to Covid restrictions, now, I much prefer to live in Europe. As long as you can pay for something, you can do it without too much hassle. You want to buy a sailboat and sail around the world, no problem as no license is needed. You want to buy a big bus size RV (recreational vehicle/mobile home) to travel the US, no problem as you do not need a commercial license. Just your car license will do. You want to play golf at public or private golf courses, no problem as you do not need to get a handicap license. Police are basically professionals as long as you allow them to step on your rights. Most things are cheaper than they are in Europe, but so can be the quality too.

One more thing. In America often you do not have friends. What you will have are acquaintances. Big difference, but most Americans do not know the difference, but just know that you can’t count on them in times of need as you would do on real friends.

Enjoy the USA.


Hi Kikapu,

we have family in the US. My domicile is Newark. We at this point will be living in New York. My wife has an uncle, and cousins there. Also her Godsisster is there and we both have friends.

My wife lived in NYC for 2 years. So it isn't unfamiliar territory. My wife loves NYC.

And when you break it down, it's not all that different to Sydney. Traffic jams in Sydney will give NYC a run for it's money because of the way the city is built around the Harbour and Botany Bay, thus so many bottle necks. Plus, there are destitute people in Australia and a lot of crime too.

The other thing is that I believe I have made a couple of very good professional friendships already - more than acqiuaintences. I have literally been overwhelmed with the comradrie and support. I'm finding them extremely friendly and professional.

We have sorted the kids with their future schools, and they will be going private. And there is a massive Greek community to tap into as well.

NYC was not my choice. I prefer california. As I believe california to be very much like Australia. Warm climate, and so on.

US has everything of course. My second preference was denver. Now, that is a pleasant city - so so similar to Adelaide apart from the frigid cold and snow. So you can have whatever you want. So much variety. There are a many cities in the US you can have a good Adelaide like lifestyle. Seatle for instance.

But when I put in my bids, my wife twisted my arm and requested I ask for Newark so we can live in NYC. I got it too, but I have since then tried to change my mind and ask for LA and Denver. But in the end, wife is probably right as we do have family in NYC, plus friends so we should have a vibrant social life there. And it is an exciting place, and very pretty.

We doubt our kids will have any brushed with US Law. They are quite intelligent and well balanced little humans, and very compassionate individuals. Ithink they will have a great time and probably end up being Americanized and not want to come back home to Australia. Hopefully in a few years, they will be citizens too.

We are not unhappy about the move. we only see a big adventure, or so we hope.

My wife, will be left alone for many days per month so it's important she has her support network, friends and family close by. As for me, the job will be tiring when going ex Newark on the usual 4 day cycle with many overnights in other cities. Some days will be ofcouse 5 sectors of short haul or 2 sectors coast to coast. Literally, all you want to do is have some dinner and go to bed to be rested for the same the very next day and a lot of it will also be red eyes as well where your body clock is literally out of whack with the real world.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:02 pm

Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, some of the interesting places for you to visit in the US....more photos to come! :D

Death Valley, California.

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Thanks. I appreciate the photos.

I will hopefully get the time off to see wome of these wonders with the fam.

My daughter has already developed a fascination with Harvard. She has made it clear she want to do university in the States and her ambition is Harvard.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, the truth is, you are going to have a great time living in the US. It is normal. However, gradually you will be stressed out from the day to day events, may they be overcrowding on the streets, malls, destitute people, massive traffic jams, worries about your kids at school and their comings and goings with their friends because most kids in the stated do drugs in one form or the other, or else they won’t be cool with their friends. They will likelihood brush with the law because of the friends they keep. Your kids will need to become streetwise living in the US quickly as everything will be new and exciting to them and also be very trusting of their bad friends. By the way, this also applies to adults when they first come to the US.

The US has a lot to offer, from things to do, places to visit and foods to eat and drink. I loved living there the 25 years I had spent there and was making 2-3 trips there every year whilst living in Switzerland until recently due to Covid restrictions, now, I much prefer to live in Europe. As long as you can pay for something, you can do it without too much hassle. You want to buy a sailboat and sail around the world, no problem as no license is needed. You want to buy a big bus size RV (recreational vehicle/mobile home) to travel the US, no problem as you do not need a commercial license. Just your car license will do. You want to play golf at public or private golf courses, no problem as you do not need to get a handicap license. Police are basically professionals as long as you allow them to step on your rights. Most things are cheaper than they are in Europe, but so can be the quality too.

One more thing. In America often you do not have friends. What you will have are acquaintances. Big difference, but most Americans do not know the difference, but just know that you can’t count on them in times of need as you would do on real friends.

Enjoy the USA.


Hi Kikapu,

we have family in the US. My domicile is Newark. We at this point will be living in New York. My wife has an uncle, and cousins there. Also her Godsisster is there and we both have friends.

My wife lived in NYC for 2 years. So it isn't unfamiliar territory. My wife loves NYC.

And when you break it down, it's not all that different to Sydney. Traffic jams in Sydney will give NYC a run for it's money because of the way the city is built around the Harbour and Botany Bay, thus so many bottle necks. Plus, there are destitute people in Australia and a lot of crime too.

The other thing is that I believe I have made a couple of very good professional friendships already - more than acqiuaintences. I have literally been overwhelmed with the comradrie and support. I'm finding them extremely friendly and professional.

We have sorted the kids with their future schools, and they will be going private. And there is a massive Greek community to tap into as well.

NYC was not my choice. I prefer california. As I believe california to be very much like Australia. Warm climate, and so on.

US has everything of course. My second preference was denver. Now, that is a pleasant city - so so similar to Adelaide apart from the frigid cold and snow. So you can have whatever you want. So much variety. There are a many cities in the US you can have a good Adelaide like lifestyle. Seatle for instance.

But when I put in my bids, my wife twisted my arm and requested I ask for Newark so we can live in NYC. I got it too, but I have since then tried to change my mind and ask for LA and Denver. But in the end, wife is probably right as we do have family in NYC, plus friends so we should have a vibrant social life there. And it is an exciting place, and very pretty.

We doubt our kids will have any brushed with US Law. They are quite intelligent and well balanced little humans, and very compassionate individuals. Ithink they will have a great time and probably end up being Americanized and not want to come back home to Australia. Hopefully in a few years, they will be citizens too.

We are not unhappy about the move. we only see a big adventure, or so we hope.

My wife, will be left alone for many days per month so it's important she has her support network, friends and family close by. As for me, the job will be tiring when going ex Newark on the usual 4 day cycle with many overnights in other cities. Some days will be ofcouse 5 sectors of short haul or 2 sectors coast to coast. Literally, all you want to do is have some dinner and go to bed to be rested for the same the very next day and a lot of it will also be red eyes as well where your body clock is literally out of whack with the real world.



Paphitis, American workers and American companies, unionized or not and especially in the airline and transportation industry as a whole, seniority is everything when all things are equal, which means, you as the "new kid on the block" need to put in your time before you are able to choose to be based in more popular locations.

Given all the family and friends connections your wife has around the New York area, I can see why it makes sense for you all to be there for now. I'm sure eventually you may all want to spread your wings towards the West where landscape is much different than they are in the East and also to have some distant from those in the East. :wink:

Really, wish you all a great start in your new adopted country. Perhaps we will get the chance to have dinner together if you should have an overnight layover in San Francisco (KSFO) / Oakland (KOAK) / San Jose (KSJC) at a time when I am visiting the states. I will give you heads up in advanced when I make plans to come in the future via PM. It may be on short notice sometimes.

All the best.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:38 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, the truth is, you are going to have a great time living in the US. It is normal. However, gradually you will be stressed out from the day to day events, may they be overcrowding on the streets, malls, destitute people, massive traffic jams, worries about your kids at school and their comings and goings with their friends because most kids in the stated do drugs in one form or the other, or else they won’t be cool with their friends. They will likelihood brush with the law because of the friends they keep. Your kids will need to become streetwise living in the US quickly as everything will be new and exciting to them and also be very trusting of their bad friends. By the way, this also applies to adults when they first come to the US.

The US has a lot to offer, from things to do, places to visit and foods to eat and drink. I loved living there the 25 years I had spent there and was making 2-3 trips there every year whilst living in Switzerland until recently due to Covid restrictions, now, I much prefer to live in Europe. As long as you can pay for something, you can do it without too much hassle. You want to buy a sailboat and sail around the world, no problem as no license is needed. You want to buy a big bus size RV (recreational vehicle/mobile home) to travel the US, no problem as you do not need a commercial license. Just your car license will do. You want to play golf at public or private golf courses, no problem as you do not need to get a handicap license. Police are basically professionals as long as you allow them to step on your rights. Most things are cheaper than they are in Europe, but so can be the quality too.

One more thing. In America often you do not have friends. What you will have are acquaintances. Big difference, but most Americans do not know the difference, but just know that you can’t count on them in times of need as you would do on real friends.

Enjoy the USA.


Hi Kikapu,

we have family in the US. My domicile is Newark. We at this point will be living in New York. My wife has an uncle, and cousins there. Also her Godsisster is there and we both have friends.

My wife lived in NYC for 2 years. So it isn't unfamiliar territory. My wife loves NYC.

And when you break it down, it's not all that different to Sydney. Traffic jams in Sydney will give NYC a run for it's money because of the way the city is built around the Harbour and Botany Bay, thus so many bottle necks. Plus, there are destitute people in Australia and a lot of crime too.

The other thing is that I believe I have made a couple of very good professional friendships already - more than acqiuaintences. I have literally been overwhelmed with the comradrie and support. I'm finding them extremely friendly and professional.

We have sorted the kids with their future schools, and they will be going private. And there is a massive Greek community to tap into as well.

NYC was not my choice. I prefer california. As I believe california to be very much like Australia. Warm climate, and so on.

US has everything of course. My second preference was denver. Now, that is a pleasant city - so so similar to Adelaide apart from the frigid cold and snow. So you can have whatever you want. So much variety. There are a many cities in the US you can have a good Adelaide like lifestyle. Seatle for instance.

But when I put in my bids, my wife twisted my arm and requested I ask for Newark so we can live in NYC. I got it too, but I have since then tried to change my mind and ask for LA and Denver. But in the end, wife is probably right as we do have family in NYC, plus friends so we should have a vibrant social life there. And it is an exciting place, and very pretty.

We doubt our kids will have any brushed with US Law. They are quite intelligent and well balanced little humans, and very compassionate individuals. Ithink they will have a great time and probably end up being Americanized and not want to come back home to Australia. Hopefully in a few years, they will be citizens too.

We are not unhappy about the move. we only see a big adventure, or so we hope.

My wife, will be left alone for many days per month so it's important she has her support network, friends and family close by. As for me, the job will be tiring when going ex Newark on the usual 4 day cycle with many overnights in other cities. Some days will be ofcouse 5 sectors of short haul or 2 sectors coast to coast. Literally, all you want to do is have some dinner and go to bed to be rested for the same the very next day and a lot of it will also be red eyes as well where your body clock is literally out of whack with the real world.



Paphitis, American workers and American companies, unionized or not and especially in the airline and transportation industry as a whole, seniority is everything when all things are equal, which means, you as the "new kid on the block" need to put in your time before you are able to choose to be based in more popular locations.

Given all the family and friends connections your wife has around the New York area, I can see why it makes sense for you all to be there for now. I'm sure eventually you may all want to spread your wings towards the West where landscape is much different than they are in the East and also to have some distant from those in the East. :wink:

Really, wish you all a great start in your new adopted country. Perhaps we will get the chance to have dinner together if you should have an overnight layover in San Francisco (KSFO) / Oakland (KOAK) / San Jose (KSJC) at a time when I am visiting the states. I will give you heads up in advanced when I make plans to come in the future via PM. It may be on short notice sometimes.

All the best.


Yes that is how it works but the good news is that my seniority number is back dated to the 4th of May 2020.

So already moved significantly higher as hundreds were hired after that date and the Covid churn of resignations has been somewhat accelerated. And there are plans to hold new courses every month for at least the next 2 years.

It’s not that hard to get your first preference bid. I got my fist preference immediately as Newark was my first choice.

They will always try to give you your first preference.

One of the harder domiciles to get into is Denver, Seattle, and other smaller ports. Newark, Chicago Ohare, Dulles, LA and San Fran are easier.

Newark is by far the biggest Domicile, followed by Chicago, Dulles and then LA.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:48 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, the truth is, you are going to have a great time living in the US. It is normal. However, gradually you will be stressed out from the day to day events, may they be overcrowding on the streets, malls, destitute people, massive traffic jams, worries about your kids at school and their comings and goings with their friends because most kids in the stated do drugs in one form or the other, or else they won’t be cool with their friends. They will likelihood brush with the law because of the friends they keep. Your kids will need to become streetwise living in the US quickly as everything will be new and exciting to them and also be very trusting of their bad friends. By the way, this also applies to adults when they first come to the US.

The US has a lot to offer, from things to do, places to visit and foods to eat and drink. I loved living there the 25 years I had spent there and was making 2-3 trips there every year whilst living in Switzerland until recently due to Covid restrictions, now, I much prefer to live in Europe. As long as you can pay for something, you can do it without too much hassle. You want to buy a sailboat and sail around the world, no problem as no license is needed. You want to buy a big bus size RV (recreational vehicle/mobile home) to travel the US, no problem as you do not need a commercial license. Just your car license will do. You want to play golf at public or private golf courses, no problem as you do not need to get a handicap license. Police are basically professionals as long as you allow them to step on your rights. Most things are cheaper than they are in Europe, but so can be the quality too.

One more thing. In America often you do not have friends. What you will have are acquaintances. Big difference, but most Americans do not know the difference, but just know that you can’t count on them in times of need as you would do on real friends.

Enjoy the USA.


Hi Kikapu,

we have family in the US. My domicile is Newark. We at this point will be living in New York. My wife has an uncle, and cousins there. Also her Godsisster is there and we both have friends.

My wife lived in NYC for 2 years. So it isn't unfamiliar territory. My wife loves NYC.

And when you break it down, it's not all that different to Sydney. Traffic jams in Sydney will give NYC a run for it's money because of the way the city is built around the Harbour and Botany Bay, thus so many bottle necks. Plus, there are destitute people in Australia and a lot of crime too.

The other thing is that I believe I have made a couple of very good professional friendships already - more than acqiuaintences. I have literally been overwhelmed with the comradrie and support. I'm finding them extremely friendly and professional.

We have sorted the kids with their future schools, and they will be going private. And there is a massive Greek community to tap into as well.

NYC was not my choice. I prefer california. As I believe california to be very much like Australia. Warm climate, and so on.

US has everything of course. My second preference was denver. Now, that is a pleasant city - so so similar to Adelaide apart from the frigid cold and snow. So you can have whatever you want. So much variety. There are a many cities in the US you can have a good Adelaide like lifestyle. Seatle for instance.

But when I put in my bids, my wife twisted my arm and requested I ask for Newark so we can live in NYC. I got it too, but I have since then tried to change my mind and ask for LA and Denver. But in the end, wife is probably right as we do have family in NYC, plus friends so we should have a vibrant social life there. And it is an exciting place, and very pretty.

We doubt our kids will have any brushed with US Law. They are quite intelligent and well balanced little humans, and very compassionate individuals. Ithink they will have a great time and probably end up being Americanized and not want to come back home to Australia. Hopefully in a few years, they will be citizens too.

We are not unhappy about the move. we only see a big adventure, or so we hope.

My wife, will be left alone for many days per month so it's important she has her support network, friends and family close by. As for me, the job will be tiring when going ex Newark on the usual 4 day cycle with many overnights in other cities. Some days will be ofcouse 5 sectors of short haul or 2 sectors coast to coast. Literally, all you want to do is have some dinner and go to bed to be rested for the same the very next day and a lot of it will also be red eyes as well where your body clock is literally out of whack with the real world.



Paphitis, American workers and American companies, unionized or not and especially in the airline and transportation industry as a whole, seniority is everything when all things are equal, which means, you as the "new kid on the block" need to put in your time before you are able to choose to be based in more popular locations.

Given all the family and friends connections your wife has around the New York area, I can see why it makes sense for you all to be there for now. I'm sure eventually you may all want to spread your wings towards the West where landscape is much different than they are in the East and also to have some distant from those in the East. :wink:

Really, wish you all a great start in your new adopted country. Perhaps we will get the chance to have dinner together if you should have an overnight layover in San Francisco (KSFO) / Oakland (KOAK) / San Jose (KSJC) at a time when I am visiting the states. I will give you heads up in advanced when I make plans to come in the future via PM. It may be on short notice sometimes.

All the best.



And yes Dinner would be great. San Francisco will be a regular stopover I’m sure.

I’m hoping the rostering gods are kind to me and I get more of the coast to coast rather than the 5 sectors in the NE corner. :shock:

Anyway, first things first, I got 14 sim sessions to get through and the first one is Sunday at 10pm.
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