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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:28 pm

As the title says the economics behind the Skripal poisoning …………. something not discussed at all in the media!

The Economics Behind the Skripal Poisoning - By Prof Michael Hudson and Michael Palmieri

Left Out, a podcast produced by Paul Sliker, Michael Palmieri, and Dante Dallavalle, creates in-depth conversations with the most interesting political thinkers, heterodox economists, and organizers on the Left.

The Hudson Report is a new weekly series produced by Left Out with the legendary economist Michael Hudson. Every episode we cover an economic or political issue that is either being ignored—or hotly debated—that week in the press.
In this episode we discuss the economic and political implications of the attempted murder of former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal. We also touch upon the long history of collaboration between Russian oligarchs and Western banks and how it fits into the larger neoliberal project pursued after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-economics-behind-the-skripal-poisoning/5635185


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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:02 pm

Robin Hood wrote:I apologise to other members for this post but ignoring it was not really an option given the content ....... it needed a response ........ :)



It didn't need a response RH.
Your as well as LR's arguments are already very well known, i believe everyone who follows this topic has already made up his mind on the particular issue.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:09 pm

Robin Hood wrote:As the title says the economics behind the Skripal poisoning …………. something not discussed at all in the media!


Of course it's not discussed, because so far all uncontrolled media have no idea who did it, what the motives were, and hence can't speculate if there was any economic plan.
Surely what the writter says is propable, but we have to wait and see.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby yialousa1971 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:21 pm

Yulia Skripal discharged from Salisbury hospital

https://www.rt.com/uk/423659-yulia-skri ... -hospital/

Poised by a nerve agent. :lol: Who believes this Shit. :oops:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:17 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:Yulia Skripal discharged from Salisbury hospital

https://www.rt.com/uk/423659-yulia-skri ... -hospital/

Poised by a nerve agent. :lol: Who believes this Shit. :oops:


Fewer and fewer people are believing this story, it is just too bizarre to be credible. Where is Yulia ? Even Royalty, pop stars and other celebrities are filmed when they leave hospital .... quite often just from the other side of the road and a wave as they get into the transport. But inevitably they do appear on the media in one way or another. From Yulia .... silence ........ apparently at her request ???? ..... and no more phone calls ..... maybe the battery is flat and they can't find a charger? :roll: :x

As you say ‘Who believes this shit?.’ ...... unfortunately a lot of the sheeple do!

I posted a very similar conspiracy theory on these exact lines, of my own yesterday. Today I received this! There appear to be thinkers that can analyse the information available and formulate a possible scenario and, there are those that believe what they are told without question and call the thinkers ’conspiracy theorists’.

I still think we may never see or hear from Yulia again! Can you imagine what would happen if she appeared on TV and told the World ...... “I told them it was shell fish food poisoning but they said I was poisoned by the Russians.” and told the press she and her Father had been held against their will ?. I would imagine those responsible would stop at NOTHING to keep her quiet.

Skripal Poison Case Becoming British Hostage Scenario - By Finian Cunningham

The British denial of a visitor visa to a Skripal family relative from Russia is fueling concern that the whole affair is far more sinister than what the British government and media have been claiming.

Far from the Skripal father and daughter being the alleged victims of a Russian assassination plot, it now seems increasingly apparent that they are being held against their will by Britain’s authorities. In short, hostages of the British state.

From the outset of the alleged poisoning incident in Salisbury on March 4, the official British narrative has been pocked suspiciously with inconsistencies. The lightning-fast rush to judgment by the British government – within days – to blame the Kremlin for “a brazen murder attempt” was perhaps the main giveaway that the narrative was following a script and foregone conclusion to incriminate Russia.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49178.htm


Breaking news ......

Just on Sky News ..... The Russians have said that holding Yulia Skripal in secret and incommunicado, is a State kidnapping. They are demanding to be allowed to see her and speak to her to ensure she is not being held against her will ! If the British Government has nothing to hide ..... why would they refuse such a request? :x :x

p.s. I think they should also take a doctor for an independent medical assessment of her health as well as a Barrister !
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:00 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:Who believes this Shit. :oops:


Nobody in his right mind assuming he had the time to investigate the matter.
However the vast majority of people don't have the time or the will to investigate things.
If you ask the average person in the UK or elsewhere in Europe what do they know about it, they will say, oh yes I remember hearing something on the news, about the Russians using some chemicals to kill them.
Propaganda was always targeting the masses.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby miltiades » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:36 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:Yulia Skripal discharged from Salisbury hospital

https://www.rt.com/uk/423659-yulia-skri ... -hospital/

Poised by a nerve agent. :lol: Who believes this Shit. :oops:

Paphitis does !!!
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:11 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:Yulia Skripal discharged from Salisbury hospital

https://www.rt.com/uk/423659-yulia-skri ... -hospital/

Poised by a nerve agent. :lol: Who believes this Shit. :oops:


Fewer and fewer people are believing this story, it is just too bizarre to be credible. Where is Yulia ? Even Royalty, pop stars and other celebrities are filmed when they leave hospital .... quite often just from the other side of the road and a wave as they get into the transport. But inevitably they do appear on the media in one way or another. From Yulia .... silence ........ apparently at her request ???? ..... and no more phone calls ..... maybe the battery is flat and they can't find a charger? :roll: :x

As you say ‘Who believes this shit?.’ ...... unfortunately a lot of the sheeple do!

I posted a very similar conspiracy theory on these exact lines, of my own yesterday. Today I received this! There appear to be thinkers that can analyse the information available and formulate a possible scenario and, there are those that believe what they are told without question and call the thinkers ’conspiracy theorists’.

I still think we may never see or hear from Yulia again! Can you imagine what would happen if she appeared on TV and told the World ...... “I told them it was shell fish food poisoning but they said I was poisoned by the Russians.” and told the press she and her Father had been held against their will ?. I would imagine those responsible would stop at NOTHING to keep her quiet.

Skripal Poison Case Becoming British Hostage Scenario - By Finian Cunningham

The British denial of a visitor visa to a Skripal family relative from Russia is fueling concern that the whole affair is far more sinister than what the British government and media have been claiming.

Far from the Skripal father and daughter being the alleged victims of a Russian assassination plot, it now seems increasingly apparent that they are being held against their will by Britain’s authorities. In short, hostages of the British state.

From the outset of the alleged poisoning incident in Salisbury on March 4, the official British narrative has been pocked suspiciously with inconsistencies. The lightning-fast rush to judgment by the British government – within days – to blame the Kremlin for “a brazen murder attempt” was perhaps the main giveaway that the narrative was following a script and foregone conclusion to incriminate Russia.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49178.htm


Breaking news ......

Just on Sky News ..... The Russians have said that holding Yulia Skripal in secret and incommunicado, is a State kidnapping. They are demanding to be allowed to see her and speak to her to ensure she is not being held against her will ! If the British Government has nothing to hide ..... why would they refuse such a request? :x :x

p.s. I think they should also take a doctor for an independent medical assessment of her health as well as a Barrister !


I was surprised when you said you didn't beleive Walter Litvinenko, (Father of Alexander Litvinenko) was telling the truth in the video Yalousa posted a few days ago.
Yet at 11:39 he said they are ALL hostages there. He further said that as soon as anyone would express a will to go, he'd be killed.
Yulia in the recorded telephone conversation stated clearly she wanted to go back to Russia after her release from the hospital, and even asked her cousin to escort her. The UK Govnt denied issuing the cousin a visa presumably for security reasons, yet it's now evident it would never allow either the father or the daughter to ever go.

Ii's clear to me Litvinenko knew very well what he was talking about. Hostages they were, hostages they will remain for eternity.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:55 pm

Pyrpolizer:

I was surprised when you said you didn't believe Walter Litvinenko, (Father of Alexander Litvinenko) was telling the truth in the video Yalousa posted a few days ago.

Yet at 11:39 he said they are ALL hostages there. He further said that as soon as anyone would express a will to go, he'd be killed.


I just watched it again and I withdraw my comment. He clearly changed his mind after his sons death because he started to look at everything in more detail retrospectively and that was why he saw a very different scenario. Although it is his opinion and not necessarily fact based, I tend to agree with his opinion in principal if not in every detail. The CIA link he makes does seem credible when you see what is happening with the Skripal's.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Londonrake » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:17 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:I apologise to other members for this post but ignoring it was not really an option given the content ....... it needed a response ........ :)



It didn't need a response RH.
Your as well as LR's arguments are already very well known, i believe everyone who follows this topic has already made up his mind on the particular issue.


Yes. And I hope that, after your recent post along the lines of "I've nothing against you man but what the **** do you want?" you might perhaps understand my POV a little more now. :D

Currently, because of events in Syria, there's been a blitz of "informationclearinghouse" and the ever reliable Paul Craig Roberts articles. All I will say is, if anybody's influenced by that stuff, to dig a little deeper and see what their everyday bread and butter writings are.

RH and I, under various guises, have known each other and been at logger heads for many years. I've had head-to-heads with GR in here, there's no denying, although, when he isn't taking the piss, or calling people cunts, I do appreciate his style of humour. Other than that, I can honestly say I haven't fallen out big time with anybody in over 7 years of Forum shite. RH is my treasure in that respect. He though has a long - long list of bodies. :wink:

cyprus46182-320.html#p86668

................is typical. I refer to it as "bludgeoning". I could reply to that in a 500 word detail but who the hell can be bothered? The secret of the man's "success".

Right now I'm going to give this subject a bit of a rest. It is obviously in the hysterical stratosphere.

RH. A common theme of your posts, for some time now, has been a promotion of the idea of an imminent WW3. Instigated by events in Syria. Whatever your meaning, it does come across as wishful thinking. Personally, I don't think that Russia and the USA (plus of course several zillion other NATO assets) are likely to go to war over a place like Syria. Russia wants to hang on to it's only foothold in the Med and a nice arms selling market. After all, other than gas/Petrol, what else have they got to sell? But a war with NATO? I don't think so. We both know that of course there have already been losses of Russian and US forces in the place.

Also, I have never kept "files" on other members. I have no reason to. However, for some time now you have been hinting at the possibility of trying libel action against me (Confusing. Is that "running to"?). Despite the fact that nothing that's transpired between us could possibly hold a candle up to the likes of the vitriolic exchanges between yourself and Paphitis. I think I tend to just hit you where it hurts - your pride. Nevertheless, the advice I have received is to keep a clear record of all the acrimonious exchanges you have been involved in over the years and that's exactly what I've been doing for the past 7 months.

Page one is referenced "Malicious communications" which, certainly in the UK, is a criminal offence. :wink:
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