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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:45 pm

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Paphitis wrote:Why? What is it that makes the MAX a poorly designed aircraft?


Respond to the points made and not just post some random crap about what the PM flies in... :roll:

Would the MAX be approved as a new aircraft today or not...? Have Boeing played the system to get a years old design through approval thus saving themselves $$$$$$$$$s...? Was the existence of MCAS kept quiet to get it through approval...? etc.?

Sadly (and not for the first time), you find yourself defending the indefensible...


Yes if they bought out the aircraft today for argument sake, it would be certified.

I have no doubt that the MAX would be certifies by any global authority, including EASA, I don't see anything that could possibly hinder that.

I also believe the MAX will regain it's certification sometime this year (by end of March according to Boeing sources).

Boeing was well aware of all the Flight Characteristics from wind tunnel tests and divulged all that information and introduced MCAS.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:51 pm

Paphitis wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Why? What is it that makes the MAX a poorly designed aircraft?


Respond to the points made and not just post some random crap about what the PM flies in... :roll:

Would the MAX be approved as a new aircraft today or not...? Have Boeing played the system to get a years old design through approval thus saving themselves $$$$$$$$$s...? Was the existence of MCAS kept quiet to get it through approval...? etc.?

Sadly (and not for the first time), you find yourself defending the indefensible...


Yes if they bought out the aircraft today for argument sake, it would be certified.

I have no doubt that the MAX would be certifies by any global authority, including EASA, I don't see anything that could possibly hinder that.

I also believe the MAX will regain it's certification sometime this year (by end of March according to Boeing sources).

Boeing was well aware of all the Flight Characteristics from wind tunnel tests and divulged all that information and introduced MCAS.


Thank you.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:02 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Why? What is it that makes the MAX a poorly designed aircraft?


Respond to the points made and not just post some random crap about what the PM flies in... :roll:

Would the MAX be approved as a new aircraft today or not...? Have Boeing played the system to get a years old design through approval thus saving themselves $$$$$$$$$s...? Was the existence of MCAS kept quiet to get it through approval...? etc.?

Sadly (and not for the first time), you find yourself defending the indefensible...


Yes if they bought out the aircraft today for argument sake, it would be certified.

I have no doubt that the MAX would be certifies by any global authority, including EASA, I don't see anything that could possibly hinder that.

I also believe the MAX will regain it's certification sometime this year (by end of March according to Boeing sources).

Boeing was well aware of all the Flight Characteristics from wind tunnel tests and divulged all that information and introduced MCAS.


Thank you.


If the aircraft was bought out as a new type, it would be certified, even under the same family as earlier generation B737.

Every global authority in the world certified the aircraft.

There is conjecture that due to the differing flight characteristics should classify it as its own type, but that is a very grey area to say the least. And it could still be classified under the same B737 endorsement class even after its re-certification in the future. That remains to be seen.

Boeing can introduce a Differences exam and some sim training to cover off these differences like there are Differences exams for the A319/A320/and A321 because they too have different flight characteristics. No version of the same aircraft will ever be the same.

In fact there are hundreds of aircraft with Differences Exams and different procedures within a certain series. I do a Difference exam every year and get tested every 6 months in the sim. It's COMMON!

But they may not allow it for the MAX. It's GREY!

I don't believe they played the system. It was impossible for Boeing to anticipate the current situation and if they had an inkling they would have been more careful.
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