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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Mon May 25, 2020 2:43 pm

A bizarre incident at Karachi airport with PIA Airbus 320 Flt.8303. The plane comes in for a normal landing and as it flares to touch the main landing gear onto the tarmac, but nothing happens until the undersides of both the engines starts scraping the ground about halfway down the runway. At this point the pilots realize that the landing gear has not been extended (oh shit) as they apply full power to get the plane airborne for go-around.

The plane lifts for a short distance and then makes another scrapes on the runway with the undersides of both engines for the 2nd time. Once again the plane gets airborne most probably because of the “ground effect” to give it a lift. The plane is once again airborne and once again it comes down and the engines once again scrapes the runway for the 3rd time, which at this point the plane finally has enough speed and lift to airborne and start to climb. From the picture of the plane airborne, I could not see any scrapes where the nose gear is, which indicates the nose of the plane was always in a nose up attitude.

So, the plane then goes for a go- around to line up for 2nd attempt to land with the landing gear down this time, but it is too late as the damaged engines finally flames out and the aircraft is seen nose up attitude in a glide configuration flying into the buildings. This was not going to end like the “Miracle on the Hudson”, but there was miracle all the same as 2 passengers from of about 100 on board did survive the crash and no fatalities on the ground.

Had the pilot in command just accepted that they were landing without the landing gear and just did a belly landing, most probably no one would have died, but only scraped undercarriage and scrapped egos, and most probably unemployed, but still alive.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon May 25, 2020 10:46 pm

...other failures; in design,



...interesting, and no Boeings, as i recall.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:58 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-ca ... tent=Final

...an all electric airplane; nine seats for passengers.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:12 am

I’ll run the risk of posting this without an associated comment. It seems to speak for itself:

Boeing set for critical 737 Max flight tests https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53212274

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:34 am

Londonrake wrote:I’ll run the risk of posting this without an associated comment. It seems to speak for itself:

Boeing set for critical 737 Max flight tests https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53212274

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...and even if all goes well, these planes won’t be flying anytime soon.

Then will come the final test for the B-737 Max, which is, will the people fly on it?
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:00 am

Any quick rebound from the shutting down the airlines across the world has not happened yet, and as we slowly head towards the other end of the summer‘s spectrum, it will become more evident that this year is going to be the worst year for the airlines in revenue and passenger seat numbers per mile flown. Perhaps their on-time performance has improved greatly if one was looking for any silver lining in the skies.

All airlines will have a massive lay offs once the summer season is over and as the government stimulus packages dry up by the end of September in most cases. The lay offs will start in proportional percentages from every position from ground personnel, management, cabin crew to flight crew. Then comes the General airport related jobs in the terminals and in the field. The list goes on and on. Those who will get to keep their jobs will have reduced hours and reduced pay.

This is ALL bad news for the B-737 MAX even having a slimmest chance of returning back into the skies anytime soon, if ever. Watching the skies over Zurich which is a major way-point for planes in Europe, there would be anywhere between 6-8 planes in the sky at any one time before the shutdown. Now seeing one plane every so often is a rare sight as the blue skies are not smeared with white trails from the planes. This has become the new normal at the moment.

I wish the best for all those in and around the Aviation industry as it will have the most turbulent conditions in recent times, if not in it’s history as the Covid-19 persists, which the last thing anyone wants is to fly anywhere that would not be anything much different than what you have at home, which are social distancing, masks and the dangers of catching the virus, which in some countries, the dangers are much much higher than at home.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:37 pm

Unfortunately, that prognosis isn’t of course confined to the aviation sector. :(

Coronavirus: UK payrolls shrink by 649,000 jobs in lockdown https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53427304

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:35 pm

Londonrake wrote:Unfortunately, that prognosis isn’t of course confined to the aviation sector. :(

Coronavirus: UK payrolls shrink by 649,000 jobs in lockdown https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53427304

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Quite!
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:58 am

Another sign of the times. End of a 50 year era.

British Airways retires entire 747 fleet after travel downturn https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53426886

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:42 am

Londonrake wrote:Another sign of the times. End of a 50 year era.

British Airways retires entire 747 fleet after travel downturn https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53426886

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That is very sad. Many wonderful flights on the B-747 between San Francisco and London with British Airways before moving to Switzerland in 2004. Only very few since. :(
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