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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:00 pm

why would a teenager own 12 rifles and 10,000 round of ammunition. and threaten on line to shot every agent he comes accross. you cannot make it up. his parents should be locked up with him for allowing such ammuninition into their house. people have to be accountable to what happens in their homes.

at least this one has been averted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49349793
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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:19 am

Lordo wrote:why would a teenager own 12 rifles and 10,000 round of ammunition. and threaten on line to shot every agent he comes accross. you cannot make it up. his parents should be locked up with him for allowing such ammuninition into their house. people have to be accountable to what happens in their homes.

at least this one has been averted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49349793


See what I mean. Yopu peddle a lot of lies and dishonesty.

There are a lot of rules and regulations that come with gun ownership in the US.

One of them is that you can't be under age.

Also, if you possess firearms, they must be registered with the cop station and stored appropriately in a safe that is bolted to the ground and the ammunition must be stored separately.

It is not legal for a 12 year old to have a firearm.

Which reinforces what we are trying to tell you. It's not the legal arms that are responsible for most shootings. It's the illegally acquired, and possessed firearms or firearms which are not registered. Gun control will make little difference, and may even increase crime as did happen in Australia.

What makes a difference is better law enforcement and the Mexican border.

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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:21 am

Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:
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Lordo wrote:you are confusing the word mass shooting with mass killing. the americans describe mass shooting as incidents when 4 or more people or shot or killed. if it was mass killing you can ignore the injured.

perhaps once you understand the difference between shooting and killing we can progress little further. when you understand the difference please let us know.


We need to have a standard here.

You can choose to define mass shooting as 4 victims or 3 victims, but you need to compare like for like.

You stating that there were 250 mass shootings in the USA isn't very fair because then you need to compare that to each country under the same criteria.

It's better to revert to a definition of 3 or 4 dead victims and compare these statistics globally.

And, we can go round and round in circles all you like, but Americans are not going to surrender their guns. That WILL NEVER happen.

Gun control was a massive failure in Australia.

no the criteria is set. it is not 3 or 4 people, it is 4 or more. in otherwods less than 4 does not count as a mass shhoting. if 4 or more people are shot, then it is termed mass shooting. by all means see how many more mass shootings there are in countries like the congo and kenya and afghanistan. the term is simple and even an idiot like shoud understand it.


Well then, you need to compare like for like with the exact same criteria. And again, if those statistics exist, it would indicate that the USA isn't that different to other parts of the world.

The reason why we should stick to the criteria of 3 or 4 dead, is because studies have already been collated under that criteria which places the USA in 62nd place. It is a level playing field where you can actually compare.

the 250 mass shootings is calculated with that criteria. facts are facts. is there another country that has had 250 mass shootings since january 1st this year. you really are quite dense.


You have not then calculated all the similar events around the world under the exact same criteria.

You don't have any benchmark to compare it with so the figure is MEANINGLESS!
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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:08 am

is it meaningless. why would i want to compare america with the rest of the world. i compare them with the western world and judge them by their criteria.

anyway sure as night follows day, another mass shooting in america this time 6 policemen shot. thankfully none are critical. i wonder if they were all wearing bullet proof vests. perhaps thats the way to go forward. government should have to provide all with these vests as they are responsible for allowing any tom dik and arry to own weapons of all sorts.

on another note. are you aware that you can cover your body under your shirt with several newspapers and it is as good as a bullet proof vest. perhaps thats the way forward
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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:35 pm

Lordo wrote:is it meaningless. why would i want to compare america with the rest of the world. i compare them with the western world and judge them by their criteria.

anyway sure as night follows day, another mass shooting in america this time 6 policemen shot. thankfully none are critical. i wonder if they were all wearing bullet proof vests. perhaps thats the way to go forward. government should have to provide all with these vests as they are responsible for allowing any tom dik and arry to own weapons of all sorts.

on another note. are you aware that you can cover your body under your shirt with several newspapers and it is as good as a bullet proof vest. perhaps thats the way forward


Because a country of 350 million people is always going to have big stats. Big country = Big everything, and that includes crime.

If for instance, you said there were 1000 mass shootings in India, it would sound like a lot but you need a perspective otherwise these numbers are irrelevant and meaningless. India has 1.3 billion people and is an even bigger country so you would expect big stats.

Let's say there was 1 mass shooting (under you bogus criteria of more than 1 injury) in Cyprus every 16 months and compare that to 250 in the USA per year. Then it's mass shootings would exceed that of the USA. Statistics are important for relevancy and perspective! Espeially if you rig the stats which the American stats clearly are under your criteria.
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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:29 pm

you really are dense boy. usa has a population of about 320 milion and the eu has a population of 512 million. according to you the eu should have more mass shootings.

you idiot.
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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:20 pm

Lordo wrote:you really are dense boy. usa has a population of about 320 milion and the eu has a population of 512 million. according to you the eu should have more mass shootings.

you idiot.


It's actually 330 million but the same point still applies. It's a friggin massive country.

Also, it's you who is dense and I will tell you why. You are a brainwashed dimwit> FACT! You have the intellect of an insect.

You posted a picture of TEXAN mounted police having arrested a black dude. He was handcuffed and they tied a rope around the handcuffs to walk him to an area where he would be handed over to other police to take him to the watch house. It had nothing at all to do with race, Those TEXAN Police did their job and they did it professionally. They didn't hit him, abuse him, or taunt him. They just arrested him like they would arrest anyone who breaks the law or is a public nuisance.

We also have mounted police in Adelaide. They are a bit of a tourist attraction. They are usually found in the city or used in crowd control. I for one think they are fantastic. But they are also normal functioning police officers on horse back. They carry all the stuff police carry, like cuffs, and also a gun.

You can be arrested by them. In which case they will cuff you, and probably walk you over to an awaiting police car to be taken to the Station for processing. They will do this to whites and blacks but trust brainwashed idiots like you to make something out of NOTHING.

And yet you overlook this. 50 murders per day in post Apartheid South Africa.

A white girl was found dead with a dog collar around her neck. The perpetrators were 3 Black Men. This never makes it into the media because it doesn't fit into the narrative arseholes like you pushed either deliberately or our of ignorance and stupidity.

For your educumation...

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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:23 pm

and here is a situation even the most stuidest escuse for a huma should understand. a man today attacked somebody outside the home office and stabbaed an individual. imagine if this individual was actually was allowed to buy a gun or a semi-automatic rifle.

unfortunately stupid people are just that stupid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-49360747
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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:36 pm

Lordo wrote:and here is a situation even the most stuidest escuse for a huma should understand. a man today attacked somebody outside the home office and stabbaed an individual. imagine if this individual was actually was allowed to buy a gun or a semi-automatic rifle.

unfortunately stupid people are just that stupid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-49360747


Hey stupid idiot.

People who conduct crime don't just go and buy a gun. Most guns involved in crime are guns that are illegally bought and which are unregistered.

As per usual, you are too stupid!
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Re: greatest democracy on earth

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:and here is a situation even the most stuidest escuse for a huma should understand. a man today attacked somebody outside the home office and stabbaed an individual. imagine if this individual was actually was allowed to buy a gun or a semi-automatic rifle.

unfortunately stupid people are just that stupid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-49360747


Hey stupid idiot.

People who conduct crime don't just go and buy a gun. Most guns involved in crime are guns that are illegally bought and which are unregistered.

As per usual, you are too stupid!

who is being supid you idiot.

Under federal law, private-party sellers are not required to perform background checks on buyers, record the sale, or ask for identification, whether at a gun show or other venue.

so how do criminal get guns again? what about those mass shooters who have no criminal records so there is nothing from stopping them buying 12 rifles and 10,000 rounds of ammunition.

you areally are just a waste of time.
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