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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:45 pm

Lordo wrote:stop talking bullshit there are 5 different leave version and there is no chance in hell all voted for one. in anycase about 1.5 million who voted leave have since died and about 1.5 million people who most likey will vote remain have come on the electoral register. if we can have 3 elections in 4 years surely we can two referendums in 4 years to confirm what people really want now that it is all explained.

no-deal exit is as good as dead and will be the end of the tory party too.


there is only 1 leave option. And that is to leave.

There are no options and 5 options can't be put to the public because you would split the Brexit vote and then claim there is so mandate because the Brexiteers are not clear on what they want.

The referendum can only be a binary question such as STAY or LEAVE.

Or in Australia's case some years ago, should Australia become a Republic? YES or NO?

Not what kind of Republic on whether they like the US model or the French model or the Cypriot model. :roll:
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:49 pm

Oh listen to the moral puritans.



What total humbug Jess Philips. :roll:

And yes you are a traitor because you are betraying the democratic will of your constituents. What else can you be?
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:59 pm

moggs said this isn't a Turkey parliament but a Chicken Parliament! :lol:

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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Lordo » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:23 pm

chickens are coming home to roos dear boy one by one and two by two. they lost their majority but they refuse to abide by parliament decision. they can have an election any time so long as they extend till january 31. it really is that simple. manchild cannot be trusted to even hold an election before 31st of october.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:32 pm

Lordo wrote:chickens are coming home to roos dear boy one by one and two by two. they lost their majority but they refuse to abide by parliament decision. they can have an election any time so long as they extend till january 31. it really is that simple. manchild cannot be trusted to even hold an election before 31st of october.


Yes, Corbynated chicken is back in the house roosting.

What parliament is doing is refusing to abide by the decisions of the people.

Tick tock tick tock.

DSo what are you gonna do about it if Boris refuses to ask for an extension?

Are you going to ask for a no confidence vote? Are you going to accept a GE? Oh that's right, you are all chicken! :D
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The right to self determination as acknowledged by the UN human rights chart. :!:


I agree with the right to self determination.

But that applies to all Cypriots having a say in a fair and democratic process. I do not consider a vote held by the Church to be a fair and democratic process or even acknowledging the votes of Turkish Cypriots either.

That was not executed right or enacted by parliament. It was a dangerous stunt.

And if you try and implement that as the will of the people - you got double union and I'm not in favor of that.

This isn't the same thing as Britain's sovereign referendum on whether they should remain or leave the EU. Plus I doubt anyone is going to invade Britain because of it.


Even if all the TCs would have voted it would still be a 79% yes.
However we couldn't get the "deal" we wanted after it became obvious it would lead to double enosis as you said.
Hence it was never implemented and expired in 1960.

Similarly the British were unable to get the deal they wanted, the Parliament rejected May's deal 3 times and Bojo is now saying he would exit with no deal. By the minute Bojo said that, the referendum got an expiry date, because that's not what the voters were asked for initially.
At the very minimum Bojo should do another referendum asking the people if they want to exit with no deal.
Why isn't he doing it?
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:42 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The right to self determination as acknowledged by the UN human rights chart. :!:


I agree with the right to self determination.

But that applies to all Cypriots having a say in a fair and democratic process. I do not consider a vote held by the Church to be a fair and democratic process or even acknowledging the votes of Turkish Cypriots either.

That was not executed right or enacted by parliament. It was a dangerous stunt.

And if you try and implement that as the will of the people - you got double union and I'm not in favor of that.

This isn't the same thing as Britain's sovereign referendum on whether they should remain or leave the EU. Plus I doubt anyone is going to invade Britain because of it.


Even if all the TCs would have voted it would still be a 79% yes.
However we couldn't get the "deal" we wanted after it became obvious it would lead to double enosis as you said.
Hence it was never implemented and expired in 1960.

Similarly the British were unable to get the deal they wanted, the Parliament rejected May's deal 3 times and Bojo is now saying he would exit with no deal. By the minute Bojo said that, the referendum got an expiry date, because that's not what the voters were asked for initially.
At the very minimum Bojo should do another referendum asking the people if they want to exit with no deal.
Why isn't he doing it?


Turkey invaded!

Go forth then and implement this so called referendum. :roll:

The British don't need a deal for BREXIT. WTO deal will suffice.

And no I am sorry but there will be no referendum asking the people if they want a NO DEAL BREXIT. You can't just word the referendum to stack the odds in your favour. The referendum has taken place.

And by saying they only want a deal places Britain in a terrible position. That is no way to negotiate.

A simple single issue GE will be enough to validate.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Kikapu » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:57 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The right to self determination as acknowledged by the UN human rights chart. :!:


I agree with the right to self determination.

But that applies to all Cypriots having a say in a fair and democratic process. I do not consider a vote held by the Church to be a fair and democratic process or even acknowledging the votes of Turkish Cypriots either.

That was not executed right or enacted by parliament. It was a dangerous stunt.

And if you try and implement that as the will of the people - you got double union and I'm not in favor of that.

This isn't the same thing as Britain's sovereign referendum on whether they should remain or leave the EU. Plus I doubt anyone is going to invade Britain because of it.


Even if all the TCs would have voted it would still be a 79% yes.
However we couldn't get the "deal" we wanted after it became obvious it would lead to double enosis as you said.
Hence it was never implemented and expired in 1960.

Similarly the British were unable to get the deal they wanted, the Parliament rejected May's deal 3 times and Bojo is now saying he would exit with no deal. By the minute Bojo said that, the referendum got an expiry date, because that's not what the voters were asked for initially.
At the very minimum Bojo should do another referendum asking the people if they want to exit with no deal.
Why isn't he doing it?


Turkey invaded!

Go forth then and implement this so called referendum. :roll:

The British don't need a deal for BREXIT. WTO deal will suffice.

And no I am sorry but there will be no referendum asking the people if they want a NO DEAL BREXIT. You can't just word the referendum to stack the odds in your favour. The referendum has taken place.

And by saying they only want a deal places Britain in a terrible position. That is no way to negotiate.

A simple single issue GE will be enough to validate.


You are assuming all tories want Brexit if the tories win the majority in the next GE.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:01 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The right to self determination as acknowledged by the UN human rights chart. :!:


I agree with the right to self determination.

But that applies to all Cypriots having a say in a fair and democratic process. I do not consider a vote held by the Church to be a fair and democratic process or even acknowledging the votes of Turkish Cypriots either.

That was not executed right or enacted by parliament. It was a dangerous stunt.

And if you try and implement that as the will of the people - you got double union and I'm not in favor of that.

This isn't the same thing as Britain's sovereign referendum on whether they should remain or leave the EU. Plus I doubt anyone is going to invade Britain because of it.


Even if all the TCs would have voted it would still be a 79% yes.
However we couldn't get the "deal" we wanted after it became obvious it would lead to double enosis as you said.
Hence it was never implemented and expired in 1960.

Similarly the British were unable to get the deal they wanted, the Parliament rejected May's deal 3 times and Bojo is now saying he would exit with no deal. By the minute Bojo said that, the referendum got an expiry date, because that's not what the voters were asked for initially.
At the very minimum Bojo should do another referendum asking the people if they want to exit with no deal.
Why isn't he doing it?


Turkey invaded!

Go forth then and implement this so called referendum. :roll:

The British don't need a deal for BREXIT. WTO deal will suffice.

And no I am sorry but there will be no referendum asking the people if they want a NO DEAL BREXIT. You can't just word the referendum to stack the odds in your favour. The referendum has taken place.

And by saying they only want a deal places Britain in a terrible position. That is no way to negotiate.

A simple single issue GE will be enough to validate.


You are assuming all tories want Brexit if the tories win the majority in the next GE.


No they don't but all Tories are still going to vote for the Tories because they all hate Corbynated Chicken with a passion and are not commies, whereas the Labor Brexiteers are not going to vote Labor and the sincerest of Liberal Democrats are not going to be voting Liberal Democrat.

The biggest Brexiteer demographic is Labor voting so Corbynated Chicken is in for a roasting.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:02 pm

Paphitis wrote:
The referendum can only be a binary question such as STAY or LEAVE.

Or in Australia's case some years ago, should Australia become a Republic? YES or NO?

Not what kind of Republic on whether they like the US model or the French model or the Cypriot model. :roll:


Good example but let's assume they voted YES
Does this give the Govnt the free choice of implementing Tombouctou's model?
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