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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:14 am

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:you left out brexiters
who feel they were lied to
never voted for no-deal and had soft brexit in mind.
1.5 million oldbrexiteers who have since died
1.5 million youngsters who have no joined the electoral register

the latest poll for brexit enjoy

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/uk-poll-results/



Why not put it to the vote then...? Have a GE? :lol:

You'd be fucked is why... :wink:


As Lieutenant Columbo would say, "when you know something, keep it to yourself. Timing is everything"! :wink:

GE timing is everything. Be patient, as it will be coming soon. :D

Has Boris called for "no confidence vote" on himself yet? :D


We are waiting for a strange man with a mustache coming in waving his pistol around but Lieutenant is too low a rank. General maybe? :wink:

This is what remainers have done. They spit in the face of democracy and turn Westminster into a South American tinpot. As Nigel said, you would think you are in Bolivia.

No amount of timing is going to save them now Kikapu. The people have long memories and they are not going to let parliament get away with this. It's the Parliament Vs The People. Those Turkeys on the cross benches are not going to prevent Christmas. It's inevitable. There will be no pardons either. :wink:

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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Kikapu » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:06 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:you left out brexiters
who feel they were lied to
never voted for no-deal and had soft brexit in mind.
1.5 million oldbrexiteers who have since died
1.5 million youngsters who have no joined the electoral register

the latest poll for brexit enjoy

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/uk-poll-results/



Why not put it to the vote then...? Have a GE? :lol:

You'd be fucked is why... :wink:


As Lieutenant Columbo would say, "when you know something, keep it to yourself. Timing is everything"! :wink:

GE timing is everything. Be patient, as it will be coming soon. :D

Has Boris called for "no confidence vote" on himself yet? :D


We are waiting for a strange man with a mustache coming in waving his pistol around but Lieutenant is too low a rank. General maybe? :wink:

This is what remainers have done. They spit in the face of democracy and turn Westminster into a South American tinpot. As Nigel said, you would think you are in Bolivia.

No amount of timing is going to save them now Kikapu. The people have long memories and they are not going to let parliament get away with this. It's the Parliament Vs The People. Those Turkeys on the cross benches are not going to prevent Christmas. It's inevitable. There will be no pardons either]


This is what I don’t understand. What is stopping Boris from telling the EU, that the UK is not going to wait until October 31st deadline to leave the EU, but instead, we are leaving today without a deal unless the EU agrees for a deal with the UK by midnight tonight. Why is Boris dancing around with this if he is really serious about leaving the EU without a deal, or is he really willing to leave without a deal? Sounds to me like he is posturing to get a GE in the hopes that he can get a majority and is just using Brexit no deal issue as a red herring. This may well be why the opposition is not willing to accommodate Boris until after the 31st October to see which turn Brexit would take.

On a personal level, if I were in the commons the other day, I would have gone over and kicked both Boris’s and Cox’s asses for their theatrical acting. :D
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:09 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:you left out brexiters
who feel they were lied to
never voted for no-deal and had soft brexit in mind.
1.5 million oldbrexiteers who have since died
1.5 million youngsters who have no joined the electoral register

the latest poll for brexit enjoy

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/uk-poll-results/



Why not put it to the vote then...? Have a GE? :lol:

You'd be fucked is why... :wink:


As Lieutenant Columbo would say, "when you know something, keep it to yourself. Timing is everything"! :wink:

GE timing is everything. Be patient, as it will be coming soon. :D

Has Boris called for "no confidence vote" on himself yet? :D


We are waiting for a strange man with a mustache coming in waving his pistol around but Lieutenant is too low a rank. General maybe? :wink:

This is what remainers have done. They spit in the face of democracy and turn Westminster into a South American tinpot. As Nigel said, you would think you are in Bolivia.

No amount of timing is going to save them now Kikapu. The people have long memories and they are not going to let parliament get away with this. It's the Parliament Vs The People. Those Turkeys on the cross benches are not going to prevent Christmas. It's inevitable. There will be no pardons either]


This is what I don’t understand. What is stopping Boris from telling the EU, that the UK is not going to wait until October 31st deadline to leave the EU, but instead, we are leaving today without a deal unless the EU agrees for a deal with the UK by midnight tonight. Why is Boris dancing around with this if he is really serious about leaving the EU without a deal, or is he really willing to leave without a deal? Sounds to me like he is posturing to get a GE in the hopes that he can get a majority and is just using Brexit no deal issue as a red herring. This may well be why the opposition is not willing to accommodate Boris until after the 31st October to see which turn Brexit would take.

On a personal level, if I were in the commons the other day, I would have gone over and kicked both Boris’s and Cox’s asses for their theatrical acting. :D


Oh Kikapu, he is negotiating for a deal and is using all that time to get one.

If he doesn't get one then that's when he throws his hands in the air saying we have tried for 3.5 years and can't get a deal, so lets BREXIT now and talk later.

He never said he is serious about a no deal BREXIT. that is what the opposition are accusing.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Kikapu » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:18 am

Well, maybe, except no one from the EU side can collaborate that Boris is actually negotiating with them in any serious manner. The EU is not going to drop the Irish backstop, so what is there left for Boris to negotiate?
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:01 am

Kikapu wrote:Well, maybe, except no one from the EU side can collaborate that Boris is actually negotiating with them in any serious manner. The EU is not going to drop the Irish backstop, so what is there left for Boris to negotiate?


The EU confirmed only last week that Boris was negotiating when the British Government sent the EU a number of documents about BREXIT.

I don't think they elaborated much (because the can't do that) but I think some of the documents were in regard to the Ireland.

so even that is a lie.

However, Junker and the EU did say it will be a mammoth task to get a deal by the 31st of October and Boris insinuated the same saying that things are not that easy. In other words, NO DEAL BREXIT is a distinct big possibility.

Junker has also confirmed the same thing and so have the Germans, who said that there is still life after BREXIT and negotiations will continue afterwards in the EU interests which are to reach an agreement for a Free Trade Deal.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Lordo » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:19 am

Kikapu wrote:Well, maybe, except no one from the EU side can collaborate that Boris is actually negotiating with them in any serious manner. The EU is not going to drop the Irish backstop, so what is there left for Boris to negotiate?

manchild is going back to what eu offered originally which was a backstop for northern ireland only which may changed and included the whole of the uk in.
this is why they are keeping it a secret. as soon as dup finds out that is the new plan tories will lose dup's support too.

so all that is left now is the 19th of october. by then it will be obvious that all their promisses were bullshit about a great deal or that it would be easy or that there will be no tariffs.

of course the government can prorogue parliament again if the rioting is so bad to allow crashing it. however they must return to parliament in 7 days to confirm. so the choice left is to decleare emergency in the last 7 days of october and hope that the supreme court turns a blind eye on the matter. good luck with that one manchild.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/09/could-government-deliver-brexit-declaring-national-emergency

lets face it, any government today is the prisoner of the mps so any group can manipulate the situation to protect their own interest. there is nothing more to do to do other than wait till 81th of october to see the asshole come back empty handed and blame everybody else except himself and his cronies for what we have suffered in since the referendum. and of course the public who is now in majority remain mode will him plenty in dividens for his effort.
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