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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:09 pm

erolz66 wrote:


Strange how neither you nor Guido mention at all that in this same poll it was also found "But more people think a no deal is bad for the UK than good." Try looking at the actual poll results rather than Guido's partial and pejorative reporting of them and things look a bit different I would suggest.

https://www.comresglobal.com/polls/itn- ... ober-2019/

Q1. Thinking about the UK leaving the EU, which of the following would be your preferred outcome?

The UK remaining in the EU - 42%
The UK leaving the EU with a withdrawal deal - 30%
The UK leaving the EU on a No Deal basis - 20%
Don't know - 8%



And you accuse me of being selective! :shock:

Fuck me, talk about double-standards! :lol:

ComRes wrote:26,000 adults surveyed by ComRes across the UK

Results shows more than half (54%) of British public support the UK abiding by the referendum result and leaving the EU, regardless of the way they voted in the 2016 Referendum.

More people’s preferred outcome is now for the UK to leave the European Union (50% v 42% remain).

However, when the “don’t knows” (of those expressing an opinion) are excluded, over half say their preferred outcome is for the UK to leave the EU (54%) compared to less than half who say their preferred outcome is for the UK to remain in the EU (46%)

But more people think a no deal is bad for the UK than good.

Big Brexit divides across age groups and also Scotland, London and Northern Ireland out of kilter with the rest of the UK
Poll commissioned for Live Brexit Referendum: Do We Want No Deal? (Channel 5, Wednesday 16 October at 9pm)
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:13 pm

Lordo wrote:any news on the deal yet. never mind last night 11 oclock or today 11 oclock b'stard will not have a deal even by the end of the week.


Negotiations ongoing. Agreement close but not there yet. If reached it will be 99% the deal rejected by May three years ago as 'something no British PM could ever support' with a load of added fudge. It will involve a de facto customers boarder in the Irish Sea. It will have a 'de jure' fudge aboput NI being outside the EU customs union but de facto (literally translates as 'in reality) it will remain in. It will require the UK to collect customs duties on behalf of the EU, which is currently illegal under UK law after the 'spartan' backed legislation making such illegal. The NI assembly will get some right to accept or reject this at some point in time but not with the ability for the DUP to veto it as a minority.
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:16 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:And you accuse me of being selective! :shock:

Fuck me, talk about double-standards! :lol:


Did I, in reaction to your post, provide the direct link to the actual poll itself as well as quote from it partially ? Did you when you pro actively quoted and linked to guido's partial quoting of it's findings ? Did guido provide a link to the actuall poll itself ?
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:46 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
erolz66 wrote:


Strange how neither you nor Guido mention at all that in this same poll it was also found "But more people think a no deal is bad for the UK than good." Try looking at the actual poll results rather than Guido's partial and pejorative reporting of them and things look a bit different I would suggest.

https://www.comresglobal.com/polls/itn- ... ober-2019/

Q1. Thinking about the UK leaving the EU, which of the following would be your preferred outcome?

The UK remaining in the EU - 42%
The UK leaving the EU with a withdrawal deal - 30%
The UK leaving the EU on a No Deal basis - 20%
Don't know - 8%



And you accuse me of being selective! :shock:

Fuck me, talk about double-standards! :lol:

ComRes wrote:26,000 adults surveyed by ComRes across the UK

Results shows more than half (54%) of British public support the UK abiding by the referendum result and leaving the EU, regardless of the way they voted in the 2016 Referendum.

More people’s preferred outcome is now for the UK to leave the European Union (50% v 42% remain).

However, when the “don’t knows” (of those expressing an opinion) are excluded, over half say their preferred outcome is for the UK to leave the EU (54%) compared to less than half who say their preferred outcome is for the UK to remain in the EU (46%)

But more people think a no deal is bad for the UK than good.

Big Brexit divides across age groups and also Scotland, London and Northern Ireland out of kilter with the rest of the UK
Poll commissioned for Live Brexit Referendum: Do We Want No Deal? (Channel 5, Wednesday 16 October at 9pm)


If they held a referendum on BREXIT today, they would be in for as real big shock.

More like 60% will vote leave.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:48 pm

Oh yes and we can smell the fear from the EU.

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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:04 pm

this one is very revealing. people have so much confidence in b'stard you can clealry see he has the people eating out of the palm of his hands. hang on a minute is it white powder i see on his palms.
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:12 pm

Paphitis wrote:Oh yes and we can smell the fear from the EU.


I think you might find that the UK has always been a major competitor to Germany, before it joined the EEC, after it joined the EEC, whilst the EEC evolved in to the EU with the UK inside it and today and in to the future what ever happens with Brexit. Countries like Germany might fear increased competition from the UK once it is outside the EU if the UK lowers standards on workers rights and protections, minimum wages, health and safety standards, food and other goods standards, environmental standards and the like. However UK citizens may also have some opinions on such changes being made in the name of making the UK more competitive vs nations like Germany.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:26 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Oh yes and we can smell the fear from the EU.


I think you might find that the UK has always been a major competitor to Germany, before it joined the EEC, after it joined the EEC, whilst the EEC evolved in to the EU with the UK inside it and today and in to the future what ever happens with Brexit. Countries like Germany might fear increased competition from the UK once it is outside the EU if the UK lowers standards on workers rights and protections, minimum wages, health and safety standards, food and other goods standards, environmental standards and the like. However UK citizens may also have some opinions on such changes being made in the name of making the UK more competitive vs nations like Germany.

and yet being outside the eu, we will not even be able to export to them under these circumstances. talk competition what competition.


the germans are so worried out us becasue they pay their pensioners 25,000 euroes a year and we pay ours 7000 a year. i mean they must be shaking in their boots as we speak.

the real interesting aspect to al lthis is the fact the the first world war was caused because brits refused to open their markets in the empire to the germans and full circle we are about to shut ourselves out of the eu market.

what a way to run a country.
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Re: what next?

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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:12 pm

TORIES STORMING AHEAD IN THE POLLS


New YouGov polling for The Times has shown Boris’s Tories soar higher to a 15 point lead, making up more than the Labour and Brexit Party vote shares combined. The ‘Classic Dom’ strategy seems to be working…

Interestingly, the poll found that since July, the Brexit Party vote has fallen by almost two thirds among 2017 Tories, yet only by just 1% among 2017 Labour voters. Now the Brexit Party vote is almost evenly made up of voters who in 2017 went for the Tory (13%) and Labour (8%) parties, meaning it could be an electoral boost to the Tories in the next election, eating away at Labour voters who would never vote Tory. Jack Brereton, the new Tory MP for Stoke-on-Trent South is convinced he would not have won his seat in 2017 if UKIP had not stood against him, taking Labour votes. Meanwhile MPs like Stewart Jackson who UKIP did not stand against lost out by tiny margins…

Boris’s personal ratings have climbed higher too, being twice as popular as Corbyn in the Best Prime Minister question, with 43% to Corbyn’s 21%. And for the first time ever, Boris has overtaken Corbyn in all age brackets. Among those aged 18-24, Boris leads by 32 to 29.
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