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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:24 am

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miltiades wrote:Financial markets do not like instability, Sterling has been on the up since polls earlier were predicting a Conservative majority. Sterling will rise further as the results start to come in.


So not Brexit then..? :lol:

It will be when Boris tries to go for a no deal Brexit.


Brexit will - finally - be done so you’re wrong on that one. However - yes - I hate to rain on a parade but it’s all about to start over. This time regarding the trade talks. :(


Australian PM just tweeted saying he looks forward to finalizing the AUS/UK FTD. The Son of the God Emperor wanted to congratulate the Holy Ghost on his victory. :D

So my take on it is that negotiations between the UK and other countries like Australia, USA, and Canada are already well advanced.

BORIS has the flexibility to walk out of any talks with the EU anytime he wants if they start misbehaving, and the EU doesn't want a no deal BREXIT and not have a FTD with the 5th largest economy. The EU economy is already on the slide without such economic headwinds.

BORIS is now in a very strong negotiating position so I presume the EU will be on their best behavior. The tables just swung in the UK's favour.

Finally, the UK has a Government that can Govern and act.
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:49 am

Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Financial markets do not like instability, Sterling has been on the up since polls earlier were predicting a Conservative majority. Sterling will rise further as the results start to come in.


So not Brexit then..? :lol:

It will be when Boris tries to go for a no deal Brexit.


Brexit will - finally - be done so you’re wrong on that one. However - yes - I hate to rain on a parade but it’s all about to start over. This time regarding the trade talks. :(


Australian PM just tweeted saying he looks forward to finalizing the AUS/UK FTD. The Son of the God Emperor wanted to congratulate the Holy Ghost on his victory. :D

So my take on it is that negotiations between the UK and other countries like Australia, USA, and Canada are already well advanced.

BORIS has the flexibility to walk out of any talks with the EU anytime he wants if they start misbehaving, and the EU doesn't want a no deal BREXIT and not have a FTD with the 5th largest economy. The EU economy is already on the slide without such economic headwinds.

BORIS is now in a very strong negotiating position so I presume the EU will be on their best behavior. The tables just swung in the UK's favour.

Finally, the UK has a Government that can Govern and act.

Don't be too presumptious !! Time will tell !!
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:58 am

miltiades wrote:Don't be too presumptious !! Time will tell !!


Presumptious about what?

If the EU misbehave, they have a lot more to lose than the UK. For the first time, the UK has the upper hand as BORIS has a clear mandate now.

It's in everyone's interest to get a FTD with the EU, but the EU will not hold the UK to ransom because a NO DEAL BREXIT is acceptable as the people just want BREXIT.

One way or another, the UK has the EU over the bench now! They better brace themselves.
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby B25 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:13 am

Over the barrel Paphiti, over the barrel. :)
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:15 am

Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Financial markets do not like instability, Sterling has been on the up since polls earlier were predicting a Conservative majority. Sterling will rise further as the results start to come in.


So not Brexit then..? :lol:

It will be when Boris tries to go for a no deal Brexit.


Brexit will - finally - be done so you’re wrong on that one. However - yes - I hate to rain on a parade but it’s all about to start over. This time regarding the trade talks. :(


Australian PM just tweeted saying he looks forward to finalizing the AUS/UK FTD. The Son of the God Emperor wanted to congratulate the Holy Ghost on his victory. :D

So my take on it is that negotiations between the UK and other countries like Australia, USA, and Canada are already well advanced.

BORIS has the flexibility to walk out of any talks with the EU anytime he wants if they start misbehaving, and the EU doesn't want a no deal BREXIT and not have a FTD with the 5th largest economy. The EU economy is already on the slide without such economic headwinds.

BORIS is now in a very strong negotiating position so I presume the EU will be on their best behavior. The tables just swung in the UK's favour.

Finally, the UK has a Government that can Govern and act.

It is the UK who does not want a no deal Brexit, therefore Boris better behave himself more than the EU. :wink:
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:15 am

B25 wrote:Over the barrel Paphiti, over the barrel. :)


Yep! :wink:
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:17 am

As I said earlier time will reveal.
The EU is the world's largest trading block it will survive with or without the UK.
I wrote earlier on that I had no respect for either of the two leaders. Im not a fan of Corbin or the left. I can only recall voting once for a Labour candidate during Blair's time. Im not tbe least excited about the Clown confirmed as our PM..I must say Im tather pleased that Sterling has gained a few cents both on the US $ and the Euro.
I just hope it holds its ground.
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:18 am

Kikapu wrote:It is the UK who does not want a no deal Brexit, therefore Boris better behave himself more than the EU. :wink:


That isn't true at all.

What the UK doesn't want to do as a proud a strong country that it is, is to not be held to ransom and bullied.

So yeh, it is true that if the EU continue to behave in much the same manner as they have done so in the last 3.5 years, interfering in British internal politics and disrespecting the British people, then a NO DEAL BREXIT will become inevitable.

It's now time for the EU to get serious and accept they lost now and just move on to a reasonable exchange and negotiations process towards a FTD.

The EU still has an opportunity here to ensure that there is a close cooperation between the EU Common Market and the UK.
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:24 am

miltiades wrote:As I said earlier time will reveal.
The EU is the world's largest trading block it will survive with or without the UK.
I wrote earlier on that I had no respect for either of the two leaders. Im not a fan of Corbin or the left. I can only recall voting once for a Labour candidate during Blair's time. Im not tbe least excited about the Clown confirmed as our PM..I must say Im tather pleased that Sterling has gained a few cents both on the US $ and the Euro.
I just hope it holds its ground.


The EU is not the largest trade block at all.

It is in fact the least advantageous as it is much easier to have a FTD with USA, and India because it doesn't come with any baggage and that is before you take into consideration Canada, Japan, Australia and China.

The Sterling is gaining ground because the UK has a fundamentally stronger economy than all EU countries now, and because the markets are relieved they are getting some certainty.
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Re: UK EXIT POLLS

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:39 am

My own research has this to say:
" Although growth is projected to be slow, the EU remains the largesteconomy in the world with a GDP per head of €25 000 for its 500 million consumers. The EU is the world's largest trading block. The EU is theworld's largest trader of manufactured goods and services. ... The EU is the most open to developing countries."
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