by Get Real! » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:23 am
Paphitis wrote:Yes I do know of a case where an older person died from Pneumonia after they caught the common flu. As is the case with Chy-na Virus, the common flu can be very dangerous to old people who have other complications such as Asthma and so on. It knocks off the vulnerable.
by Londonrake » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:50 am
by Paphitis » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:24 am
Get Real! wrote:Paphitis wrote:Yes I do know of a case where an older person died from Pneumonia after they caught the common flu. As is the case with Chy-na Virus, the common flu can be very dangerous to old people who have other complications such as Asthma and so on. It knocks off the vulnerable.
So you’ve moved the goal post to Pneumonia now... nice one!
by repulsewarrior » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:47 am
by cyprusgrump » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:45 pm
erolz66 wrote:
Some thing clearly does not add up here. The idea that the 2020 spike, that is massively higher than 2017/18 spike in England and Wales is down to non covid deaths , like suicide, or people having treatment for other things delayed, or starvation because of economic consequences or even from them not reporting or seeking treatment for other conditions, just does not add up. Anyway you keep plugging away in your 'search for truth' by taking only those things that support what you decided was true on day one and ignoring the best simplest clearest evidence we do have when that does not fit, if you like. I will look elsewhere myself and keep thinking for myself with my starting point being numbers, hard factual indisputable numbers.
New figures from the ONS this morning reveal that the number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 26 June was 360 fewer than the previous week. Significantly it’s also 314 fewer than the five-year average number of deaths for this week of the year…
Fewer people dying than normal may indicate that Covid merely accelerated deaths that would have taken place later in the year. If this is sustained the year’s ‘excess death’ total will decline from the number it has reached already. Good news.
Local Government Minister Simon Clarke confirmed yesterday that even the Black Lives Matter mass gatherings did not result in an increase in overall new cases or the number of fatalities, telling TalkRADIO’s Dan Wooton that “these gatherings happened and there hasn’t been a major resultant spike detectable in the figures.” Perhaps everyone can calm down about the revellers in SoHo on Saturday now…
by Get Real! » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:54 pm
cyprusgrump wrote:Okay...?
by cyprusgrump » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:00 pm
Get Real! wrote:cyprusgrump wrote:Okay...?
Sure! Anything you say Guido!
by Get Real! » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:05 pm
cyprusgrump wrote:Get Real! wrote:cyprusgrump wrote:Okay...?
Sure! Anything you say Guido!
ONS figures GR, dispute them if you are able...
by cyprusgrump » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:51 pm
Get Real! wrote:cyprusgrump wrote:Get Real! wrote:cyprusgrump wrote:Okay...?
Sure! Anything you say Guido!
ONS figures GR, dispute them if you are able...
I think the best thing to come out from all this is that we’ve found you a new pet name…
by Kikapu » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:53 pm
cyprusgrump wrote:erolz66 wrote:
Some thing clearly does not add up here. The idea that the 2020 spike, that is massively higher than 2017/18 spike in England and Wales is down to non covid deaths , like suicide, or people having treatment for other things delayed, or starvation because of economic consequences or even from them not reporting or seeking treatment for other conditions, just does not add up. Anyway you keep plugging away in your 'search for truth' by taking only those things that support what you decided was true on day one and ignoring the best simplest clearest evidence we do have when that does not fit, if you like. I will look elsewhere myself and keep thinking for myself with my starting point being numbers, hard factual indisputable numbers.
No doubt ErLolz will be along in a moment to post the hard, factual indisputable numbers... But in case he is having an embarrassing Bordo moment...
WEEKLY DEATHS CONSISTENTLY BELOW THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGENew figures from the ONS this morning reveal that the number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 26 June was 360 fewer than the previous week. Significantly it’s also 314 fewer than the five-year average number of deaths for this week of the year…
Fewer people dying than normal may indicate that Covid merely accelerated deaths that would have taken place later in the year. If this is sustained the year’s ‘excess death’ total will decline from the number it has reached already. Good news.
Local Government Minister Simon Clarke confirmed yesterday that even the Black Lives Matter mass gatherings did not result in an increase in overall new cases or the number of fatalities, telling TalkRADIO’s Dan Wooton that “these gatherings happened and there hasn’t been a major resultant spike detectable in the figures.” Perhaps everyone can calm down about the revellers in SoHo on Saturday now…
Okay...?
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