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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:08 pm

Earlier on Friday, Lebanon's President Michel Aoun said that the possibility of foreign interference in the devastating explosion in Beirut's port cannot be ruled out. Investigators are inspecting if a missile or a bomb could have been used in the incident, Aoun added.


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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby Londonrake » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:15 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
Earlier on Friday, Lebanon's President Michel Aoun said that the possibility of foreign interference in the devastating explosion in Beirut's port cannot be ruled out. Investigators are inspecting if a missile or a bomb could have been used in the incident, Aoun added.


https://sputniknews.com/photo/202008071 ... dly-Blast/


I imagine, as "the buck stops here" man, with 135 dead, 5000 wounded and 300,000 homeless, plus people rioting on the streets, he must be feeling distinctly nervous at the moment. If you get my drift.
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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:36 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:IS-RA-HELL did it.


It is surprising how that probability was considered by so many people on various forums but on the news no such accusation was considered ! I wonder if it has something to do with their rather tarnished reputation but cannot be expressed without the person uttering such a thought being accused of being an anti-Semite? :?

I just noticed that on SKY News they said that their correspondent, Alex Crawford, was the first western journalist on the site where the explosion was centred and noted that " Alex went in with the first RUSSIAN rescue teams and their dogs." Difficult to ignore them as the Russia insignia was on the shoulders of their blue fatigues ! Very surprised that in the circumstances and seeing as Lebanon is only an hour away, the British Forces in Cyprus were not the first foreign military rescue teams on site ! :roll:
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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby Londonrake » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:03 pm

One of the first informal (net) edicts which surfaced blamed it on an Israeli nuclear strike. Targeting a Hezbollah arms dump. That’s the nature of the internet world we live in today.

The facts about the store of aluminium nitrate and how it got there seem non-contentious. The likely condition of such a chemical, after 6 years in a hot warehouse, also appears universally accepted. The video clearly shows a fire burning in the adjacent building some time before the explosion. Fireworks can be seen going off. The fire brigade were called and arrived to put it out.

The Lebanese President is in a difficult position. His options limited. Trying to blame the disastrous result of Lebanese corruption and criminal negligence on a foreign power is an obvious, albeit desperate course of action.

Why would anybody want to deliberately destroy Beirut and cause such indiscriminate civilian carnage?

I‘m surprised Tof didn’t have the imagination to blame Mari on a Turkish missile strike. Perhaps, if those containers had been stored in Nicosia he would have.
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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby Cap » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:04 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:IS-RA-HELL did it.


:lol: :lol:

Sure they did.
Just like they did Mari.
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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:19 pm

In today's political world, in all honesty, it is very difficult to rule out anything cynical as to what happened with the explosion in Beirut, even when it may be pure carelessness of the Lebanon's government..
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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby Londonrake » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:33 pm

Kikapu wrote:In today's political world, in all honesty, it is very difficult to rule out anything cynical as to what happened with the explosion in Beirut, even when it may be pure carelessness of the Lebanon's government..


Ruling out cynicism and ruling out logic/the facts are 2 different things. Please read my last post and comment accordingly if you think it illogical/likely to be wrong and why.

I would ask, where’s the evidence for any Israeli involvement? But where they’re concerned evidence of course isn’t normally required.

What’s anybody’s - let alone Israels - motive likely to be for destroying the city of Beirut and causing such (purely civilian) suffering? :? It doesn’t add up. Government indifference - as per Mari - though does.
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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:56 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:In today's political world, in all honesty, it is very difficult to rule out anything cynical as to what happened with the explosion in Beirut, even when it may be pure carelessness of the Lebanon's government..


Ruling out cynicism and ruling out logic/the facts are 2 different things. Please read my last post and comment accordingly if you think it illogical/likely to be wrong and why.

I would ask, where’s the evidence for any Israeli involvement? But where they’re concerned evidence of course isn’t normally required.

What’s anybody’s - let alone Israels - motive likely to be for destroying the city of Beirut and causing such (purely civilian) suffering? :? It doesn’t add up. Government indifference - as per Mari - though does.


I am just making a general comment without pointing fingers to anyone, that’s all. :D
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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby Londonrake » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:29 pm

Kikapu wrote:I am just making a general comment without pointing fingers to anyone, that’s all. :D


I generally appreciate your comments and views. Well........................................OK......................sometimes. :lol: :wink:

Nevertheless, we witness too much of how forensic, stand up in court, proof is require for certain events but others basically amount to - wink, wink, nudge, nudge, you know what I mean. A blanket acceptance of what often amounts to the totally unsupported absurd.

I doubt the people of Lebanon will be fobbed off with "It was the Israelis!". There appears to be a paper-trail, as long as your arm, of (ignored) pleas to get rid of the chemicals over 6 years by the Beirut port authorities to the government. They even warned of the stores capability to destroy the city.
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Re: Beirut explosion .......

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:41 pm

Kikapu:
I am just making a general comment without pointing fingers to anyone, that’s all.


That is the way I took your comment .... as being tongue-in-cheek!

My comment was that whilst it was almost the main topic of conversation on the forums I had seen ....... it was not discussed at all in Media or on TV. It seems to be a taboo subject .... go there at your peril!

My comment really was one of why any contrary remarks about Israel, Zionism, Gaza attacks or the remotest support for Palestinians gets people pilloried. Many lose their jobs for being seen to be anti-Semitic ...... rather than actually BEING anti-Semitic. The definition of anti- Semitism seems to have taken on a much wider meaning of late ....... rather than just being criticism of Jews because of their religion or of Judaism, it is applied to any contrary comment on anything that could be even remotely associated with Israel or Israeli's in any way. :x

Israel has a 'reputation' so, it is almost an automatic response for many to consider Israeli involvement when there is any unexplained event in the region. :roll:
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