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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:08 pm

Maximus wrote:Common sense is;

Don't violate other countries borders and exclusive economic zones.

That's proper conduct.

Follow the law of the sea.

This has nothing to do with trump.

It has everything to do with erdogan and turkey. Trying to steal other people's land in the region and resources in the med sea.

Common sense exists with every other country in the region except Turkey and erdogans lackey in North Cyprus and Libya.

Greece shows immense restraint with Turkey and the EU has so much patience they might as well be aloof.

Don't try and divert attetion away to trump or make it seem like Turkey has some value claim going on.

She is attempting to violate other countries rights with gunboat diplomacy. Everyone else is trying to enforce the law.

You are just a kid so I don't expect you to understand. What I'm saying is we are all in a ship with Donald Cunt Trump at the helm. With a cunt of a captain like that anything can happen on that ship :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:11 pm

Paphitis wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:The world is full of idiots and we have some running countries. Just looking at Donald Trump you can clearly see what a sorry state the world is in. Let's hope this doesn't escalate and common sense prevails.


Donald Trump has enough common sense to abide by UNCLOS. The US has never questioned it's validity and has even gone as far to conduct freedom of navigation in the South China Sea in order to support the claims of several countries in the area.

The idiots which seem to violate UNCLOS are China and Turkey. So it seems all you have is a whole heap of hypocrisy when trying to sledge a POTUS who has never violated UNCLOs whilst in office and probably has no intention of doing so against any country of the world.

Common sense and Donald Cunt Trump shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. You are bigger idiot than he is. Ask Milti if you don'e believe me. :lol:
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Maximus » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:58 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Maximus wrote:Common sense is;

Don't violate other countries borders and exclusive economic zones.

That's proper conduct.

Follow the law of the sea.

This has nothing to do with trump.

It has everything to do with erdogan and turkey. Trying to steal other people's land in the region and resources in the med sea.

Common sense exists with every other country in the region except Turkey and erdogans lackey in North Cyprus and Libya.

Greece shows immense restraint with Turkey and the EU has so much patience they might as well be aloof.

Don't try and divert attetion away to trump or make it seem like Turkey has some value claim going on.

She is attempting to violate other countries rights with gunboat diplomacy. Everyone else is trying to enforce the law.

You are just a kid so I don't expect you to understand. What I'm saying is we are all in a ship with Donald Cunt Trump at the helm. With a cunt of a captain like that anything can happen on that ship :roll: :roll: :roll:


So you want Donald to strap some lead weight to Endorgan and throw him overboard?

Why dont the Turks do it? Maybe because most of them support the violation of their neighbors sovereign rights.....

So, what does the way that Turks behave have to do with Donald?

Its like, saying, I am going to behave like a criminal with the neighbors next door and the guy that lives in the next city is to blame for my behavior.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Maximus » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:00 pm

Turkey's foreign minister has spoken with his counterparts from Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria, Estonia, Finland and Lithuania.

Ahead of the the EU's foreign affairs council meeting today.

Explaining Turkey's position in the east med.

Although, everyone knows the Turks are not adhering to international law as they persistently profess. It is clear that Turkey is trespassing in to EU member states EEZ's and is trying to steal energy resources.

Other than that, what is ridiculous about Turkeys modus operandi is that she is trying to convince the world and the EU in particular to her claims in the med which violate Greece's and Cyprus's EEZ's. If the EU concedes, Turkey will then use that claim to the eastern med to try and block the east med gas pipeline project that will take gas from Cypriot, Israeli and Egyptian fields to Europe. Basically, the Turks want the EU to give them the rod that Erdogan will use to break their own backs later on. You got to be slow and dim not to see it coming.

Their position is a farce and the mindset is absolutely delusional.

You see the problems that Turkey will create later on? It wont end until they do what is necessary to end it because appeasement doesnt and hasnt worked. Things just gets worse.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Paphitis » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:20 am

MR-from-NG wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:The world is full of idiots and we have some running countries. Just looking at Donald Trump you can clearly see what a sorry state the world is in. Let's hope this doesn't escalate and common sense prevails.


Donald Trump has enough common sense to abide by UNCLOS. The US has never questioned it's validity and has even gone as far to conduct freedom of navigation in the South China Sea in order to support the claims of several countries in the area.

The idiots which seem to violate UNCLOS are China and Turkey. So it seems all you have is a whole heap of hypocrisy when trying to sledge a POTUS who has never violated UNCLOs whilst in office and probably has no intention of doing so against any country of the world.

Common sense and Donald Cunt Trump shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. You are bigger idiot than he is. Ask Milti if you don'e believe me. :lol:


Because you are a beain washed sheep that has been conditioned to a particular narrative.

The real looneys however, are Erdog, Chi Ji Peanut with Bat Soup and Pootin.

I put Pootin in that category because the guy has to either be stupid for giving his daughter an untested vaccine, or he is lieing. I hope the latter for his daughter's sake.

Trump on the other hand has a long history of very clever take downs without a political filter just like when he took Shillery down by saying if he wins, she will be in jail. That would have to go down in history as the knock out blow of the century.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Paphitis » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:26 am

Maximus wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Maximus wrote:Common sense is;

Don't violate other countries borders and exclusive economic zones.

That's proper conduct.

Follow the law of the sea.

This has nothing to do with trump.

It has everything to do with erdogan and turkey. Trying to steal other people's land in the region and resources in the med sea.

Common sense exists with every other country in the region except Turkey and erdogans lackey in North Cyprus and Libya.

Greece shows immense restraint with Turkey and the EU has so much patience they might as well be aloof.

Don't try and divert attetion away to trump or make it seem like Turkey has some value claim going on.

She is attempting to violate other countries rights with gunboat diplomacy. Everyone else is trying to enforce the law.

You are just a kid so I don't expect you to understand. What I'm saying is we are all in a ship with Donald Cunt Trump at the helm. With a cunt of a captain like that anything can happen on that ship :roll: :roll: :roll:


So you want Donald to strap some lead weight to Endorgan and throw him overboard?

Why dont the Turks do it? Maybe because most of them support the violation of their neighbors sovereign rights.....

So, what does the way that Turks behave have to do with Donald?

Its like, saying, I am going to behave like a criminal with the neighbors next door and the guy that lives in the next city is to blame for my behavior.


You can't compare Erdogan with Trump.

Erdogan is a criminal. Pure and simple. He isn't abiding by any international norms or International law such as UNCLOS.

the US on the other hand supports and backs the principles and laws of UNCLOS. It supports Greece's and Cyprus' EEZ claims. It does not support Turkey's illegal claims, nor Chy-na's illegal claims in the South China Sea.

It is behaving as a kind of international cop, but who else is going to do it? If it wasn't for the US, Chy-na would just get away with it.

So if we were to put erdogan and Trump side by side, it's easy to see which one is doing their best to be responsible and which is behaving like a rogue terrorist. Erdogan is the war mongering terrorist, hated by virtually every neighbor of their's much like Chy-na is,
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Get Real! » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:59 am

Paphitis wrote:Erdogan is a criminal. Pure and simple. He isn't abiding by any international norms or International law such as UNCLOS.

the US on the other hand supports and backs the principles and laws of UNCLOS. It supports Greece's and Cyprus' EEZ claims. It does not support Turkey's illegal claims, nor Chy-na's illegal claims in the South China Sea.

It is behaving as a kind of international cop, but who else is going to do it? If it wasn't for the US, Chy-na would just get away with it.

So if we were to put erdogan and Trump side by side, it's easy to see which one is doing their best to be responsible and which is behaving like a rogue terrorist. Erdogan is the war mongering terrorist, hated by virtually every neighbor of their's much like Chy-na is,

Trump became a criminal the moment he attacked Syria with a barrage of missiles early in his tenure, and for a whole bunch of criminal misdeeds (both military and financial) thereafter, which I won’t bother listing.

They’re both criminals, dumb, egotistic and pathetic clowns... their only difference is that Trump smiles more often. :)
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Paphitis » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:24 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Erdogan is a criminal. Pure and simple. He isn't abiding by any international norms or International law such as UNCLOS.

the US on the other hand supports and backs the principles and laws of UNCLOS. It supports Greece's and Cyprus' EEZ claims. It does not support Turkey's illegal claims, nor Chy-na's illegal claims in the South China Sea.

It is behaving as a kind of international cop, but who else is going to do it? If it wasn't for the US, Chy-na would just get away with it.

So if we were to put erdogan and Trump side by side, it's easy to see which one is doing their best to be responsible and which is behaving like a rogue terrorist. Erdogan is the war mongering terrorist, hated by virtually every neighbor of their's much like Chy-na is,

Trump became a criminal the moment he attacked Syria with a barrage of missiles early in his tenure, and for a whole bunch of criminal misdeeds (both military and financial) thereafter, which I won’t bother listing.

They’re both criminals, dumb, egotistic and pathetic clowns... their only difference is that Trump smiles more often. :)


Trump defeated ISIS and was operating in areas that were not even under Syria's control.

The only time I will be critical of Trump was when he decided to withdraw from Syria after he defeated ISIS. He withdrew from Kurdish Controlled areas and I consider that to be a betrayal of the Kurds. It opened them up to both Syrian and Turkish attack. The Coalition forces would have stayed and helped the Kurds form a separatist State - their own country.

This was Trumps biggest betrayal or even stuff up. The Kurds made a massive contribution to the defeat of ISIL. Who can forget the siege of Kobani where Kurdish Women were fighting with such bravery and dedication against the ISIS terrorist and against all odds. The Coalition helped them from the air, but by gee, the Kurds really fought so hard and so well, and had ISIS running after what seemed like a battle they couldn't win.

The Kurds deserved better.

I am willing to accept the fact that Trump's betrayal was criminal, but he himself is no criminal. Certainly no criminal like Erdowan is. Trump has never violated UNCLOS and has no intention of doing such a thing. On the contrary, Trump has even put his money where his mouth is and conducts freedom of navigation in the South China Sea in support of the claims of some 8 countries against China.

What Turkey is doing to Greece and Cyprus is no different to what China is doing in the South China Sea. And Trump is standing up and being counted for what is right and in complete accordance with UNCLOS.

As to being dumb. I reject that. because if Trump is dumb, then Hillary, Bush, and Biden are dumber. Because as dumb as you say Trump is, he was clearly smart enough to absolutely destroy all of them. Hillary having some 20 years experience in US politics was no match. The reason for that is this. Trump has no filter like other politicians do. he will say what is on his mind and it works for him, He comes up with the most wittiest, and hilarious come backs and his take downs can be brutal. We see it time and time again, with journalists, other politicians and others.

The other thing that sets Trump apart and speaks of his intelligence is North Korea. if Hillary won office, there would have been a war with North Korea. Trump not only avoided a war with North Korea but even established a relationship with North Korea allowing the US to have dialogue with them before actually going to war with them which should always be the last resort and after all avenues of dialogue are exhausted.

As being egotistical. yes he has an ego. But nowhere near the ego of Erdowan or Pootin.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby erolz66 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:40 am

Paphitis wrote:I am willing to accept the fact that Trump's betrayal was criminal, but he himself is no criminal.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... nald_Trump

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_aff ... nald_Trump

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Kikapu » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:07 pm

Along with everything else, Erdogan is also a hypocrite.

Erdogan is upset because UAE has agreed to have diplomatic relationship with Israel and accuse the UAE as stabbing the Palestinians in the back.

Wait a minute, didn’t Turkey have a diplomatic relationship with Israel for decades along with Erdogan have a personal relationship with Israeli leaders? :D

Wait a minute, didn’t Erdogan have a personal relationship with Assad for decades taking holidays together, but today, Assad is a criminal? :D

Wait a minute, didn‘t Erdogan and Gülen have a personal relationship for decades, and now Gülen is a terrorist? :D

As for Trump, apart from all his unethical dealings with Erdogan, he is just a cunt, who is violating the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the American citizens and now is trying to interfere with the next presidential elections by preventing Mail voting. :roll:
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