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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Maximus » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:33 pm

Londonrake wrote:https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/turkey-slams-defence-accord-between-cyprus-and-france/

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The Turks are starting to feel insecure, and they have run out of road with the EU.

The EU is probably going to impose sanctions at the next meeting towards the end of the month.

The TC's better start reflecting on what they have done in Cyprus for the past 46 years as well because Turkey wont be in the north forever.

I said it before many years ago, they have about 50 years worth of illegal "TRNC" going by similar historical situations like the division of Germany and apartheid in South Africa. These lasted for about 50 years each then ended. There is nothing new under the sun and history repeats itself.

They are going to have to decide whether to stay in a EU democratic Cyprus (as an ethnic minority) or within Turkey where they will have their "security guarantees". Most of the settlers will be given notice to leave and many will leave on their own accord anyway without a Turkish military occupation on the island.

The Cyprus problem will not be solved by putting pen to paper to sanction a TC and Turkish apartheid. History has shown this. Whatever one side loves, the other side hates. When one side says up, the other, always says down. The present situation will just end and a new reality will dawn on the TC's, that they are a minority and cant maintain their unreasonable, unrealistic illegitimate demands from the rest of the population without an illegal Turkish occupation.

What goes around comes around and you reap what you sow.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Paphitis » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:33 am

Unconfirmed reports that a Hellenic Navy attack submarine has been harassing the Orus Reis and the other 4 accompanying Turkish Naval Ships.

Also, it is alleged the Greek Submarine passes directly under the Orus Reis and and the cables were broken.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Kikapu » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:29 am

Paphitis wrote:Unconfirmed reports that a Hellenic Navy attack submarine has been harassing the Orus Reis and the other 4 accompanying Turkish Naval Ships.

Also, it is alleged the Greek Submarine passes directly under the Orus Reis and and the cables were broken.

Turkey has a different story that a Greek warship was damaged and went to port after a collision with a Turkish warship.

Who to believe with unconfirmed reports?
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Maximus » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:34 pm

The Egyptian parliament ratified the EEZ delimitation agreement with Greece today.

Endorgan says that he will not recognize it, claiming it falls in an area in Turkeys continental shelf. Despite the agreement being completely compatible with the UN convention law of the sea.

Meanwhile in the UK,

A group of high ranking academics from the UK's most prestigious universities, some other personalities and Stephen Fry, have penned and signed an open letter to The Times, expressing their support for Greece and Cyprus. They are asking for the British government to express its complete support for their rights to their EEZ's while they uphold multilateral, international rules.

On the opposing side of the argument, Pakistan express's its support to Turkey. Pakistanis says that if there is a need for blood, their blood will flow with the theirs. Pakistan will stand with Turkey as it did during the time of the caliphate.

Elsewhere in the neighborhood; a top official of the PKK has also weighed in on the argument. Saying that Endorgan can only justify and consolidate his regimes existence by waging wars with internal and regional opponents. The Turkish regime is not achieving the desired result by waging war against us, it has extended this plan beyond the country’s borders,’’ Karayılan said. Turkish forces attacked Syria, Iraq and Libya, playing games on the backs of the Arab peoples, and pursuing a policy of persecution. Now the Turkish regime is preparing to provoke a conflict with Greece in the eastern Mediterranean,” he added.

it seems like the surrounding counties and peoples might end up getting together to give the Turks an Ottoman slap and the Pakistanis will enter the fray so they can bleed out.

Lets just hope diplomacy wins the day and all he regions problems finally get resolved through dialogue.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:18 pm

...said in Rize on the Turkish Black Sea,

Turkey to fully protect rights in E Med, Libya, Aegean: Erdoğan

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turke ... gan-157426

...what,the Problem, has become (read: is becoming).
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Maximus » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:51 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...said in Rize on the Turkish Black Sea,

Turkey to fully protect rights in E Med, Libya, Aegean: Erdoğan

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turke ... gan-157426

...what,the Problem, has become (read: is becoming).


Turkey's problems have been accumulating and mounting for years. They are taking their toll.

I know erdo is a psychotic fool but turkey is bankrupt.

The last thing turkey needs is to open another front with Egypt and Greece, with French support and eu sanctions.

I think that would be suicide.

But the man has lost the plot. He has delusions of grandeur and thinks he is 'he man" and a master of the universe.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Paphitis » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:36 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Unconfirmed reports that a Hellenic Navy attack submarine has been harassing the Orus Reis and the other 4 accompanying Turkish Naval Ships.

Also, it is alleged the Greek Submarine passes directly under the Orus Reis and and the cables were broken.

Turkey has a different story that a Greek warship was damaged and went to port after a collision with a Turkish warship.

Who to believe with unconfirmed reports?


Yes they have a different story.

The incident with regard to the collision doesn’t seem to be unconfirmed. The Greek Frigate Limnos rammed the rear starboard side of a Turkish Frigate. The Turkish Frigate had to limp back to port and could have sank with massive damage. The Greek Frigate sustained only minor damage and remained at sea and joined a joint US and French exercise.

There have been hundreds of photos on social media.

The reports about the Greek submarine remain unconfirmed. I doubt this incident will ever be confirmed by the Greek Ministry of Defence as it involves a submarine. It allegedly, there is a submarine harassing the Turkish Fleet.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:00 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...indeed, as Navies go Greece is a credible equal to Turkey; but by land it is another story.

Those S-400s may come in handy, how many more will Russia sell them?

...Armenia makes a nice distraction, Turkey's enemies are everywhere.

What war with who; when, it remains his choosing.

...there are two (three) years left for Turkey's Centennial (and the next election): timing is everything.


RW my brother from another mother ... there will not be any elections in 23.. Erdo knows his popularity is waning and will lose.. what would a wise dicktator do? I think impose martial law!! Erdo the dicktators biggest fear is losing the elections and all of a sudden being a civilian.. the corruption and other crimes will land him in jail
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