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[Kikapu]

As I understand it, if Trump’s impeached and the Senate vote 70% in favour at the subsequent trial he will never be allowed to stand for office again. That’s a lot of votes though and despite some high profile Republicans declaring support the result isn’t a forgone conclusion.

Although Trump’s getting all the coverage I’m personally concerned (and always have been) about Biden. I simply don’t think he’s up to the job. That in normal times, let alone with a pandemic raging and potential widespread civil disruption brewing. I hope I’m wrong.

There are a few world leaders - who have no concerns about petty things like elections - that must be laughing their socks off right now. At least Trump, unlike Biden, wasn’t a person you’d tend to be tempted to try your luck with.

And my understanding is, once the senate trial of Trump’s impeachment brought by the House passes in the Senate by 2/3rd (67 votes), then another vote will be taken by the senate to ban Trump from holding elected office ever again, which would only need a simple majority to pass in that order.

Biden has been around for long time and he knows how the world’s diplomacy works, so don’t expect him to be an easy pushover.

You need to get the 67% first which is almost impossible!

It’s an act of desperation to sideline the next POTUS in 2024 but it won’t work.

Biden is going to be a total disaster.

The 67 votes in the senate depends on the Banana Republican Party senators if they would wish to free themselves of any association with criminal insurrectionist Donald Trump. If they want to remain loyal to Trump, that would be good news to the Democratic Party as the Banana Republican Party will be known the anti democracy and constitution party, which will be very damaging to their brand. Either way, the Democratic Party wins. Best chance for the BRP is to cut the Trump cancerous tumour out to start redeeming itself somewhat to rebuild their Republican Party brand from Banana Republican Party brand as it is now.

[miltiades]

"The bank, which has been Trump’s primary lender for over two decades, will stop doing business with the outgoing president and his companies, a source told the New York Times. 

The Trump Organization owes about $340 million in outstanding loans to the lender, Reuters reported separately"

Some ....billionaire. thats just one bank !!
" Trump’s Biggest Lender Deutsche Bank Joins Boycott Against Him After Capitol Riots"

[Paphitis]

As I understand it, if Trump’s impeached and the Senate vote 70% in favour at the subsequent trial he will never be allowed to stand for office again. That’s a lot of votes though and despite some high profile Republicans declaring support the result isn’t a forgone conclusion.

Although Trump’s getting all the coverage I’m personally concerned (and always have been) about Biden. I simply don’t think he’s up to the job. That in normal times, let alone with a pandemic raging and potential widespread civil disruption brewing. I hope I’m wrong.

There are a few world leaders - who have no concerns about petty things like elections - that must be laughing their socks off right now. At least Trump, unlike Biden, wasn’t a person you’d tend to be tempted to try your luck with.

And my understanding is, once the senate trial of Trump’s impeachment brought by the House passes in the Senate by 2/3rd (67 votes), then another vote will be taken by the senate to ban Trump from holding elected office ever again, which would only need a simple majority to pass in that order.

Biden has been around for long time and he knows how the world’s diplomacy works, so don’t expect him to be an easy pushover.

You need to get the 67% first which is almost impossible!

It’s an act of desperation to sideline the next POTUS in 2024 but it won’t work.

Biden is going to be a total disaster.

The 67 votes in the senate depends on the Banana Republican Party senators if they would wish to free themselves of any association with criminal insurrectionist Donald Trump. If they want to remain loyal to Trump, that would be good news to the Democratic Party as the Banana Republican Party will be known the anti democracy and constitution party, which will be very damaging to their brand. Either way, the Democratic Party wins. Best chance for the BRP is to cut the Trump cancerous tumour out to start redeeming itself somewhat to rebuild their Republican Party brand from Banana Republican Party brand as it is now.

Apart from 1 or 2 rebels, the GOP party won’t play ball.

In fact one thing is for sure. The GOP party will be heavily opposed to any moves from the fascist Democrats.

[Paphitis]

"The bank, which has been Trump’s primary lender for over two decades, will stop doing business with the outgoing president and his companies, a source told the New York Times. 

The Trump Organization owes about $340 million in outstanding loans to the lender, Reuters reported separately"

Some ....billionaire. thats just one bank !!
" Trump’s Biggest Lender Deutsche Bank Joins Boycott Against Him After Capitol Riots"

You really need to hand in your accounting degree.

If someone owes 340 million but has cash and assets worth 1.34 billion or more, then they are a billionaire.

Trump has assets worth several billions. At least 3 and up to 5 billion. Well his kids do anyway. Trump doesn’t have any control over the empire.

But once again, it’s fake news. When they say that the Trump Organisation owes 340 million, it has little or nothing to do with Donald Trump. It’s the business that has this debt. And Trump has no shares in it and isn’t even a director or able to derive a benefit from the business.

[erolz66]

The money has left , the enablers have left. They are not coming back. Without them Trump can not deliver anything to his based or the enablers. Only sheep believe Trump can deliver anything without the money , without the enablers. They have gone and they not coming back. Trump can never secure power again. All he can do is damage the GOP, which given the man's vindictiveness is almost certain.

[erolz66]

"The bank, which has been Trump’s primary lender for over two decades, will stop doing business with the outgoing president and his companies, a source told the New York Times. 

The Trump Organization owes about $340 million in outstanding loans to the lender, Reuters reported separately"

Some ....billionaire. thats just one bank !!
" Trump’s Biggest Lender Deutsche Bank Joins Boycott Against Him After Capitol Riots"

You really need to hand in your accounting degree.

If someone owes 340 million but has cash and assets worth 1.34 billion or more, then they are a billionaire.

Trump has assets worth several billions. At least 3 and up to 5 billion. Well his kids do anyway. Trump doesn’t have any control over the empire.

If someone owes 340 million and it is called in and they are unable to liquidate assets other than at humongous loss, then they are screwed. That you think you know what 'assets' Trump has shows you for the fool. An asset that has a first charge over it is not an asset that can be liquidated. Does Trump have liquid assets, unencumbered by first charges, that he can use to pay down the Deutsche Bank loan ? I doubt it. I suspect the whole thing is a house of cards myself.

[Paphitis]

"The bank, which has been Trump’s primary lender for over two decades, will stop doing business with the outgoing president and his companies, a source told the New York Times. 

The Trump Organization owes about $340 million in outstanding loans to the lender, Reuters reported separately"

Some ....billionaire. thats just one bank !!
" Trump’s Biggest Lender Deutsche Bank Joins Boycott Against Him After Capitol Riots"

Secondly, if you read Buffet’s book, you may learn the importance of debt or borrowing to establish assets, capital gains, and residual income.

Only fuckwits like you save their pennies to buy a house because they are scared.

As soon as my kids turn 17, they will get a big deposit from me and their Dad’s Bank Guarantees. I will take them by the hand to buy a property they can develop and make money or buy a rental at the very least.

That’s how you do it.

And the other thing is this. I will make my kids asset rich. If some fuckwit decides they want to marry them for money, I will hold mortgages over EVERYTHING and caveats just like the Banks do. If they divorce, I will repossess everything they own and fuckwit can take the highway because there will be nothing!

Up there for thinking bozo. You are incapable.

[Paphitis]

Oh and you imbeciles think it’s that easy to bankrupt someone like Trump.

You can call in anything you like but if Trunp is financial - there isn’t a financial reason to call in, then the whole process stalls in the courts for a very long time.

And they can only call in his security, not the whole corporation.

You can’t declare someone bankrupt if they are financial or have the ability to pay. The security commissions and corporations act is very explicit. The requirement to be financial is to pay all outstanding debts on time and in full. Directors have a legal responsibility to this act.

And all Trump needs to do is liquidate assets to pay the loans. But more than likely, Yrump will just find another lender.

I’m using the word Trump very lightly here as it’s not actually Donald Trump who has the billions or the 340 million dollar debt. It’s in all likelihood IVANKA and Trump Jr.

[Paphitis]

I mean what kind of fascism are you all preaching.

Cancel people's voices because you don’t like them. Cancel people’s jobs because you don’t like them.

Call in loans because you don’t like them.

What kind of justice is that? It’s not justice. It’s the definition of fascism.

And you will find it is very hard to call in loans. The Bank can try obviously but they beed a trigger. Either in the lending leveraging or serviceability or a change in risk. There would be a clearly defined contract.

[Kikapu]

As I understand it, if Trump’s impeached and the Senate vote 70% in favour at the subsequent trial he will never be allowed to stand for office again. That’s a lot of votes though and despite some high profile Republicans declaring support the result isn’t a forgone conclusion.

Although Trump’s getting all the coverage I’m personally concerned (and always have been) about Biden. I simply don’t think he’s up to the job. That in normal times, let alone with a pandemic raging and potential widespread civil disruption brewing. I hope I’m wrong.

There are a few world leaders - who have no concerns about petty things like elections - that must be laughing their socks off right now. At least Trump, unlike Biden, wasn’t a person you’d tend to be tempted to try your luck with.

And my understanding is, once the senate trial of Trump’s impeachment brought by the House passes in the Senate by 2/3rd (67 votes), then another vote will be taken by the senate to ban Trump from holding elected office ever again, which would only need a simple majority to pass in that order.

Biden has been around for long time and he knows how the world’s diplomacy works, so don’t expect him to be an easy pushover.

You need to get the 67% first which is almost impossible!

It’s an act of desperation to sideline the next POTUS in 2024 but it won’t work.

Biden is going to be a total disaster.

The 67 votes in the senate depends on the Banana Republican Party senators if they would wish to free themselves of any association with criminal insurrectionist Donald Trump. If they want to remain loyal to Trump, that would be good news to the Democratic Party as the Banana Republican Party will be known the anti democracy and constitution party, which will be very damaging to their brand. Either way, the Democratic Party wins. Best chance for the BRP is to cut the Trump cancerous tumour out to start redeeming itself somewhat to rebuild their Republican Party brand from Banana Republican Party brand as it is now.

Apart from 1 or 2 rebels, the GOP party won’t play ball.

In fact one thing is for sure. The GOP party will be heavily opposed to any moves from the fascist Democrats.

I only have one word for you...........Georgia.

Two Georgia senate seats went to the Democrats after Trump lost the presidential election and went on a self destructive mode for himself and the Banana Republican Party. The mid-term elections in 2 years may well become a massacre for the GOP as the Democrats challenge the GOP seats up for grabs will remind the voters how the BRP sided with insurrectionist Trump.