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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:40 pm

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Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:The hardest but about my day today is that on engine start I had an over temp on the number 2 engine for 1 second which necessitated a fuel cut off. Tried again and had another over temp. Then had to wait 5 minutes for the turbine to cool down, tried again and another over temp.

The danger here is that if the over temp goes for more than 3 seconds you cook the turbine. The engine has to be removed and reconditioned costing a few million. So had to wait for an engineer to come. In the end, another plane was flown from Canberra so that the engineers can do an engine change tomorrow. Spent a couple of hours in the lounge. Pity I couldn’t have any alcohol. :(


If you had one of these point-gap gauges, you could have fixed the problem yourself. :lol:

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I offered Kikapu. But they told me to go to the lounge.

Something about not being a licensed engineer. :lol:

I said if I’m flying this today, the head engineer is coming too as insurance. :lol:


Paphitis, did you fry this engine? :lol:

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That looks interesting. What incident was that out of curiosity?
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:42 pm

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No no, it goes way beyond that. You need to understand why the call was even secretly recorded because Lindsey Graham tried the same shit few weeks earlier as Trump and when Graham was confronted' by the media he called the Georgia’s election official a liar, because that’s what cunt politicians do.


It’s quite illegal to secretly record phone conversations without the other person’s knowledge or permission. At least so in Australia, I would therefore presume it’s the same in the US.


Only one person in the conversing group needs to know that the call is being secretly recorded, which then makes it legal in the USA.

The Secretary of Georgia and his lawyer knew that the conversation was being recorded, therefore it meets the legal requirement to secretly record a conversation. :wink:

If Trump didn’t know he was being recorded, then that falls under the category of tough shit. :D


Who cares now Kikapu? It’s all over.

Trump is in the clear! :D

It’s literally academic as the phone conversation is no big deal and certainly won’t convict Trump of any wrong doing as he didn’t quite get to the point of asking them to rig it. He kept saying to look into in and investigate and there is nothing wrong with that.

Plus, there is another US Law:

Under the federal Wiretap Act, it is illegal for any person to secretly record an oral, telephonic, or electronic communication that other parties to the communication reasonably expect to be private. (18 U.S.C. § 2511.)
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:18 pm

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Plus, there is another US Law:

Under the federal Wiretap Act, it is illegal for any person to secretly record an oral, telephonic, or electronic communication that other parties to the communication reasonably expect to be private. (18 U.S.C. § 2511.)


That is correct, but that involves when it is done by a third person who is not Party to the conversation taking place.

That is like me recording other people without their knowledge when I am not involved in a discussion with them.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:27 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The hardest but about my day today is that on engine start I had an over temp on the number 2 engine for 1 second which necessitated a fuel cut off. Tried again and had another over temp. Then had to wait 5 minutes for the turbine to cool down, tried again and another over temp.

The danger here is that if the over temp goes for more than 3 seconds you cook the turbine. The engine has to be removed and reconditioned costing a few million. So had to wait for an engineer to come. In the end, another plane was flown from Canberra so that the engineers can do an engine change tomorrow. Spent a couple of hours in the lounge. Pity I couldn’t have any alcohol. :(


If you had one of these point-gap gauges, you could have fixed the problem yourself. :lol:

C14367AD-E808-4A0A-B19B-266BCE6A9B55.jpeg


I offered Kikapu. But they told me to go to the lounge.

Something about not being a licensed engineer. :lol:

I said if I’m flying this today, the head engineer is coming too as insurance. :lol:


Paphitis, did you fry this engine? :lol:

FF4B6DCA-749E-4149-B1B7-0991BBD411D9.jpeg


That looks interesting. What incident was that out of curiosity?


It has been all over the news the last couple of days. United Boeing 777 after take off the engine goes to a complete meltdown. Plane landed safely, but a lot of engine fragments rained down near Denver airport. About 100 of these B-777 have been grounded worldwide with this type of engines.





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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:41 pm

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Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, do you know what happened to the pilots you knew who had left their jobs in Australia and went to the USA on the same visa as yours a month or two ahead of your planned departure? Did they return back to Australia in the end since they would have been furloughed almost immediately around this time last year by the American airline companies they were meant to work for?


I know what happened to the ones I speak to. They have been stood down.

Not just them but thousands of pilots in general have been stood down although they are starting to redeploy them at least part time so they can at least have current crews.

I got a letter from them as well saying that my engagement with them will be postponed so affective lay stood down but have an active employment number.

US Immigration hasn’t cancelled my 3 year BISA which I thought they might do. Still in my passport and still active as far as the US is concerned.

All of us are facing stand downs as of next month, or the sack if you have pissed management off, or redundancies and par outs.


It the same world over with all the airlines, I’m afraid. Many employees collective bargainings between the Unions and the company will be cancelled and renegotiated. Next 4 years looks quite bleak for the aviation industry sorry to say.

I think your visa is good for 4 years and since you did not voluntarily withdrew your application, it may remain valid until then.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:42 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Plus, there is another US Law:

Under the federal Wiretap Act, it is illegal for any person to secretly record an oral, telephonic, or electronic communication that other parties to the communication reasonably expect to be private. (18 U.S.C. § 2511.)


That is correct, but that involves when it is done by a third person who is not Party to the conversation taking place.

That is like me recording other people without their knowledge when I am not involved in a discussion with them.


It’s different in Australia. You can’t record anyone here and use it against them whether you are involved in the conversation or not. I know that because I recorded someone and wanted to use it and my Lawyer said it would be inadmissible and I would fall foul of the law.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:43 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The hardest but about my day today is that on engine start I had an over temp on the number 2 engine for 1 second which necessitated a fuel cut off. Tried again and had another over temp. Then had to wait 5 minutes for the turbine to cool down, tried again and another over temp.

The danger here is that if the over temp goes for more than 3 seconds you cook the turbine. The engine has to be removed and reconditioned costing a few million. So had to wait for an engineer to come. In the end, another plane was flown from Canberra so that the engineers can do an engine change tomorrow. Spent a couple of hours in the lounge. Pity I couldn’t have any alcohol. :(


If you had one of these point-gap gauges, you could have fixed the problem yourself. :lol:

C14367AD-E808-4A0A-B19B-266BCE6A9B55.jpeg


I offered Kikapu. But they told me to go to the lounge.

Something about not being a licensed engineer. :lol:

I said if I’m flying this today, the head engineer is coming too as insurance. :lol:


Paphitis, did you fry this engine? :lol:

FF4B6DCA-749E-4149-B1B7-0991BBD411D9.jpeg


That looks interesting. What incident was that out of curiosity?


It has been all over the news the last couple of days. United Boeing 777 after take off the engine goes to a complete meltdown. Plane landed safely, but a lot of engine fragments rained down near Denver airport. About 100 of these B-777 have been grounded worldwide with this type of engines.







Gosh! I haven’t seen any news really in a week or so. Just have had no time to watch even 5 minutes of tv,

Still haven’t seen the YouTubes you posted but will check it out a bit later.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:50 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, do you know what happened to the pilots you knew who had left their jobs in Australia and went to the USA on the same visa as yours a month or two ahead of your planned departure? Did they return back to Australia in the end since they would have been furloughed almost immediately around this time last year by the American airline companies they were meant to work for?


I know what happened to the ones I speak to. They have been stood down.

Not just them but thousands of pilots in general have been stood down although they are starting to redeploy them at least part time so they can at least have current crews.

I got a letter from them as well saying that my engagement with them will be postponed so affective lay stood down but have an active employment number.

US Immigration hasn’t cancelled my 3 year BISA which I thought they might do. Still in my passport and still active as far as the US is concerned.

All of us are facing stand downs as of next month, or the sack if you have pissed management off, or redundancies and par outs.


It the same world over with all the airlines, I’m afraid. Many employees collective bargainings between the Unions and the company will be cancelled and renegotiated. Next 4 years looks quite bleak for the aviation industry sorry to say.

I think your visa is good for 4 years and since you did not voluntarily withdrew your application, it may remain valid until then.


Yes well it looks like they have the upper hand for now but it’s a 2 edged sword as well as experienced pilots won’t sign their souls away. From the beginning of COVID till now, 8% have walked from the industry voluntarily. That will have a very bad impact for the airlines once COVID is over or the world gets on with COVID normal life where COVID is accepted just like the flu. In other words when we accept COVID isn’t going away and will remain with us like the common flu.

The global economy seems like it just wants to move forward.

If we go to a state of normalness with Covid, the industry will recover very quickly imho. Then the reverse is true. Chronic pilot shortage driving up salaries and conditions as the airlines compete for the remaining talent.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:54 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, do you know what happened to the pilots you knew who had left their jobs in Australia and went to the USA on the same visa as yours a month or two ahead of your planned departure? Did they return back to Australia in the end since they would have been furloughed almost immediately around this time last year by the American airline companies they were meant to work for?


I know what happened to the ones I speak to. They have been stood down.

Not just them but thousands of pilots in general have been stood down although they are starting to redeploy them at least part time so they can at least have current crews.

I got a letter from them as well saying that my engagement with them will be postponed so affective lay stood down but have an active employment number.

US Immigration hasn’t cancelled my 3 year BISA which I thought they might do. Still in my passport and still active as far as the US is concerned.

All of us are facing stand downs as of next month, or the sack if you have pissed management off, or redundancies and par outs.


It the same world over with all the airlines, I’m afraid. Many employees collective bargainings between the Unions and the company will be cancelled and renegotiated. Next 4 years looks quite bleak for the aviation industry sorry to say.

I think your visa is good for 4 years and since you did not voluntarily withdrew your application, it may remain valid until then.


Yes well it looks like they have the upper hand for now but it’s a 2 edged sword as well as experienced pilots won’t sign their souls away. From the beginning of COVID till now, 8% have walked from the industry voluntarily. That will have a very bad impact for the airlines once COVID is over or the world gets on with COVID normal life where COVID is accepted just like the flu. In other words when we accept COVID isn’t going away and will remain with us like the common flu.

The global economy seems like it just wants to move forward.

If we go to a state of normalness with Covid, the industry will recover very quickly imho. Then the reverse is true. Chronic pilot shortage driving up salaries and conditions as the airlines compete for the remaining talent.

I agree with you for the most part, but it all depends if there will be a demand from the public to return back to the air to the pre Covid days. Just like many businesses will continue having their employees working from home from now as it is beneficial for both the employees and the companies. No need to travel for 12 hours on a plane when meetings can be done on zoom.

More holidays at home with a car or camper. Easier on the body from jet lags, airport screening hassle and no allowance on to the planes for those refusing to vaccinate, but may fly if they do the Covid test for both directions at extra cost. Time will tell where we will end up as far as air travel will go.
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