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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby Paphitis » Mon May 03, 2021 3:45 pm

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Its funny how you also accused Akinci for being Erdogans poodle. You and Bafidi should keep out of the Cyprus Problem discussion as you ain't got a clue boy.

Now, fuck off and play with your toys.


Let's get this straight for a second. You expect we vote and sign over the control of part of our island to Turkey and expect you to be nice.

Sorry, but that aint gonna happen.


since when Australians have a say? :shock:

I'm such a troll :roll:


Yopu're welcome to have all the say you want.

I don't need to have a say. Just don't want to see Turkey's partitionist desires in Cyprus come to fruition.

BTW, I am a Cypriot citizen. But probably won't be allowed a say. I do however rely on voters in Cyprus doing the right thing to achieve the best outcome for Cyprus and I don't believe partition is the best outcome at all. If partition is legalized, Cypriots abroad will suffer that indignity as well, but you will not only suffer the indignity but have to face it daily. i am very lucky to not hve to face any such thing in Australia.
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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby Lordo » Mon May 03, 2021 10:35 pm

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Its funny how you also accused Akinci for being Erdogans poodle. You and Bafidi should keep out of the Cyprus Problem discussion as you ain't got a clue boy.

Now, fuck off and play with your toys.


Let's get this straight for a second. You expect we vote and sign over the control of part of our island to Turkey and expect you to be nice.

Sorry, but that aint gonna happen.


since when Australians have a say? :shock:

I'm such a troll :roll:


Yopu're welcome to have all the say you want.

I don't need to have a say. Just don't want to see Turkey's partitionist desires in Cyprus come to fruition.

BTW, I am a Cypriot citizen. But probably won't be allowed a say. I do however rely on voters in Cyprus doing the right thing to achieve the best outcome for Cyprus and I don't believe partition is the best outcome at all. If partition is legalized, Cypriots abroad will suffer that indignity as well, but you will not only suffer the indignity but have to face it daily. i am very lucky to not have to face any such thing in Australia.

Well we are almost there, Erdogan and Tatar has asked for partition and UN said they will think about the proposals. If the energy corporations can get their hands on the resources do they really give a shit whether Cyprus is united or divided.

So what's the plan now to to stop partition? Anything, or just sit on your hands and hope that it does not happen.

Erdogan is on war path. Don't say nobody has ever said it.
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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 am

Lordo wrote:You are a little confused. The plan is two federal states one for the TCs and one for the GCs. What have Greeks and Turks got to do with this.


...who within your constituency deserve recognition as a distinct identity; a Federation with who? Indeed the Problem is "Turkishness", now that "Greekness" has been relegated to History's dustbin.

...you are confused Lordo, why do you stumble into the "Turks'" talking points, "being" a Cypriot? Don't you recognise the difference between "Cypriot Turks", and Turkish Cypriots?

What, are you, because you cannot be both.

Indeed, i ask, what have "Greeks", and "Turks", got to do with it?
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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 04, 2021 1:28 am

Lordo wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Its funny how you also accused Akinci for being Erdogans poodle. You and Bafidi should keep out of the Cyprus Problem discussion as you ain't got a clue boy.

Now, fuck off and play with your toys.


Let's get this straight for a second. You expect we vote and sign over the control of part of our island to Turkey and expect you to be nice.

Sorry, but that aint gonna happen.


since when Australians have a say? :shock:

I'm such a troll :roll:


Yopu're welcome to have all the say you want.

I don't need to have a say. Just don't want to see Turkey's partitionist desires in Cyprus come to fruition.

BTW, I am a Cypriot citizen. But probably won't be allowed a say. I do however rely on voters in Cyprus doing the right thing to achieve the best outcome for Cyprus and I don't believe partition is the best outcome at all. If partition is legalized, Cypriots abroad will suffer that indignity as well, but you will not only suffer the indignity but have to face it daily. i am very lucky to not have to face any such thing in Australia.

Well we are almost there, Erdogan and Tatar has asked for partition and UN said they will think about the proposals. If the energy corporations can get their hands on the resources do they really give a shit whether Cyprus is united or divided.

So what's the plan now to to stop partition? Anything, or just sit on your hands and hope that it does not happen.

Erdogan is on war path. Don't say nobody has ever said it.


Sure! No worries. Good luck with that one.

Yes they do care and they are not going to be making such a precedence.
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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue May 04, 2021 1:38 am

...the plan to stop partition, is there staring at Erdogan straight in the face. He does not have much of a choice, in fact, if he is seeking a Legacy where his esteem extends Internationally, and if he wants the tarnish removed from Turkey's reputation.

He may have what he wants, even a Caliphate that has as its center, Istanbul. But this he must do for the Turkish People. "Turkishness" and its dogma somehow must fit in a world where its Universal Principals are embraced, rather than questioned, in affect excluded.

A Cyprus divided only invites, in Turkey, a Turkey divided; he must know this. And if Greece and Turkey find Peace in the Aegean, Peace in the Eastern Mediterranean would include Cyprus, too. Good news for Turkey if before their Centennial in two years that the Problem is solved. Without a small change in his intentions, nothing changes. Although he has demonstrated this capacity to change in the past.
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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby Maximus » Tue May 04, 2021 12:09 pm

Lordo wrote:Well we are almost there, Erdogan and Tatar has asked for partition and UN said they will think about the proposals. If the energy corporations can get their hands on the resources do they really give a shit whether Cyprus is united or divided.

So what's the plan now to to stop partition? Anything, or just sit on your hands and hope that it does not happen.

Erdogan is on war path. Don't say nobody has ever said it.


Its got nothing to do with the energy companies,

Has everything to do with the future of Cyprus and her citizens,

You will not get partition, who in their right mind is going to recognize you as a separate state? :roll:

despite pining over that for nearly 50 years and yet, you still do not understand what it means to be unrecognized.

adjective

1 . not identified from previous encounters or knowledge.
"she was able to wander about the village unrecognized"

2 . not acknowledged as valuable or valid.
"their contribution often goes unrecognized"

Basically, the world thinks you are scammers, crooks and frauds living in stolen property and land.

Everyone has been patient, hoping you come clean and resolve this problem amicably.
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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby Lordo » Tue May 04, 2021 1:33 pm

It is no longer like 1983 when they just declared UDI abd sat back on their backsides. Thye have for the first time asked the UN as we have not been able to come to an agreement, we wish to consider two state solution. Guterres has replied this is not in my mandate to change I need to consult the UN Security Council which he will do. If they say no now, all Erdogan has to dois just sit tight and pretty soon we will have no more TCs in Cyprus left and then TCs problems are over, they have gone and then you have a problem. You explain to Erdogan why he has to withdraw from Cyprus.

Your descendants will curse you for not using the time with Talat or Akinci to solve the problem when you had a chance.
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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby Maximus » Tue May 04, 2021 1:48 pm

You mean he will have to explain why Turkey should remain in Cyprus once the TC's have gone?
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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby Lordo » Tue May 04, 2021 2:14 pm

Maximus wrote:You mean he will have to explain why Turkey should remain in Cyprus once the TC's have gone?

Who would he have to explain it too? You really think there wil lbe anybody slightly interested by that time? BTW do they speak Turkish? Infact lets change that do they speak Ottoman? Erdogan only speaks ottoman.
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Re: What is a Federation?

Postby Maximus » Tue May 04, 2021 2:40 pm

Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:You mean he will have to explain why Turkey should remain in Cyprus once the TC's have gone?

Who would he have to explain it too? You really think there wil lbe anybody slightly interested by that time? BTW do they speak Turkish? Infact lets change that do they speak Ottoman? Erdogan only speaks ottoman.


By the time that day comes, Erdogan wont be president.

He will be long gone or, I think there will be some kind of revolution.
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